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5/6/2008 4:43:44 PM EDT
So Im wanting to get a good camera.. been looking at a few

Nikon D60
Canon XTi
Canon Xsi

Im leaning more towards the Xti due to the price.. was wondering what the main differences between all them are.. also what are some good lens to look at getting. thanks!
5/6/2008 10:05:34 PM EDT
[#1]
You can't go wrong with a Nikon or Canon. You should go and handle each one and see which one feels best in your hand (like a good pistol).  I'd have to know more about what you were wanting to shoot and the big one, what's your budget when it comes to buying glass. This is where all your money really goes. Good glass will make a huge difference.

Shooting with Nikon D300, D200, D80, SB800 flash(X2), Nikon 80-400VR 4.5-5.6, Nikon 70-200VR 2.8, Nikon 28-70 2.8, Nikon 18-135mm 3.6-5.6, Nikon 85 1.4, Nikon 60 Micro 2.8, Nikon 50mm 1.8, Nikon 10.5 2.8, Tokina 12-24 4,  3 Alien Bees 800"s, Sekonic L-358...
5/6/2008 10:39:09 PM EDT
[#2]
Look into a used 30D.  Got mine (body only) for $630.  

If you're interested in Canon, visit POTN

Since you're moving here in Sept, visit Honolulu's POTN Hale to meet other photographers.
5/7/2008 3:10:36 AM EDT
[#3]
I'd reccommend the XTi, for the price and the lens compatibility.
Of course, i don't know why I bother, since no one ever listens to the advice they ask for here...they just go buy whatever they find on special.  
5/7/2008 3:40:53 AM EDT
[#4]
It usually goes something like this around here:

Arfcommer A: "Buy A Canon!"

Arfcommer B: "Screw that, buy a Nikon"

Arfcommer A: "Cannon!"

Arfcommer B: "Nikon!"

"Cannon!"

"Nikon!"

"Cannon!"

"Nikon!"

"Cannon!!!!"

"Nikon!!!!"

"Ford!!!!"

"Chevy!!!!"

"9MM!!!"

".45!!!!!"

"Colt!!!!"

"Armalite!!!!"


etc., etc., etc......
5/7/2008 3:56:07 AM EDT
[#5]
Canon XTI gets my vote
5/7/2008 4:27:34 AM EDT
[#6]
The Canon v. Nikon commentary is both amusing and accurate.  If you are new to photography, I would be inclined to recommend buying used/refurbished, and saving the money for lenses.  If you find a brand or system you like, invest in glass, and know that as you exceed the limits of a previous-generation camera that you can upgrade later.  I did this 2 years ago with a D70s, and even though I think about upgrading it frequently, it STILL makes pictures more than adequate for my purposes, but my collection of lenses has changed somewhat dramatically.

shooter
5/7/2008 4:37:17 AM EDT
[#7]
Its all about the glass

the DSLR is disposable

the lenses are forever

;)
5/7/2008 4:38:52 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
It usually goes something like this around here:

Arfcommer A: "Buy A Canon!"

Arfcommer B: "Screw that, buy a Nikon"

Arfcommer A: "Cannon!"

Arfcommer B: "Nikon!"

"Cannon!"

"Nikon!"

"Cannon!"

"Nikon!"

"Cannon!!!!"

"Nikon!!!!"

"Ford!!!!"

"Chevy!!!!"

"9MM!!!"

".45!!!!!"

"Colt!!!!"

"Armalite!!!!"


etc., etc., etc......


Not really.  In every "which DSLR to get" thread I've seen so far, people generally reccommend getting Canon or Nikon because of the extensive systems of lenses and gear already in existence for those two lines.  They then reccommend getting either the Canon XTi or a refurb 30D or some such for Canon or the D80 or D200 for Nikon.  The person then proceeds to buy a Sony or an Olympus or the Nikon D40 that can't take the older Nikon glass or many third party lenses, just because they found a good deal online.
5/7/2008 6:20:37 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It usually goes something like this around here:

Arfcommer A: "Buy A Canon!"

Arfcommer B: "Screw that, buy a Nikon"

Arfcommer A: "Cannon!"

