[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Light Speed Travel (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 10/14/2014 11:12:19 PM EDT
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I have read online that it is possible and then other articles online saying it is not... Something about we can develop a warp drive that creates a bubble or what not?
Can this happen? And do you think it would happen in our life time? The ability to travel 4 or 5 light years in 2 weeks... Any estimate when this could happen? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years etc...? If you can provide references too that would b great. I like reading. |
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I have read online that it is possible and then other articles online saying it is not... Something about we can develop a warp drive that creates a bubble or what not? Can this happen? And do you think it would happen in our life time? The ability to travel 4 or 5 light years in 2 weeks... Any estimate when this could happen? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years etc...? If you can provide references too that would b great. I like reading. IMO if we don't figure out how to do it... as a species we're fucked. We're fucked anyway but warp drive would allow us to fuck other planets up as well. Spreading the fucked = success I guess... Scientific American has had several interesting articles. Everything is theoretical. |
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I have read online that it is possible and then other articles online saying it is not... Something about we can develop a warp drive that creates a bubble or what not? Can this happen? And do you think it would happen in our life time? The ability to travel 4 or 5 light years in 2 weeks... Any estimate when this could happen? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years etc...? If you can provide references too that would b great. I like reading. In theory, yeah. Current ideas would require turning a mass the size of Jupiter into pure energy, but they're working on making it more efficient. |
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Quoted: IMO if we don't figure out how to do it... as a species we're fucked. We're fucked anyway but warp drive would allow us to fuck other planets up as well. Spreading the fucked = success I guess... Scientific American has had several interesting articles. Everything is theoretical. Quoted: Quoted: I have read online that it is possible and then other articles online saying it is not... Something about we can develop a warp drive that creates a bubble or what not? Can this happen? And do you think it would happen in our life time? The ability to travel 4 or 5 light years in 2 weeks... Any estimate when this could happen? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years etc...? If you can provide references too that would b great. I like reading. IMO if we don't figure out how to do it... as a species we're fucked. We're fucked anyway but warp drive would allow us to fuck other planets up as well. Spreading the fucked = success I guess... Scientific American has had several interesting articles. Everything is theoretical. We're fucked no matter what. Eventually the universe will die, so in order to continue, we'll even have to figure how to travel to other universes. But then, humans won't even be humans anywhere near that time, we might even have made ourselves into a machine race looong before. |
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With nothing other than layman knowledge of the subject, I feel it's safe to say we'll never see it in our lifetime.
ETA: Unless, of course, this bird traveled to the end of the galaxy and back over the last 22 days... http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/10/14/356123073/secret-u-s-space-plane-to-land-after-22-months-in-orbit?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=science |
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I have read online that it is possible and then other articles online saying it is not... Something about we can develop a warp drive that creates a bubble or what not? Can this happen? And do you think it would happen in our life time? The ability to travel 4 or 5 light years in 2 weeks... Any estimate when this could happen? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years etc...? If you can provide references too that would b great. I like reading. It is technically possible... Well, perhaps not specifically called impossible by relativity. What you are looking for is the albecurrie drive. Einstein's famous equation prevents you from jumping into a ship and blasting off to the speed of light because as speed increases, so does mass to the point that it would take infinite energy to propel infinite mass the speed of light. Where the Albecurrie drive comes in is that relativity does not prevent spacetime from being moved at any speed. Create a piece of spacetime that is moving and put your ship in that, technically your ship isn't moving, the area around it is, which also cancels out the negative aspects of time dilation. The problem with this is attaining the energy and mass necessary to move space like that. Also, at lightspeed, your travel time, from your point of view, is instantaneous to all points in the universe. As time diliative effects increase exponentially the closer to the speed of light you get, eventually, just as mass becomes infinite, so does time dilation, for you. Example: you and I are going to head to that banging strip club on Proxima Centauri b and set off at the speed of light. We trash that fucking place, and spend two hours doing so, then come back, again at the speed of light. We have aged two hours that we spend turning a strip club upside down. To everyone else, we were gone for 8.4 years. |
