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5/16/2004 12:26:26 AM EDT



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"Starry Night," Vincent van Gogh's famous painting, is renowned for its bold whorls of light sweeping across a raging night sky. Although this image of the heavens came only from the artist's restless imagination, a new picture from NASA's Hubble Space Telescope bears remarkable similarities to the van Gogh work, complete with never-before-seen spirals of dust swirling across trillions of miles of interstellar space.

This image, obtained with the Advanced Camera for Surveys on February 8, 2004, is Hubble's latest view of an expanding halo of light around a distant star, named V838 Monocerotis (V838 Mon). The illumination of interstellar dust comes from the red supergiant star at the middle of the image, which gave off a flashbulb-like pulse of light two years ago. V838 Mon is located about 20,000 light-years away from Earth in the direction of the constellation Monoceros, placing the star at the outer edge of our Milky Way galaxy.

Called a light echo, the expanding illumination of a dusty cloud around the star has been revealing remarkable structures ever since the star suddenly brightened for several weeks in early 2002. Though Hubble has followed the light echo in several snapshots, this new image shows swirls or eddies in the dusty cloud for the first time. These eddies are probably caused by turbulence in the dust and gas around the star as they slowly expand away. The dust and gas were likely ejected from the star in a previous explosion, similar to the 2002 event, which occurred some tens of thousands of years ago. The surrounding dust remained invisible and unsuspected until suddenly illuminated by the brilliant explosion of the central star two years ago.

The Hubble telescope has imaged V838 Mon and its light echo several times since the star's outburst in January 2002, in order to follow the constantly changing appearance of the dust as the pulse of illumination continues to expand away from the star at the speed of light. During the outburst event, the normally faint star suddenly brightened, becoming 600,000 times more luminous than our Sun. It was thus one of the brightest stars in the entire Milky Way, until it faded away again in April 2002. The star has some similarities to a class of objects called "novae," which suddenly increase in brightness due to thermonuclear explosions at their surfaces; however, the detailed behavior of V838 Mon, in particular its extremely red color, has been completely different from any previously known nova.

Nature's own piece of performance art, this structure will continue to change its appearance in coming years as the light from the stellar outburst continues to propagate outward and bounce off more distant black clouds of dust. Astronomers expect the echoes to remain visible for at least the rest of the current decade.


5/16/2004 12:36:25 AM EDT
[#1]
And people wonder why I'm a Christian.






dang spelling/dislexia/thinking faster than I Type  : edited
5/16/2004 12:43:38 AM EDT
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And people why I'm a Christain.



Come again?
5/16/2004 12:47:03 AM EDT
[#3]
I look at that picture and wonder about how asume God is for creating such a beautiful universe for us to live in.
5/16/2004 12:47:47 AM EDT
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And people why I'm a Christian.




EGGS ACT LY!!!!!!

I can't make that!

Sgtar15
5/16/2004 12:55:42 AM EDT
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And people wonder why I'm a Christian.






dang spelling/dislexia/thinking faster than I Type  : edited



thats all i was pointing out.

i also agree with the original message.
5/16/2004 1:01:55 AM EDT
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I look at that and think, damn, the big bang gave us some major gas, and stars too.
5/16/2004 1:05:50 AM EDT
[#7]
LOL
5/16/2004 1:18:33 AM EDT
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I look at that picture and wonder about how asume God is for creating such a beautiful universe for us to live in.



do you think that  the whole universe in all its splendor and magnificence is there for just us on this rock? or do you think he created more worlds like ours?

in otherwords, are we alone in this vast  void of space?
5/16/2004 4:39:36 AM EDT
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in otherwords, are we alone in this vast  void of space?



Yup, nobody else out there.
5/16/2004 5:22:12 AM EDT
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I look at that picture and wonder about how asume God is for creating such a beautiful universe for us to live in.



And how is they guy "who really made the universe" supposed to feel if everyone keeps thanking GOD?
I mean come one, why does God have to create everything?  Maybe he started it or created a small part....

Look at it this way - he did not create YOU or your works (ie: your posts)
5/16/2004 5:57:44 AM EDT
[#11]
That photo vaguely reminds me of BenDover's current avatar.


As for the other comments...if you think this whole universe has nobody in it but us,  I'd have to ask you what life's like in medieval times as apparently you're stuck in primitive thinking mode.

Our one galaxy contains more than 300 BILLION stars.   If just one in a thousand of them had planets, that'd be 300 million such stars with planets.   If just one in a thousand of them had planets capable of sustaining life as we know it,  that'd be 300,000 such stars.   Out of 300,000 stars with habitable planets,  it's a sure bet that some harbor life we'd understand and some of it is no doubt intellligent, and some may considerably more advanced than we are.

Those numbers are ludicrously conservative, too.

