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Quoted: Anybody still arguing about keeping those docs posted here? FEDs Investigating Former Sailor Behind Pro-Russian ‘Donbass Devushka’ Accounts View Quote It was said she worked on those EA-18 Growlers (Airborne Electronic Attack Aircraft) |
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Quoted: What's interesting, he says the DOJ & FBI have access to that system. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: While I'm not saying anything about this situation, his resource saying how things happen hasn't been in the military for 20 years. What's interesting, he says the DOJ & FBI have access to that system. FBI has a counterintelligence division. |
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Quoted: That's from forever ago and not important now. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: As an aside, it was interesting to learn how many other Chinese spy balloons were being monitored these past couple of years. Leaked Pentagon docs show the shot-down Chinese spy balloon may have had a feature known as 'synthetic aperture radar' that can see through certain materials, WaPo reports Hannah Getahun Apr 16, 2023, 12:44 AM The shot-down Chinese spy balloon may have had synthetic aperture radar, the Washington Post reports. The technology has the ability to observe objects in the dark or through clouds. SAR is used around the world by organizations like NASA and the European Space Agency. In February, a high-altitude balloon with surveillance capabilities connected to China flew over the continental US before being shot down over the Atlantic. At the time, much about the balloon wasn't known publicly, but a new trove of Pentagon documents leaked on Discord show it — and up to four other previously unknown spy balloons like it — could have had a feature known as "synthetic aperture radar" that can see through certain objects, the Washington Post reported. Jack Teixeira, a 21-year-old US National Guard airman, was arrested Thursday in connection to the leaks. US intelligence agencies believed this because the balloon, which officials named Killeen-23 in an apparent reference to 1940s mobster Donald Killeen, was equipped with the ability to generate up to 10,000 watts of solar power — enough to power a typical home — which could support such abilities. "The amount of solar power generated by the panels on the Chinese stratospheric balloon that NSA named Killeen-23 is excessive for a weather balloon," the document reads. Synthetic aperture radar is the solution to the problem with real aperture radar, which cannot create high-resolution images without an impractically large antenna. SAR "synthesizes" a large antenna, but the concept is the same — it releases bursts of electromagnetic energy to an object on Earth, and a sensor then records the wavelength of energy it receives back, according to NASA. These sensor readings then allow the radar to create a reconstruction of whatever objects are below the energy beam. Because SAR isn't taking photos and is instead using electromagnetic data to create a high-resolution image, the technology can "see" in the dark, as well as through clouds, smoke, soil, and rain. It can also help with three-dimensional reconstructions, unlike cameras, which can only capture what is openly visible from above. The technology, invented in 1951, is used all over the world by science organizations like NASA and the European Space Agency to observe the earth's topography. It is also used in war to spy on adversaries. Recently, a Canadian satellite operator helped Ukraine by providing SAR imagery to officials. The imagery allowed Ukrainian officials to monitor Russian troop movements during inclement weather and cloudy days. The documents also reveal that certain functions of the balloons are still unknown to US intelligence, as certain sensors on the device are labeled as "unidentified" in photos. The Pentagon did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment. Discord Leaks Reveal Chinese Spy Balloons Are Named For Mob Bosses Matt Novak Contributor Apr 14, 2023,11:01pm EDT Whitey Bulger, Donald Killeen and Tony “Big Tuna” Accardo were all big names in organized crime during the 20th century. But they’re also the names given to Chinese spy balloons by U.S. intelligence, according to documents leaked on Discord over the past few months. The Washington Post has a fascinating new report about various Chinese spy balloons that U.S. authorities were tracking before the balloon that captured national attention back in February. The revelations are part of the documents allegedly leaked by a 21-year-old IT worker with the U.S. military on the messaging platform Discord. And while the presence of previously undisclosed spy balloons is certainly interesting in and of itself, the unique nature of the Discord leaks means we’re getting a peek behind the secretive curtain at U.S. intelligence agencies which includes details that would normally only be revealed decades later, if they were revealed at all. One Chinese spy balloon, dubbed the Bulger-21, was named for Whitey Bulger, the organized crime boss who evaded authorities for decades before being caught in 2011. Bulger died in prison in 2018. The Bulger-21 circled the globe from December 2021 until May 2022 and carried “sophisticated surveillance equipment,” according to the Washington Post. A leaked document about Bulger-21 includes a photograph taken by the spy balloon, though it’s not clear how U.S. intelligence obtained the image. The documents all originated with intelligence agencies that don’t get much attention in the press but are considered vital to U.S. military interests, like the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). Another Chinese balloon, called the Killeen-23 by U.S. intelligence agencies, was named for Donald Killeen, a South Boston crime boss who was murdered in 1972. Killeen-23 contained a “parabolic dish measuring 1.2 meters in diameter,” but its