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It is technically possible... Well, perhaps not specifically called impossible by relativity. What you are looking for is the albecurrie drive. Einstein's famous equation prevents you from jumping into a ship and blasting off to the speed of light because as speed increases, so does mass to the point that it would take infinite energy to propel infinite mass the speed of light. Where the Albecurrie drive comes in is that relativity does not prevent spacetime from being moved at any speed. Create a piece of spacetime that is moving and put your ship in that, technically your ship isn't moving, the area around it is, which also cancels out the negative aspects of time dilation. The problem with this is attaining the energy and mass necessary to move space like that. Also, at lightspeed, your travel time, from your point of view, is instantaneous to all points in the universe. As time diliative effects increase exponentially the closer to the speed of light you get, eventually, just as mass becomes infinite, so does time dilation, for you. Example: you and I are going to head to that banging strip club on Proxima Centauri b and set off at the speed of light. We trash that fucking place, and spend two hours doing so, then come back, again at the speed of light. We have aged two hours that we spend turning a strip club upside down. To everyone else, we were gone for 8.4 years. Quoted:
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I have read online that it is possible and then other articles online saying it is not... Something about we can develop a warp drive that creates a bubble or what not? Can this happen? And do you think it would happen in our life time? The ability to travel 4 or 5 light years in 2 weeks... Any estimate when this could happen? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years etc...? If you can provide references too that would b great. I like reading. It is technically possible... Well, perhaps not specifically called impossible by relativity. What you are looking for is the albecurrie drive. Einstein's famous equation prevents you from jumping into a ship and blasting off to the speed of light because as speed increases, so does mass to the point that it would take infinite energy to propel infinite mass the speed of light. Where the Albecurrie drive comes in is that relativity does not prevent spacetime from being moved at any speed. Create a piece of spacetime that is moving and put your ship in that, technically your ship isn't moving, the area around it is, which also cancels out the negative aspects of time dilation. The problem with this is attaining the energy and mass necessary to move space like that. Also, at lightspeed, your travel time, from your point of view, is instantaneous to all points in the universe. As time diliative effects increase exponentially the closer to the speed of light you get, eventually, just as mass becomes infinite, so does time dilation, for you. Example: you and I are going to head to that banging strip club on Proxima Centauri b and set off at the speed of light. We trash that fucking place, and spend two hours doing so, then come back, again at the speed of light. We have aged two hours that we spend turning a strip club upside down. To everyone else, we were gone for 8.4 years. That means the statute of limitations expired. Sign me up. |
| The ability to travel at light speed is irrelevant in terms of cosmic scale. The universe is so massive that even if we traveled at the speed of light it would still take an impossible amount of time to get anywhere useful. We would also need to come up with a way to essentially hibernate on the journey or better yet the ability to jump to any given point in the universe instantaneously. |
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You cannot travel at the speed of light. It takes an enormous amount of energy that we have no idea how to harness You'll never travel to the moon..... You'll always have to sit at the kitchen table to call your friends on the phone..... Man will never be able to fly..... etc.... Look at how far the human race has come in the last 1000, 500, 200 years. Imagine where we will be in another couple hundred years. If we don't manage to kill ourselves off first, there is potentially no limit to what could happen. |
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The ability to travel at light speed is irrelevant in terms of cosmic scale. The universe is so massive that even if we traveled at the speed of light it would still take an impossible amount of time to get anywhere useful. We would also need to come up with a way to essentially hibernate on the journey or better yet the ability to jump to any given point in the universe instantaneously. Who says that the speed of light is the limit. Once we figure out how to do it, What is to prevent us from being able to travel 1,000,000 times the speed of light. With our current understanding of the universe and physics it isn't necessarily possible, but things change. The next Einstein might be able to figure it out |
