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10/25/2012 6:59:19 PM EDT
.....I was taught that all guns are always loaded and to treat them as such....what is point of such a thing?
10/25/2012 7:00:17 PM EDT
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.....I was taught that all guns are always loaded and to treat them as such....what is point of such a thing?


Quick visual check, and CA requires it to be legal in their communist state.
10/25/2012 7:00:36 PM EDT
[#2]
Feel good.
 
10/25/2012 7:00:56 PM EDT
[#3]
Militia & Liberals
10/25/2012 7:01:07 PM EDT
[#4]
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.....I was taught that all guns are always loaded and to treat them as such....what is point of such a thing?


To let you know there's a round in the chamber...

10/25/2012 7:02:11 PM EDT
[#5]
reassurance...

in a hostile environment you can look or feel to see if you remembered to chamber a round....

not everyone is a firearms expert...so this is nice for them

just one small tool that not everyone wants or needs...

and liability protection for manufacturers...(for when some dumb ass tries to say "I did not know it was loaded")
10/25/2012 7:02:13 PM EDT
[#6]
Makes lazy/dumb people feel better I guess
10/25/2012 7:02:18 PM EDT
[#7]
More like, to remind you there is NOT a round in the chamber.
10/25/2012 7:02:28 PM EDT
[#8]



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.....I was taught that all guns are always loaded and to treat them as such....what is point of such a thing?




To let you know there's a round in the chamber...





But there's always a round in the chamber. Even when there isn't.



 
10/25/2012 7:02:29 PM EDT
[#9]



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.....I was taught that all guns are always loaded and to treat them as such....what is point of such a thing?


Because people regularly forget to perform that check?

 



My XD has one, it's pretty handy.
10/25/2012 7:02:46 PM EDT
[#10]
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.....I was taught that all guns are always loaded and to treat them as such....what is point of such a thing?


To let you know there's a round in the chamber...



Well, I guess a little redundancy never hurts....esp. in an airplane....
10/25/2012 7:04:44 PM EDT
[#11]
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.....I was taught that all guns are always loaded and to treat them as such....what is point of such a thing?

Because people regularly forget to perform that check?  

My XD has one, it's pretty handy.


This and I always check




10/25/2012 7:04:48 PM EDT
[#12]
It's handy when it's pitch black dark and you're just not sure.
10/25/2012 7:07:54 PM EDT
[#13]


Extra points on the ATF import scale.

10/25/2012 7:08:29 PM EDT
[#14]
If it's dark and you are crawling up to put one in Charlie's grape, click instead of thwack or boom will get you deaded.
10/25/2012 7:11:37 PM EDT
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It's handy when it's pitch black dark and you're just not sure.



Exactly.  I like the ones that you can feel - not just see.  Like on an XD for example.  You can feel that you have one in the chamber and that your action is cocked and ready - all without looking at your firearm.
10/25/2012 7:12:34 PM EDT
[#16]
Easy, it's an extra part that can fail.
10/25/2012 7:13:13 PM EDT
[#17]
My J frame has one too.
10/25/2012 7:16:32 PM EDT
[#18]
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If it's dark and you are crawling up to put one in Charlie's grape, click instead of thwack or boom will get you deaded.


and deading is bad
10/25/2012 7:17:35 PM EDT
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It's handy when it's pitch black dark and you're just not sure.



Exactly.  I like the ones that you can feel - not just see.  Like on an XD for example.  You can feel that you have one in the chamber and that your action is cocked and ready - all without looking at your firearm.


When someone asks "Then how can you be sure brand z is loaded?"  I usually say "because you loaded it before you put it in your holster."
10/25/2012 7:19:53 PM EDT
[#20]
Nanny state bullshit.
10/25/2012 7:20:38 PM EDT
[#21]
The nice thing about them is that any five year old can tell at a glance as to wether the gun is hot. Because they are all identical like an orange plug

Worthless as tits on Hillary Clinton
10/25/2012 7:29:30 PM EDT
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Easy, it's an extra part that can fail.


Many, like Glocks and Berettas simply use a raised portion on the extractor. No extra parts at all. In most cases, even those with an extra part like the XD, it doesn't or can't possibly affect the function of the firearm, so why not have it?
10/25/2012 7:32:28 PM EDT
[#23]
It's a product of lawyerization, same as action locks and revolvers with ridiculously heavy trigger pulls.
10/25/2012 7:35:28 PM EDT
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.....I was taught that all guns are always loaded and to treat them as such....what is point of such a thing?


To let you know there's a round in the chamber...


But there's always a round in the chamber. Even when there isn't.
 


Exactly. It's obvious that it's always loaded right?

There's never been an unloaded gun.
10/25/2012 7:36:24 PM EDT
[#25]
But there's always a round in the chamber. Even when there isn't.
 


Not when you pull the trigger and it goes 'CLICK'. With an indicator, you can feel the top of the pistol and KNOW there is one in the pipe.

In most practical situations, it's not necessary. But there are instances where a gun will be loaded and unloaded many times in a day. If you get it wrong at a crucial moment, you might not have time to factor in sliding the rack back. A simple touch on top tells you it's 'show or no.'

But really, they don't mean much to me. I have 2 with them, and I don't care about the indicator.
10/25/2012 7:37:04 PM EDT
[#26]
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It's handy when it's pitch black dark and you're just not sure.