I'm certain of this:  God does not waste space.   And we're by no means the only science project in the universe or even in this galaxy.


I'd be deeply disappointed if I were to receive proof that there's nobody else out there.   What a shame and a waste that would be.

I KNOW there are a lot of intelligent, spacefaring races out there.   And I'm sure we've been contacted by some of them on an exploratory basis.    When they judge us to be READY to join their community,  they'll reveal themselves to us on a large scale and we'll enter a larger community than our own solar system.

I don't think it's on the scale of the Empire of Star Wars,  but I'm sure intelligent spacefaring life is common if not abundant.

There ARE no limits.

CJ
5/16/2004 7:10:38 AM EDT
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Our one galaxy contains more than 300 BILLION stars.   If just one in a thousand of them had planets, that'd be 300 million such stars with planets.   If just one in a thousand of them had planets capable of sustaining life as we know it,  that'd be 300,000 such stars.   Out of 300,000 stars with habitable planets,  it's a sure bet that some harbor life we'd understand and some of it is no doubt intellligent, and some may considerably more advanced than we are.

Those numbers are ludicrously conservative, too.



This is a simple version of the Drake Equation, and there is a lot of controversy as to whether extraterrestrial life is probable or not.  I do not agree that the probabilities you give above are obviously conservative.  Nobody has yet to present a robust argument for the probability or improbability of ET life.  Think of the countless ways that you can create a planet that does not support life.  This is the old dilemma of multiplying a "really big" number (the number of stars) by a "really small" number (the probability of an inhabited planet around a star).  An optimist says the former dominates and the product is >>1; the pessimist says the latter dominates and the product is <<1.



I'm certain of this:  God does not waste space.   And we're by no means the only science project in the universe or even in this galaxy.

I'd be deeply disappointed if I were to receive proof that there's nobody else out there.   What a shame and a waste that would be.



OTOH, think about what a display of love that would be.  The whole universe, just for us.  Pretty awesome.

The scriptures are silent on the matter, which doesn't mean much.  God didn't tell us about DNA or Digital Watches, either, but they exist.  If He said "you are the only inhabited planet in the Universe", it would be different.  As it stands, I would not be surprised if we find ET life.  I don't think I'd be horribly surprised either way, actually.  It's an awesome creation.
5/16/2004 8:03:36 AM EDT
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I'd be deeply disappointed if I were to receive proof that there's nobody else out there.

I can't conceive of any kind of "proof" that there is no other life out there.

5/16/2004 8:14:36 AM EDT
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I look at that picture and wonder about how asume God is for creating such a beautiful universe for us to live in.



do you think that  the whole universe in all its splendor and magnificence is there for just us on this rock? or do you think he created more worlds like ours?

in otherwords, are we alone in this vast  void of space?



Greetings earthling youy will be destroyed!
5/16/2004 8:16:31 AM EDT
[#15]
You are the people that still think we landed on the moon of corse there are aliens out there and im not talken about the mexicans
5/16/2004 8:35:00 AM EDT
[#16]
If it was shaved and it's knees were together ....I'd hit it.

WOW look at the sparklies, never seen one like that before,  glitter doesn't count.
5/16/2004 8:35:42 AM EDT
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You are the people that still think we landed on the moon of corse there are aliens out there and im not talken about the mexicans



LOL!
5/16/2004 8:44:36 AM EDT
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Either the Hand of God or pictures from my last colonoscopy.
5/16/2004 8:46:55 AM EDT
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Some of you guys are some sick motherfuckers.

Hate to see you take a Rorschach test.
5/16/2004 9:09:37 AM EDT
[#20]
I signed up for that Rorchch Test once....They kicked me out of the class.




5/16/2004 9:11:50 AM EDT
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Some of you guys are some sick motherfuckers.

Hate to see you take a Rorschach test.


(buschemi mode on) " and this one looks like you, with breasts" (buschemi mode off)
5/16/2004 9:12:44 AM EDT
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And people wonder why I'm a Christian



The universe and its creator, if it has one, are infinitely more complex than our attemps to define them.
5/16/2004 9:16:47 AM EDT
[#23]
Sure, there are many others in the universe besides you. That's why I was sent to this planet, to keep an eye on tequilabob.
5/16/2004 9:24:39 AM EDT
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Some of you guys are some sick motherfuckers.

Hate to see you take a Rorschach test.




I took the test and I'm OK.

www.stupidstuff.org/main/rorschach.htm



Compared against a baseline index of approximately 5,000 'standard' responses, your responses indicate the following:
Diagnostic Overview:

Because you're a whacko (sorry, the test never lies), you should be kept away from sharp objects and medicated on a regular, forced, basis. Stay indoors to reduce your exposure to Zeta-Rays from Planet Zarkon, and accept yourself to the fact that your "friends" think you're a jerk. People who answer as you did usually can't pour water out of a boot, with the instructions written on the heel.