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It is technically possible... Well, perhaps not specifically called impossible by relativity. What you are looking for is the albecurrie drive. Einstein's famous equation prevents you from jumping into a ship and blasting off to the speed of light because as speed increases, so does mass to the point that it would take infinite energy to propel infinite mass the speed of light. Where the Albecurrie drive comes in is that relativity does not prevent spacetime from being moved at any speed. Create a piece of spacetime that is moving and put your ship in that, technically your ship isn't moving, the area around it is, which also cancels out the negative aspects of time dilation. The problem with this is attaining the energy and mass necessary to move space like that. Also, at lightspeed, your travel time, from your point of view, is instantaneous to all points in the universe. As time diliative effects increase exponentially the closer to the speed of light you get, eventually, just as mass becomes infinite, so does time dilation, for you. Example: you and I are going to head to that banging strip club on Proxima Centauri b and set off at the speed of light. We trash that fucking place, and spend two hours doing so, then come back, again at the speed of light. We have aged two hours that we spend turning a strip club upside down. To everyone else, we were gone for 8.4 years. Quoted:
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I have read online that it is possible and then other articles online saying it is not... Something about we can develop a warp drive that creates a bubble or what not? Can this happen? And do you think it would happen in our life time? The ability to travel 4 or 5 light years in 2 weeks... Any estimate when this could happen? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years etc...? If you can provide references too that would b great. I like reading. It is technically possible... Well, perhaps not specifically called impossible by relativity. What you are looking for is the albecurrie drive. Einstein's famous equation prevents you from jumping into a ship and blasting off to the speed of light because as speed increases, so does mass to the point that it would take infinite energy to propel infinite mass the speed of light. Where the Albecurrie drive comes in is that relativity does not prevent spacetime from being moved at any speed. Create a piece of spacetime that is moving and put your ship in that, technically your ship isn't moving, the area around it is, which also cancels out the negative aspects of time dilation. The problem with this is attaining the energy and mass necessary to move space like that. Also, at lightspeed, your travel time, from your point of view, is instantaneous to all points in the universe. As time diliative effects increase exponentially the closer to the speed of light you get, eventually, just as mass becomes infinite, so does time dilation, for you. Example: you and I are going to head to that banging strip club on Proxima Centauri b and set off at the speed of light. We trash that fucking place, and spend two hours doing so, then come back, again at the speed of light. We have aged two hours that we spend turning a strip club upside down. To everyone else, we were gone for 8.4 years. I keep reading about the time piece, and I can't wrap my head around it. If you move matter to create less friction you are just moving really fast. The difference is how fast I move from A to B. I just can't fathom how the heck these theories propose you age a matter of hours while the world sees years. Your physical senescence does not stop just because you move really fast, body processes continue. |
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Even at the speed of light it would still take time longer than our lifespans to get anywhere Which is why we should be looking at Holtzman drives so that we can drop a tab of spice and fold space. We're still in the infancy of our knowledge of physics; it's way too early in our knowledge-base to be making proclamations that something can't be done. |
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The ability to travel at light speed is irrelevant in terms of cosmic scale. The universe is so massive that even if we traveled at the speed of light it would still take an impossible amount of time to get anywhere useful. We would also need to come up with a way to essentially hibernate on the journey or better yet the ability to jump to any given point in the universe instantaneously. This ^ Wormholes would be a better option for space travel. |
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The ability to travel at light speed is irrelevant in terms of cosmic scale. The universe is so massive that even if we traveled at the speed of light it would still take an impossible amount of time to get anywhere useful. We would also need to come up with a way to essentially hibernate on the journey or better yet the ability to jump to any given point in the universe instantaneously. This is incorrect. |
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To travel useful distances cosmically, we need to travel much faster than light, or fold/ bend space/time, which is theoretically possible if you control enough energy, which we currently don't.