image collection capabilities were apparently still a mystery. Another spy balloon, Accardo-21, was named after Tony “Big Tuna” Accardo, a Chicago crime boss who died of old age in the early 1990s. The Accardo-21 reportedly carried a “foil-lined gimbaled” sensor, though the Post story doesn’t include enough contextual information to explain what that would be used for. Jack Teixeira, a member of the Massachusetts Air National Guard who held a Top Secret clearance, allegedly leaked these documents, among plenty of others, to a private server on Discord called Thug Shaker Central, starting late last year. Teixeira was arrested on Thursday and he’s been charged with improper handling and distribution of classified documents. While outlets like Bellingcat, the New York Times and the Washington Post broke the story of Teixeira’s Discord activity, he was reportedly tracked down by the FBI through billing information he gave to Discord. Maybe U.S. intelligence agencies will some day name a spy balloon for Teixeira. But for now, he’s going to be sitting in jail probably wishing things had turned out differently. That's from forever ago and not important now. 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Quoted: Precisely, why would this guy be allowed to retrieve and print Rus/Uke war briefing slides? I have no clue how the classified net works, but I do know most info storage and retrieval systems allow very granular security, where each object can have its own access control list. I hope that the US class'ed info sys is not secured with just 2 user groups, "secret" and "top secret" Even the "arrest" stinks. He's outside sitting, so no door kicking, no need for "body cam" footage. Everything can be seen by the pre-arranged media helo. A lot of this incident doesn't pass the sniff test. View Quote Its simple. He goes into the SKIF to fix a piece of equipment. Says he can't fix it in side the room. He needs to take it back to his maintenance shop to do the work. He is senior enough that people trust him. He fixes the equipment. Then start poking around to see what files are still on the computer/in memory/cached. He prints out the files he finds. He puts the equipment back where it goes. Then takes home the files he printed to show his friends what he gets to see at work. The simplest link in security to break is the human. We tend to get lazy and trust others. |
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Quoted: Its simple. He goes into the SKIF to fix a piece of equipment. Says he can't fix it in side the room. He needs to take it back to his maintenance shop to do the work. He is senior enough that people trust him. He fixes the equipment. Then start poking around to see what files are still on the computer/in memory/cached. He prints out the files he finds. He puts the equipment back where it goes. Then takes home the files he printed to show his friends what he gets to see at work. The simplest link in security to break is the human. We tend to get lazy and trust others. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Precisely, why would this guy be allowed to retrieve and print Rus/Uke war briefing slides? I have no clue how the classified net works, but I do know most info storage and retrieval systems allow very granular security, where each object can have its own access control list. I hope that the US class'ed info sys is not secured with just 2 user groups, "secret" and "top secret" Even the "arrest" stinks. He's outside sitting, so no door kicking, no need for "body cam" footage. Everything can be seen by the pre-arranged media helo. A lot of this incident doesn't pass the sniff test. Its simple. He goes into the SKIF to fix a piece of equipment. Says he can't fix it in side the room. He needs to take it back to his maintenance shop to do the work. He is senior enough that people trust him. He fixes the equipment. Then start poking around to see what files are still on the computer/in memory/cached. He prints out the files he finds. He puts the equipment back where it goes. Then takes home the files he printed to show his friends what he gets to see at work. The simplest link in security to break is the human. We tend to get lazy and trust others. It's SCIF, and no. |
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Quoted: Its simple. He goes into the SKIF to fix a piece of equipment. Says he can't fix it in side the room. He needs to take it back to his maintenance shop to do the work. He is senior enough that people trust him. He fixes the equipment. Then start poking around to see what files are still on the computer/in memory/cached. He prints out the files he finds. He puts the equipment back where it goes. Then takes home the files he printed to show his friends what he gets to see at work. The simplest link in security to break is the human. We tend to get lazy and trust others. View Quote More likely scenario: he had a network account and therefore an email account in order to do his job. Everyone in his unit got put on an email distro. He got emails with documents because he was on the distro. |
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Quoted: More likely scenario: he had a network account and therefore an email account in order to do his job. Everyone in his unit got put on an email distro. He got emails with documents because he was on the distro. View Quote Data spills occasionally take place in that manner, but it is very rare, at least in my fifteen years at DIA. When one is identified there is a whole lotta double-deleting and verification that goes on, along with additional training concluding with the "go and sin no more speech". It will be interesting to learn how a low-level sys admin type managed to access CIA assessments. My beloved former colleagues at Langley really don't play in the JWICS arena, particularly with their own operations and assessments. |