Arfcommer B: "Nikon!"

"Cannon!"

"Nikon!"

"Cannon!"

"Nikon!"

"Cannon!!!!"

"Nikon!!!!"

"Ford!!!!"

"Chevy!!!!"

"9MM!!!"

".45!!!!!"

"Colt!!!!"

"Armalite!!!!"


etc., etc., etc......


Not really.  In every "which DSLR to get" thread I've seen so far, people generally reccommend getting Canon or Nikon because of the extensive systems of lenses and gear already in existence for those two lines.  They then reccommend getting either the Canon XTi or a refurb 30D or some such for Canon or the D80 or D200 for Nikon.  The person then proceeds to buy a Sony or an Olympus or the Nikon D40 that can't take the older Nikon glass or many third party lenses, just because they found a good deal online.


So true. I actually thought about concluding my previous post with:

OP:  "Ok guys, thanks for all the info. I settled on a Sony DSLR, a Saturn, a .40S&W, and an Oly Arms..."
5/7/2008 6:22:52 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Its all about the glass

the DSLR is disposable

the lenses are forever

;)



+1

-Mark.
5/7/2008 6:40:49 AM EDT
[#11]
Im looking to spend around $1000 total ... I have use experience with canon from the military we use them in the planes to rig boats and such and i really like them so I guess Im leaning towards the Xti or Xsi, Guess i really need help getting a good lens.
5/7/2008 6:52:23 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Im looking to spend around $1000 total ... I have use experience with canon from the military we use them in the planes to rig boats and such and i really like them so I guess Im leaning towards the Xti or Xsi, Guess i really need help getting a good lens.



A good, cheap, all-around walkaround lens is the Sigma 17-70.  It's not a professional lens by any means, but for the money it's a good snapshot lens.
A good bargain telezoom is the Sigma 70-300 DG Macro. Not the fastest focussing lens, but it's within your stated budget.
As for primes, the Canon 50mm f1.8 can be had cheap and is great for the money.  For a couple hundred you can find a used Canon 24mm f2.8 which is an excellent lens for the money.
5/7/2008 8:08:16 AM EDT
[#14]
Ive been looking at the wide angle lens that goes on a pre exsiting lens.. that looks real cool.
5/7/2008 8:43:02 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Ive been looking at the wide angle lens that goes on a pre exsiting lens.. that looks real cool.


The results aren't that great.  If you want wide angle, just get the wide angle lens.  The Tokina 12-24 is a good choice for the money.
5/7/2008 9:07:49 AM EDT
[#16]
I'm torn between the xti and the xsi.... Xti because of the price... But I like the functions of the xsi.
5/7/2008 9:26:21 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I'm torn between the xti and the xsi.... Xti because of the price... But I like the functions of the xsi.


What functions of the XSi? The only real advantage that I see is LiveView...and then only if doing a lot of macro shooting.

I would go with the XTi and put money into better glass, or a battery grip. The XTi is a bit compact for me without the grip.
5/7/2008 10:06:55 AM EDT
[#18]
whats the difference between the SD/SDHC and the CF cards? I also like the Xsi viewfinder better.. but the price of the Xti is hard to beat.
5/7/2008 10:19:07 AM EDT
[#19]
A great lens would be a Canon 70-200 f4 L  I think they run about $500 bucks or so.

70-200 f4 L

-Mark.


5/7/2008 9:10:42 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
What functions of the XSi? The only real advantage that I see is LiveView...and then only if doing a lot of macro shooting.


ISO in the viewfinder.
Longer battery life.
More JPEG buffer (but fewer RAW shots????)
Slightly faster burst
Some extra custom functions
Slightly lighter
Spot metering
5/8/2008 3:01:14 PM EDT
[#21]
I ended up getting a Xti .. came with a canon efs 18-55mm lens.. so Im pretty happy .. thanks for all the help!
5/8/2008 4:44:35 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Ive been looking at the wide angle lens that goes on a pre exsiting lens.. that looks real cool.


The results aren't that great.  If you want wide angle, just get the wide angle lens.  The Tokina 12-24 is a good choice for the money.


I have the Tokina and it is a good wide angle lens.