Einstien's theories have been tested and found accurate, time dilation was tested by placing an atomic clock on rockets, and the bending of space time was recently proved during a solar eclipse by measuring starlight bending around the mass of the sun. The Movie "Intersteller" is coming out November 7, it is supposed to portray travel though a wormhole in a theoretically accurate way. |
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Quoted: I have read online that it is possible and then other articles online saying it is not... Something about we can develop a warp drive that creates a bubble or what not? Can this happen? And do you think it would happen in our life time? The ability to travel 4 or 5 light years in 2 weeks... Any estimate when this could happen? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years etc...? If you can provide references too that would b great. I like reading. An answer to your first question is the Albecurrie Drive. That is a drive that essentially puts the ship inside a bubble of space time that is independent of the spacetime around it. How it is driven is really hard for me to explain. Spacetime itself is not limited by the laws governing the speed of light. Believe it or not, our universe expanded to a large part of it's current size in the very first few years of it's existence. The "bubble" of spacetime that we call our Universe is actually LARGER than the distance light can travel in the amount of time the universe has been in existence. It's funny stuff. The problem with the Albecurrie drive is that we have no immediately practical idea how to create the technology to cause spacetime to warp...however, there IS theoretical work being done in this area. Another way to travel twixt "here" and "there" would be to create wormholes (through? across? around?) that link one part of space to another and cross the bridge between those two points. Again, the technology to WARP the fabric of spacetime is theoretical and we currently have no manner in which to generate the large amounts of energy or manipulate the immense mass needed to do this. There are also theoretical issues with keeping the wormhole open. Can we do it? I think we COULD do it if we didn't squander our resources on welfare. Mankind man make AMAZING leaps of technology in VERY short spans when the money and the drive are there. |
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I keep reading about the time piece, and I can't wrap my head around it. If you move matter to create less friction you are just moving really fast. The difference is how fast I move from A to B. I just can't fathom how the heck these theories propose you age a matter of hours while the world sees years. Your physical senescence does not stop just because you move really fast, body processes continue. Quoted:
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I have read online that it is possible and then other articles online saying it is not... Something about we can develop a warp drive that creates a bubble or what not? Can this happen? And do you think it would happen in our life time? The ability to travel 4 or 5 light years in 2 weeks... Any estimate when this could happen? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years etc...? If you can provide references too that would b great. I like reading. It is technically possible... Well, perhaps not specifically called impossible by relativity. What you are looking for is the albecurrie drive. Einstein's famous equation prevents you from jumping into a ship and blasting off to the speed of light because as speed increases, so does mass to the point that it would take infinite energy to propel infinite mass the speed of light. Where the Albecurrie drive comes in is that relativity does not prevent spacetime from being moved at any speed. Create a piece of spacetime that is moving and put your ship in that, technically your ship isn't moving, the area around it is, which also cancels out the negative aspects of time dilation. The problem with this is attaining the energy and mass necessary to move space like that. Also, at lightspeed, your travel time, from your point of view, is instantaneous to all points in the universe. As time diliative effects increase exponentially the closer to the speed of light you get, eventually, just as mass becomes infinite, so does time dilation, for you. Example: you and I are going to head to that banging strip club on Proxima Centauri b and set off at the speed of light. We trash that fucking place, and spend two hours doing so, then come back, again at the speed of light. We have aged two hours that we spend turning a strip club upside down. To everyone else, we were gone for 8.4 years. I keep reading about the time piece, and I can't wrap my head around it. If you move matter to create less friction you are just moving really fast. The difference is how fast I move from A to B. I just can't fathom how the heck these theories propose you age a matter of hours while the world sees years. Your physical senescence does not stop just because you move really fast, body processes continue. Diliative effects don't really work like that, where basically you're "frozen" in time until you get there. Now if you had a crystal ball that let you look in on the crew of the spaceship from earth, you would see them moving slower and slower until such time that they were "frozen" but they're not. If the reverse were true and you were on the ship with a crystal ball looking at people on earth, you would see them going faster and faster as your velocity increased towards infinite speed when you reach the speed of light. To you, everything and everyone around you in the ship continues to move act, and talk just like normal. Your frame of reference is drastically different. As an example, if you're in a spaceship orbiting our planet out around the orbit of the moon, not only are you going tremendously fast, but being that far outside the gravity well, you