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Quoted: More likely scenario: he had a network account and therefore an email account in order to do his job. Everyone in his unit got put on an email distro. He got emails with documents because he was on the distro. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Its simple. He goes into the SKIF to fix a piece of equipment. Says he can't fix it in side the room. He needs to take it back to his maintenance shop to do the work. He is senior enough that people trust him. He fixes the equipment. Then start poking around to see what files are still on the computer/in memory/cached. He prints out the files he finds. He puts the equipment back where it goes. Then takes home the files he printed to show his friends what he gets to see at work. The simplest link in security to break is the human. We tend to get lazy and trust others. More likely scenario: he had a network account and therefore an email account in order to do his job. Everyone in his unit got put on an email distro. He got emails with documents because he was on the distro. An account with "web" access. I read he searched Intellipedia/Intelink. |
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Quoted: Being absurd is not exactly the best reaction to this. A stupid 21 year old leaked national secrets and people here are like “not guilty”. Send him to prison for life. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Is Russia in the room right now? Being absurd is not exactly the best reaction to this. A stupid 21 year old leaked national secrets and people here are like “not guilty”. Send him to prison for life. Are you a witness to the alleged crime? Or just unsure of how the whole "due process" thing works because the signal was jammed by righteous indignation and a willingness to believe the MSM narrative? |
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https://nypost.com/2023/04/19/jack-teixeiras-hearing-postponed-in-classified-docs-leak-case/
No hearing held today. Defense wanted 2 weeks to I guess figure out how argue why he shouldn't be held awaiting/during trial, so he'll stay detained until the detention hearing. Also, this is rich, the SSCI (Senate Subcommittee on Intelligence) is now demanding copies of all classified docs leaked by Texeira: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-intelligence-committee-classified-pentagon-documents Remember, the current chairman, mark warner, practically orchestrated the leak of Carter Page's FISA to Ali Watkins (who leveraged it for a job at the ny slimes), through his underling, James Wolfe in 2017. They requested a copy to read and return, and the FBI put in leak tracers (dates tweaked) into the copy given to warner. That is how Wolfe was caught, as the "news stories" coming out had the tweaked dates, and tracked it back the SSCI copy, which pointed to Watkins and Wolfe. Back in 2017, it was considered a "spill" to discuss FISA processes, procedures or the FISA court itself. |
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Quoted: https://nypost.com/2023/04/19/jack-teixeiras-hearing-postponed-in-classified-docs-leak-case/ No hearing held today. Defense wanted 2 weeks to I guess figure out how argue why he shouldn't be held awaiting/during trial, so he'll stay detained until the detention hearing. Also, this is rich, the SSCI (Senate Subcommittee on Intelligence) is now demanding copies of all classified docs leaked by Texeira: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-intelligence-committee-classified-pentagon-documents Remember, the current chairman, mark warner, practically orchestrated the leak of Carter Page's FISA to Ali Watkins (who leveraged it for a job at the ny slimes), through his underling, James Wolfe in 2017. They requested a copy to read and return, and the FBI put in leak tracers (dates tweaked) into the copy given to warner. That is how Wolfe was caught, as the "news stories" coming out had the tweaked dates, and tracked it back the SSCI copy, which pointed to Watkins and Wolfe. Back in 2017, it was considered a "spill" to discuss FISA processes, procedures or the FISA court itself. View Quote Well, Senate has to go through the same classification backgrounds and life history before they can even peek at it. I'd like to see the official version side by side with the classified version and see which bits were ignored or ... modified with commentary or updates of other kinds. |
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FBI closes in on TWO DOZEN gamers in Pentagon leaker's Discord group chat - including RUSSIANS - as it emerges airman, 21, 'had been sharing files since Ukraine War started'
The FBI is closing in on over two dozen potential suspects who were involved in Jack Teixeira's Discord page, where he allegedly leaked security secrets. It comes as it was revealed Teixeira, the US Air National Guardsman accused of leaking classified documents to a small group of gamers, had been posting sensitive information months earlier than previously known and to a much larger chat group. In February 2022, soon after the invasion of Ukraine, a user profile matching that of Airman Jack Teixeira began posting secret intelligence on the Russian war effort. Teixeira was using a previously undisclosed chat group on social platform Discord, the newspaper reported, adding the group had about 600 members, according to the New York Times, citing online postings reviewed by the newspaper. The FBI has been interviewing friends of Teixeira from the infamously named 'Thug Shaker Central' Discord service. They've been asked how they were introduced to Teixeira, what kind of games they were playing and if they are foreign nationals. Those who hung out on the Discord had previously said that some of the two dozen or so members were from Russia, Ukraine, mainland Europe, Asia and South America, according to the Washington Post. At least one former member has had their electronic devices seized by the FBI but it's not clear if the FBI has confirmed foreign nationals were on the server. Teixeira, 21, had been scheduled for a detention hearing in Boston's federal court, but the judge canceled it after Teixeira's lawyer filed a motion requesting that it be delayed for about two weeks. The defense said it 'requires more time to address the issues presented by the government´s request for detention.' A new date has not yet been set. On Wednesday morning, Teixeira was brought to the courtroom in handcuffs and orange jail garb as he waived his right to a preliminary hearing. He said nothing beyond answering yes and no to questions about whether he understood his rights and the proceeding. Teixeira was charged last week under the Espionage Act with unauthorized retention and transmission of classified national defense information. During his first court appearance last Friday, a magistrate judge ordered him to remain in custody until his detention hearing. Continued |