Long-Term Prognosis:

You can be cured, but only if you stop watching The Jerry Springer Show. Meditate deeply, become aware of who you are and your place in the world. Find inner peace and become content to master yourself. Or forget all that crap and go have a beer- it's cheaper and faster. You also hate your brothers and sisters because of childhood traumas (unless you don't have any brothers or sisters, in which case, you hate someone else).  

5/16/2004 9:29:57 AM EDT
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Quoted:
I look at that picture and wonder about how asume God is for creating such a beautiful universe for us to live in.



do you think that  the whole universe in all its splendor and magnificence is there for just us on this rock? or do you think he created more worlds like ours?

in otherwords, are we alone in this vast  void of space?



Mathamatical odds tell me there must be life out there.

SGtar15
5/16/2004 9:49:40 AM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I look at that picture and wonder about how asume God is for creating such a beautiful universe for us to live in.



do you think that  the whole universe in all its splendor and magnificence is there for just us on this rock? or do you think he created more worlds like ours?

in otherwords, are we alone in this vast  void of space?



Mathamatical odds tell me there must be life out there.

SGtar15



thats what i thought about my ex being intelligent too, man was i wrong

edited ok i took the test, but this is normal in my circle



Compared against a baseline index of approximately 5,000 'standard' responses, your responses indicate the following:

Diagnostic Overview:

Your responses indicate you've gone off your medication, and are probably breaking parole right now. Stay away from schoolyards and daycare centers; that's the first place they'll look for you. You also wear a lot of black clothing because the voices tell you to, right? People who answer as you did usually hog the remote control.

Long-Term Prognosis:

Despite your condition and its behavioral limitations, remember you can always find work as a drug-dealer or prositute if you really try. Chances are you're a Libra, like most hopeless souls. (That doesn't really mean anything, but we just figured we'd mention it.) Strangely enough, you don't hate your mother and father, but you do hate your grandmother and grandfather. Who knows what in the world that means.  

5/16/2004 10:23:18 AM EDT
[#27]
Diagnostic Overview:

Your responses indicate that you're seriously demented, and a definite danger to yourself and others. You ought to be in lockup, in solitary confinement because of your sick ideas and mental problems. One of your biggest problems is that you don't think there's anything wrong with you. People who answer as you did often clip their nails obsessively.

Long-Term Prognosis:

You will need intensive psychological care for the rest of your life because of the factors described above. Stay away from other people if at all possible; just use the internet. Don't go outdoors or you're doomed. You are deeply scared of anything dangerous, violent, or threatening, which actually makes perfect sense, now that we think about it.  
5/16/2004 10:57:31 AM EDT
[#28]
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5/16/2004 10:58:51 AM EDT
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Diagnostic Overview:

Your responses indicate you're probably wearing leather undies right now, and maybe something that buzzes. ( so I just got though reading the post about the girl of the day with all the pics)That's really far ou-, err, I mean, that's bad, very bad. This kind of thing is starting to make you awkward and uncomfortable with normal, healthy human interaction. (Not that you give a damn, you pervert.) People who answer as you did usually hog the remote control.

Long-Term Prognosis:

Because of your impairments, your life is destined to be one long train-wreck. A lobotomy might possibly give you a better outlook and more insight into your own behavior. It would also keep you off the damn streets, which everyone agrees would be a good thing. PS- You don't hate your mother and father; you only think you do. Isn't that weird?  
Damn this test is right on. Thats the same thing my shrink said.
5/16/2004 2:16:18 PM EDT
[#30]
Diagnostic Overview:

Your responses indicate that you are almost certain to die in a whorehouse, but not as a customer. Your self-destructive impulses can be put to good use and channeled creatively, but that'll never happen. You also watch too much Oprah. People who answer as you did are usually paint-sniffers or Republicans.

Long-Term Prognosis:

Your obsession with watching Oprah and Judge Judy are indicative of a deeper pathology, one that would require a dedicated team of psychotherapists to unravel. Forget it; you aren't going to live long enough to reap the benefits of therapy. Consider donating your body to Science, or maybe even paying them to take it.  



I am a Repeblican.  I don't watch Oprah or Judge Judy.


I don;t think there is inteligent Life out there.  Things like plants and animal sure but not inteligent.  How ever as the bible does not say one way or the other I think that if there are then the UFOs people keep seeing is God bringing them here to show them what not to do.  I would not be surpised either way.  If there's no one else what increadable Love.  If there is others what increadable LOVE.
5/16/2004 2:32:53 PM EDT
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And people wonder why I'm a Christian.



Couldn't have said it better myself.