would experience time at a different rate than everyone on earth. The GPS satellites we rely on to get bombs onto the heads of Hadjis wouldn't be accurate if we did not correct for this. To you, time passes as normal, your watch reads seconds exactly the same as it always has, but when you get back to earth, you'd notice a discrepancy in every watch you'd synched up with yours before you left. Potentially a great one if you were out there screwing around long enough. Any movement whatsoever actually creates diliative effects. If I'm on one side of the Galaxy and you're on the other, and you start walking towards me while looking at me with your crystal ball, because the distance magnifies the effect, much like a train Doppler effect of the whistle, you would see me as a very old man. Walk the other way and magically you see me all perfect little eight pound six ounce baby turbo. Can't even say a word yet. Better yet, if you want a fast trip into the future, hit up the black hole at the center of the Galaxy for a half hour ship relative time. When you got back, not counting you traveling the 56k light years, you'd have only aged a half hour while everyone else aged hundreds of years. |
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Diliative effects don't really work like that, where basically you're "frozen" in time until you get there. Now if you had a crystal ball that let you look in on the crew of the spaceship from earth, you would see them moving slower and slower until such time that they were "frozen" but they're not. If the reverse were true and you were on the ship with a crystal ball looking at people on earth, you would see them going faster and faster as your velocity increased towards infinite speed when you reach the speed of light. To you, everything and everyone around you in the ship continues to move act, and talk just like normal. Your frame of reference is drastically different. As an example, if you're in a spaceship orbiting our planet out around the orbit of the moon, not only are you going tremendously fast, but being that far outside the gravity well, you would experience time at a different rate than everyone on earth. The GPS satellites we rely on to get bombs onto the heads of Hadjis wouldn't be accurate if we did not correct for this. To you, time passes as normal, your watch reads seconds exactly the same as it always has, but when you get back to earth, you'd notice a discrepancy in every watch you'd synched up with yours before you left. Potentially a great one if you were out there screwing around long enough. Any movement whatsoever actually creates diliative effects. If I'm on one side of the Galaxy and you're on the other, and you start walking towards me while looking at me with your crystal ball, because the distance magnifies the effect, much like a train Doppler effect of the whistle, you would see me as a very old man. Walk the other way and magically you see me all perfect little eight pound six ounce baby turbo. Can't even say a word yet. Better yet, if you want a fast trip into the future, hit up the black hole at the center of the Galaxy for a half hour ship relative time. When you got back, not counting you traveling the 56k light years, you'd have only aged a half hour while everyone else aged hundreds of years. Quoted:
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I have read online that it is possible and then other articles online saying it is not... Something about we can develop a warp drive that creates a bubble or what not? Can this happen? And do you think it would happen in our life time? The ability to travel 4 or 5 light years in 2 weeks... Any estimate when this could happen? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years etc...? If you can provide references too that would b great. I like reading. It is technically possible... Well, perhaps not specifically called impossible by relativity. What you are looking for is the albecurrie drive. Einstein's famous equation prevents you from jumping into a ship and blasting off to the speed of light because as speed increases, so does mass to the point that it would take infinite energy to propel infinite mass the speed of light. Where the Albecurrie drive comes in is that relativity does not prevent spacetime from being moved at any speed. Create a piece of spacetime that is moving and put your ship in that, technically your ship isn't moving, the area around it is, which also cancels out the negative aspects of time dilation. The problem with this is attaining the energy and mass necessary to move space like that. Also, at lightspeed, your travel time, from your point of view, is instantaneous to all points in the universe. As time diliative effects increase exponentially the closer to the speed of light you get, eventually, just as mass becomes infinite, so does time dilation, for you. Example: you and I are going to head to that banging strip club on Proxima Centauri b and set off at the speed of light. We trash that fucking place, and spend two hours doing so, then come back, again at the speed of light. We have aged two hours that we spend turning a strip club upside down. To everyone else, we were gone for 8.4 years. I keep reading about the time piece, and I can't wrap my head around it. If you move matter to create less friction you are just moving really fast. The difference is how fast I move from A to B. I just can't fathom how the heck these theories propose you age a matter of hours while the world sees years. Your physical senescence does not stop just because you move really fast, body processes continue. Diliative effects don't really work like that, where basically you're "frozen" in time until you get there. Now if you had a crystal ball that let you look in on the crew of the spaceship from earth, you would see them moving slower and slower until such time that they were "frozen" but they're not. If the reverse were true and you were on the ship with a crystal ball looking