This.
10/25/2012 7:37:51 PM EDT
[#27]
A couple kids came over to my bench at the range to ask what that orange dot was on their handgun.
10/25/2012 7:43:11 PM EDT
[#28]
Meh, don't hurt to have one and it works in the dark by touch unlike the press check I always do on my G22.
The three loudest sounds in the world are a click when it's supposed to be a bang, Abang when it's supposed click and "Honey I'm home"
10/25/2012 7:43:23 PM EDT
[#29]



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Easy, it's an extra part that can fail.




Many, like Glocks and Berettas simply use a raised portion on the extractor. No extra parts at all. In most cases, even those with an extra part like the XD, it doesn't or can't possibly affect the function of the firearm, so why not have it?
Know how I know you don't own a Ruger Mark III?





 
10/25/2012 7:46:20 PM EDT
[#30]
Don't hurt having one, does it, I've heard a few people complain about them tho
10/25/2012 7:47:47 PM EDT
[#31]
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.....I was taught that all guns are always loaded and to treat them as such....what is point of such a thing?


Allows you to confirm loaded chamber in low/no light situations.  I can grab my XDm off the night stand, run my finger across the top of the slide, and know for cerrtain a round is chambered.
10/25/2012 7:48:14 PM EDT
[#32]
I like them
10/25/2012 7:52:53 PM EDT
[#33]
I'm always looking through the top of my M&P 9C just to be certain that its still there. Its like knowing my presents are still under the tree.
 
10/25/2012 7:53:10 PM EDT
[#34]
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It's handy when it's pitch black dark and you're just not sure.


This.

If I roll out of bed and grab the Glock, I'll be checking to make sure I didn't have a case of dumbass and leave it unloaded.
10/25/2012 8:05:10 PM EDT
[#35]
It's not for safety, it is to make sure you get a bang instead of a click.
10/25/2012 8:08:40 PM EDT
[#36]
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It's handy when it's pitch black dark and you're just not sure.


This.


I always saw it as an advantage, not a disadvantage.
10/25/2012 8:16:32 PM EDT
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Easy, it's an extra part that can fail.


Many, like Glocks and Berettas simply use a raised portion on the extractor. No extra parts at all. In most cases, even those with an extra part like the XD, it doesn't or can't possibly affect the function of the firearm, so why not have it?
Know how I know you don't own a Ruger Mark III?

 


I said "many", and maybe should have said "some", but I certainly knew enough to not say "all".
10/25/2012 8:32:22 PM EDT
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Easy, it's an extra part that can fail.
This is what people used to say about ABS.





 
10/25/2012 8:33:42 PM EDT
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Nanny state bullshit.


Locks on S&W revolvers are nanny state bullshit.  Loaded chamber indicators are a feature that some people actually want.



 
10/26/2012 2:23:03 AM EDT
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It's handy when it's pitch black dark and you're just not sure.



Exactly.  I like the ones that you can feel - not just see.  Like on an XD for example.  You can feel that you have one in the chamber and that your action is cocked and ready - all without looking at your firearm.


When someone asks "Then how can you be sure brand z is loaded?"  I usually say "because you loaded it before you put it in your holster."


One of my recurring nightmares since injury is being in a deadly force situation, firing my weapon, and hearing click.  With the LCI, I can know immediately and easily that I have a rounf chambered.
10/26/2012 2:24:21 AM EDT
[#41]
Know for certain in the dark
10/26/2012 2:36:07 AM EDT
[#42]
On my 22/45, I hate the damn thing, absolutely useless

On my XD and glock, I love them. The way I look at it, if I can confirm it's loaded quickly and without taking my eyes off a threat, it gives me that much more time and mental clarity to focus on the situation.
10/26/2012 2:36:08 AM EDT
[#43]
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.....I was taught that all guns are always loaded and to treat them as such....what is point of such a thing?


Edited because I misread and thought this was about empty chamber indicators
10/26/2012 2:37:22 AM EDT
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.....I was taught that all guns are always loaded and to treat them as such....what is point of such a thing?


To let you know there's a round in the chamber...


But there's always a round in the chamber. Even when there isn't.
 


How does it go bang then?
10/26/2012 2:49:29 AM EDT
[#45]
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.....I was taught that all guns are always loaded and to treat them as such....what is point of such a thing?


To indicate that the bang switch will not work.
10/26/2012 8:29:52 AM EDT
[#46]
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.....I was taught that all guns are always loaded and to treat them as such....what is point of such a thing?


To indicate that the bang switch will not work.


That definitely sounds like a useful feature from that angle.
10/26/2012 8:31:29 AM EDT
[#47]
So I know I am loaded after the range.
10/26/2012 8:33:14 AM EDT
[#48]
You are looking at it from the wrong angle. There's no need to do a press check to make sure you do have a round loaded on say an M&P (for example) for when you need it. It's readily apparent. Assuming the gun is loaded when it's not and you need to defend yourself is bad.
10/26/2012 8:36:28 AM EDT
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Easy, it's an extra part that can fail.


Except when they're not an extra part.
10/26/2012 8:37:08 AM EDT
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.....I was taught that all guns are always loaded and to treat them as such....what is point of such a thing?


Allows you to confirm loaded chamber in low/no light situations.  I can grab my XDm off the night stand, run my finger across the top of the slide, and know for certain a round is chambered.


Yep. I'm a really big fan of this feature for this reason. IMO the feature doesn't really have anything to do with safety; a gun should always be treated as though it's loaded. The feature allows you to confirm if a round is chambered without having to manipulate the slide in any way.

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