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4/24/2017 8:27:53 PM EDT



EDIT:  Video up







Since it was somehow not obvious to you guys that the rounds were going through, here is a pic 

4/24/2017 9:07:56 PM EDT
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I see a lot of stuff going on "behind" the armor. That's never a good sign.
4/24/2017 9:10:08 PM EDT
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looks like that tree trunk is getting the "business".
4/24/2017 9:15:49 PM EDT
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Ok,
4/24/2017 9:17:56 PM EDT
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Is it just me or does the armor look like its not facing the proper direction?

Im always cool with some full auto destruction however
4/24/2017 9:53:31 PM EDT
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4/25/2017 8:08:18 PM EDT
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The only rounds that didn't go through were the couple that hit at a steep angle when the plate was falling over
4/25/2017 8:09:00 PM EDT
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Is it just me or does the armor look like its not facing the proper direction?

Im always cool with some full auto destruction however
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It really doesn't matter for steel armor
4/26/2017 1:19:06 PM EDT
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4/26/2017 1:29:47 PM EDT
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what flavor of 5.56?  Because if it's 193 that's not a surprise at all.
4/26/2017 2:17:36 PM EDT
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You gonna let us know when it's ready.
4/26/2017 2:29:07 PM EDT
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That's pretty cool.
4/26/2017 2:31:12 PM EDT
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Yeah but how quiet was it and did you compare it to a 50 BMG bolt action?
4/26/2017 2:31:15 PM EDT
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what flavor of 5.56?  Because if it's 193 that's not a surprise at all.
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Federal Lake city xm193
4/26/2017 2:32:50 PM EDT
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The full video?  Yeah I'll post it in here, it's uploaded I just need to finish the description and thumbnail and stuff.
4/26/2017 2:33:41 PM EDT
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It was loud af with the brake on the gun.


I don't own a 50 BMG.


Are you trying to make a joke about 300blk?  If so 1/10 
4/26/2017 2:36:17 PM EDT
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The Wound Channel?  I've been watching a bunch of your reviews lately.  Good stuff, it's been educational.  I'd love to see a video breaking down what did well and what didn't.  A 2017 armor buyer's guide kind of thing. 

Thanks for your work, I enjoy it.
4/26/2017 2:37:37 PM EDT
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The Wound Channel?  I've been watching a bunch of your reviews lately.  Good stuff, it's been educational.  I'd love to see a video breaking down what did well and what didn't.  A 2017 armor buyer's guide kind of thing. 

Thanks for your work, I enjoy it.
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Thanks!!  I haven't made a "summary type video" but that is a great suggestion.  I should put something comprehensive together.
4/26/2017 2:59:46 PM EDT
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It was loud af with the brake on the gun.


I don't own a 50 BMG.


Are you trying to make a joke about 300blk?  If so 1/10 
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It was loud af with the brake on the gun.


I don't own a 50 BMG.


Are you trying to make a joke about 300blk?  If so 1/10 
4/26/2017 5:31:05 PM EDT
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4/26/2017 5:33:50 PM EDT
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So are the rounds going through or not? How thick is the steel? AR500?
4/26/2017 5:33:59 PM EDT
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What barrel length?
4/26/2017 5:36:18 PM EDT
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So many details.
4/26/2017 5:41:00 PM EDT
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Steel plate, right?
4/26/2017 6:07:24 PM EDT
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Steel is for losers and a waste of money, we knew that already.
4/26/2017 10:20:51 PM EDT
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Yes, it is filthy peseant armor.
4/27/2017 9:35:06 AM EDT
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So are the rounds going through or not? How thick is the steel? AR500?
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Level III AR500 .25"

4/27/2017 9:36:34 AM EDT
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What barrel length?
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20"
4/27/2017 9:37:17 AM EDT
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Steel is for losers and a waste of money, we knew that already.
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That's not true at all, not when 2-3 rounds of 7.62x39 FMJ can go through a Level IV plate.
4/27/2017 9:46:24 AM EDT
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Interdasting
4/27/2017 10:01:29 AM EDT
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That would be an awesome "in" gif  
4/27/2017 10:14:51 AM EDT
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There are more efficient ways to chop a tree down.