at people on earth, you would see them going faster and faster as your velocity increased towards infinite speed when you reach the speed of light. To you, everything and everyone around you in the ship continues to move act, and talk just like normal. Your frame of reference is drastically different. As an example, if you're in a spaceship orbiting our planet out around the orbit of the moon, not only are you going tremendously fast, but being that far outside the gravity well, you would experience time at a different rate than everyone on earth. The GPS satellites we rely on to get bombs onto the heads of Hadjis wouldn't be accurate if we did not correct for this. To you, time passes as normal, your watch reads seconds exactly the same as it always has, but when you get back to earth, you'd notice a discrepancy in every watch you'd synched up with yours before you left. Potentially a great one if you were out there screwing around long enough. Any movement whatsoever actually creates diliative effects. If I'm on one side of the Galaxy and you're on the other, and you start walking towards me while looking at me with your crystal ball, because the distance magnifies the effect, much like a train Doppler effect of the whistle, you would see me as a very old man. Walk the other way and magically you see me all perfect little eight pound six ounce baby turbo. Can't even say a word yet. Better yet, if you want a fast trip into the future, hit up the black hole at the center of the Galaxy for a half hour ship relative time. When you got back, not counting you traveling the 56k light years, you'd have only aged a half hour while everyone else aged hundreds of years. My mind is full of fuck. Pretty cool theories, It just seems a bit hokey that someone could be gone 45min at a given speed, and earth sees a century. Time isn't really related to velocity, its a independent variable. |
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It won't happen in my lifetime. There are many other issues associated with longer-term space travel that would have to be overcome as well. The human body is fairly fragile and needy when it has to survive the harsh conditions of space. Slow degeneration of various structures and systems occur. The plants necessary for food supply can produce toxic levels of O2. Keeping the human healthy over time is going to be a huge obstacle. Where would we be going in this extreme distance travel? How will we sustain life once there? |
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The next great Era of human history will be written in this solar system. There are many celestial bodies in our own backyard that we haven't even began to explore and exploit. Maybe in 500 years when we've mastered our own solar system will people start talking about the next big leap.
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To everyone that says that it can never be done, I give you this.
The Radio Frequency resonant cavity thruster design exerts force by no known classical electromagnetic phenomena, but yet it does. It is literally acting on something/somehow that we haven't the foggiest idea of how/what. It is creating thrust from microwaves, think about that just for a second, no fuel, no expulsion, just EM radiation that creates thrust. The biggest brains in the world have no idea how it works, but yet it does. Harold White is doing some amazing research into re-thinking how the Alcubierre Drive could be created, I can't remember where but I think I read they were testing passing light through a bubble that was the size of a pin head and were coming up with a time dilation. |
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My mind is full of fuck. Pretty cool theories, It just seems a bit hokey that someone could be gone 45min at a given speed, and earth sees a century. Time isn't really related to velocity, its a independent variable. No, your mind is open. It is the first step and it is an important one. It means you're not an idiot. 
The 45 minutes spent around Sag A wouldn't dilate your time because of velocity. It would dilate because of the tremendous gravity around the singularity. That said, if you were going .8c or so, you would absolutely experience some pretty wicked diliative effects when you got back. And you are correct, time *IS* an independent variable. Which makes time so interesting! We actually can control our voyage through time to some extent, but only in one direction. We don't get to put the shifter into reverse. |
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Will travel at light speed be possible? Pretty soon we will fuck around and create a black hole and suck everything to the back of beyond. Game over. http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/blogs/6a00d8341bf67c53ef0133f1eff7d5970b-800wi.jpg Hawking radiation prevents this. |
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I have read online that it is possible and then other articles online saying it is not... Something about we can develop a warp drive that creates a bubble or what not? Can this happen? And do you think it would happen in our life time? The ability to travel 4 or 5 light years in 2 weeks... Any estimate when this could happen? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years etc...? If you can provide references too that would b great. I like reading. Not in our lifetime. |
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Who says that the speed of light is the limit. Once we figure out how to do it, What is to prevent us from being able to travel 1,000,000 times the speed of light. With our current understanding of the universe and physics it isn't necessarily possible, but things change. The next Einstein might be able to figure it out Quoted:
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The ability to travel at light speed is irrelevant in terms of cosmic scale. The universe is so massive that even if we traveled at the speed of light it would still take an impossible amount of time to get anywhere useful. We would also need to come up with a way to essentially hibernate on the journey or better yet the ability to jump to any given point in the universe instantaneously. Who says that the speed of light is the limit. Once we figure out how to do it, What is to prevent us from being able to travel 1,000,000 times the speed of light. With our current understanding of the universe and physics it isn't necessarily possible, but things change. The next Einstein might be able to figure it out This, nothing is impossible it's just that no one has figured out how to it yet. |
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... keep in mind, if enough energy were available to attain the speed of light, it would take a year accelerating at 1G to get there. Another year decelerating to step off the vessel Came here to post this. Accel and decel = a long fucking time.....else you are juice. So, first invent an anti-gravity bubble, then figure out how to make it go really fast. |
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Came here to post this. Accel and decel = a long fucking time.....else you are juice. So, first invent an anti-gravity bubble, then figure out how to make it go really fast. Quoted:
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... keep in mind, if enough energy were available to attain the speed of light, it would take a year accelerating at 1G to get there. Another year decelerating to step off the vessel Came here to post this. Accel and decel = a long fucking time.....else you are juice. So, first invent an anti-gravity bubble, then figure out how to make it go really fast. not if you move space with you |
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I have read online that it is possible and then other articles online saying it is not... Something about we can develop a warp drive that creates a bubble or what not? Can this happen? And do you think it would happen in our life time? The ability to travel 4 or 5 light years in 2 weeks... Any estimate when this could happen? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years etc...? If you can provide references too that would b great. I like reading. If you like to read, try this. EDTA: Don't miss the video And to answer your questions: No, it is not possible, ever. The astrophysicist in the video will explain why. The thunderbolts.info web site will explain a lot of NASA's "we don't quite understand blah, blah, blah" BS too. |
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I have read online that it is possible and then other articles online saying it is not... Something about we can develop a warp drive that creates a bubble or what not? Can this happen? And do you think it would happen in our life time? The ability to travel 4 or 5 light years in 2 weeks... Any estimate when this could happen? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years etc...? If you can provide references too that would b great. I like reading. There are theoretical drives, but all of them require things that we've never found to exist. We're probably closer to 100 years out than 20 years out, if it's even possible. |
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I have read online that it is possible and then other articles online saying it is not... Something about we can develop a warp drive that creates a bubble or what not? Can this happen? And do you think it would happen in our life time? The ability to travel 4 or 5 light years in 2 weeks... Any estimate when this could happen? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years etc...? If you can provide references too that would b great. I like reading. Yes How old are you? Remember we went from not able to fly to putting a man on the moon (and bringing him home) in about 65 years. Or even more dramatic we went from not even having a jet engine to flying nearly mach 6 in about 25 years, to landing a man on the moon a few years later. 50 years after that we're remote controlling robots on fucking Mars in real time. We've sent a spacecraft out of the solar system. |
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Quoted: Time isn't really related to velocity, its a independent variable.
it really is related. for example, GPS satellites must account for their relative motion per einsteins equations in order to give correct location to users on earth. time is very dependant on mass/gravity. another example, 2 identical atomic clocks, one at sea level, and one 50k feet up in a hovering balloon would see each other as ticking at different rates. now God's reference point may very well be independent, but int the reality that exisits as our universe, time and matter and gravity are all related. this is what einsteins theories of relativity are all about. to really blow your mind, look up relativity of simultaneity. but to explain time dilation better I saw some videos that went over the reference really well and was a really good explanation with an example of a spacecraft leaving and returning, and what the 2 reference frames thought of each other. ill prob never be able to find them again, but they were fantastic the concept of time was brought about in the big bang. before, there was no time, after it collapses, there will be no time. which interestingly enough, I beleive, has some biblical aspects of infinity followed by time followed by infinity. or something like that, not sure |
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it really is. for example, GPS satellites must account for their relative motion per einsteins equations in order to give correct location to users on earth. time is very dependant on mass/gravity It also has to be accounted for in particle accelerators. |
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Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space. WAT?!big, really BIG! http://youtu.be/17jymDn0W6U 
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