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looks like Texeira will be remain in custody until trial:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12022025/Pentagon-leaker-Jack-Teixeira-plotted-kill-ton-people.html by the way, shouldn't the fbi people who conducted illegal searches under FISA be charged and prosecuted (maybe hanged as some have suggested here for Texeira) as well? didn't see some of the folks posting in this thread in the thread on Matt Gaetz's tweet about it. |
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Quoted: Are you saying texeira was framed? Well, okay View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Are you a witness to the alleged crime? Or just unsure of how the whole "due process" thing works because the signal was jammed by righteous indignation and a willingness to believe the MSM narrative? Are you saying texeira was framed? Well, okay Seems "Innocent until proven guilty" is lost on many. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Beyond question isn't how innocent until proven guilty works... you see there's the question of proof in a court of law... of guilt. Was he setup or not? Also, he’ll have his day in court and due process. We are welcome to reach our own opinions based on the information available. |
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Quoted: Innocent until guilty? Sure. But he did it. That’s beyond question now. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Seems "Innocent until proven guilty" is lost on many. Innocent until guilty? Sure. But he did it. That’s beyond question now. How is it beyond question? Same way it was beyond question that Trump never had is Phone tapped or that Trump was a puppet of Russia? Those sort of "Beyond question" statements? Who is controlling the information and why are only certain people ever subject to prosecution? Really really easy to frame somebody these days, but there could be his ideological opposite doing the exact same thing and nobody says boo. Not saying he was framed, but this isn't the typical cycle of information we learn, sort of put together as a package and ignored. |
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This is going to sound bad, but
This world is so messed up to me that if it turned out this kid was actually made up out of whole cloth and used to leak disinfo to the enemy, replete with faux family, it would not surprise me one iota. |
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Quoted: This is going to sound bad, but This world is so messed up to me that if it turned out this kid was actually made up out of whole cloth and used to leak disinfo to the enemy, replete with faux family, it would not surprise me one iota. View Quote South Park - George Bush Didn't Do 9/11 |
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Quoted: How is it beyond question? Same way it was beyond question that Trump never had is Phone tapped or that Trump was a puppet of Russia? Those sort of "Beyond question" statements? Who is controlling the information and why are only certain people ever subject to prosecution? Really really easy to frame somebody these days, but there could be his ideological opposite doing the exact same thing and nobody says boo. Not saying he was framed, but this isn't the typical cycle of information we learn, sort of put together as a package and ignored. View Quote There is nobody named Jack Douglass Texeira You're supporting a ghost. You've been caught in the psyop Because not everyone gets prosecuted means nobody can be prosecuted. |
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Quoted: There is nobody named Jack Douglass Texeira You're supporting a ghost. You've been caught in the psyop Because not everyone gets prosecuted means nobody can be prosecuted. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How is it beyond question? Same way it was beyond question that Trump never had is Phone tapped or that Trump was a puppet of Russia? Those sort of "Beyond question" statements? Who is controlling the information and why are only certain people ever subject to prosecution? Really really easy to frame somebody these days, but there could be his ideological opposite doing the exact same thing and nobody says boo. Not saying he was framed, but this isn't the typical cycle of information we learn, sort of put together as a package and ignored. There is nobody named Jack Douglass Texeira You're supporting a ghost. You've been caught in the psyop Because not everyone gets prosecuted means nobody can be prosecuted. A coworker was in a class with a guy from his unit when he hit the news. The conspiracy runs deep. |
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Quoted: Stop falling for the psyop. It's all deep fakes. Nothing is real. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: A coworker was in a class with a guy from his unit when he hit the news. The conspiracy runs deep. Stop falling for the psyop. It's all deep fakes. Nothing is real. I don't even believe Massachusetts exists. Sounds like a made up name and their flag is too out there to be real. |
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