Looks like fun....
4/28/2017 5:19:48 PM EDT
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That's not true at all, not when 2-3 rounds of 7.62x39 FMJ can go through a Level IV plate.
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Could you show me 2-3 reasons of x39 going through Level IV ceramic plates please?
4/28/2017 7:02:11 PM EDT
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Nice gif.
4/28/2017 7:17:37 PM EDT
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Could you show me 2-3 reasons of x39 going through Level IV ceramic plates please?
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That's not true at all, not when 2-3 rounds of 7.62x39 FMJ can go through a Level IV plate.
Could you show me 2-3 reasons of x39 going through Level IV ceramic plates please?
curious about this as well.....
4/29/2017 9:12:54 PM EDT
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Could you show me 2-3 reasons of x39 going through Level IV ceramic plates please?
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That's not true at all, not when 2-3 rounds of 7.62x39 FMJ can go through a Level IV plate.
Could you show me 2-3 reasons of x39 going through Level IV ceramic plates please?
Do you mean example?  

This guy is annoying to watch but this video comes to mind 

http://youtu.be/53klUU-YuX0

Skip to 1:18, the second shot sounds like it rings the steel, the third one does for sure.
4/29/2017 9:21:30 PM EDT
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1/4" AR500 -
4/29/2017 9:25:10 PM EDT
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Do you mean example?  

This guy is annoying to watch but this video comes to mind  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53klUU-YuX0

http://youtu.be/53klUU-YuX0

Skip to 1:18, the second shot sounds like it rings the steel, the third one does for sure.
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Steel level IV?
4/29/2017 9:29:29 PM EDT
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Why not use 855  ?..i mean, that's kinda of what it was made for ?
4/29/2017 9:31:04 PM EDT
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Steel level IV?
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Do you mean example?  

This guy is annoying to watch but this video comes to mind  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53klUU-YuX0

http://youtu.be/53klUU-YuX0

Skip to 1:18, the second shot sounds like it rings the steel, the third one does for sure.
Steel level IV?
No that's a legit ceramic Level IV plate.  I tested those against other rounds, they are a tad heavy but as tough as any other Level IV plate.
4/29/2017 9:31:33 PM EDT
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Why not use 855  ?..i mean, that's kinda of what it was made for ?
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Because M855 sucks and won't go through this plate.
4/29/2017 9:35:49 PM EDT
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Because M855 sucks and won't go through this plate.
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Why not use 855  ?..i mean, that's kinda of what it was made for ?
Because M855 sucks and won't go through this plate.
Yep. When it comes to going through steel, velocity is where it's at.
4/29/2017 9:36:51 PM EDT
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Did the rate of fire actual contribute to the rounds going through, or was just the fun method to do it?
4/29/2017 9:52:09 PM EDT
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Do any of you know a reputable place to buy ceramic plates for a good price?

I want to get a simple plate carrier setup.  Last time I priced it, it came out to something like $1k.

Also, are side plates a good idea or just front and back?  Sorry for thread hijack but you seem to know a little about armor
4/30/2017 3:28:16 PM EDT
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Did the rate of fire actual contribute to the rounds going through, or was just the fun method to do it?
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Just a fun method to do it.

I couldn't get the MG to my normal range, and I couldn't secure the plate the way I wanted to and shoot from behind cover at this range or I would have cut it in half.  

I still might try to put a bumpfire stock on an M249S and cut another one in half
4/30/2017 3:35:35 PM EDT
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Do any of you know a reputable place to buy ceramic plates for a good price?

I want to get a simple plate carrier setup.  Last time I priced it, it came out to something like $1k.

Also, are side plates a good idea or just front and back?  Sorry for thread hijack but you seem to know a little about armor
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I would recommend Highcom Security 4SAS7's (or 3S9's) in whatever carrier looks good to you.  Plenty of people make good carriers, the Banshee is nice and the CAP and BPC from Highcom are nice too.


I wouldn't recommend hard side plates for a SHTF rig, kevlar wouldn't be a bad idea there since the weight and mobility impact are small. 

The question you have to answer is do you really need Level IV protection (30-06 Armor Piercing) or is stopping 5.56, 7.62x39, .308 etc enough?  If you are ok with just the intermediate rounds you can get a lighter plate, but the 4SAS7 is incredibly hard to beat for the money.  Especially when it's on sale.  If you don't find a coupon code let me know Highcom has given me them in the past I can probably get one for you.
4/30/2017 3:36:34 PM EDT
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That's not true at all, not when 2-3 rounds of 7.62x39 FMJ can go through a Level IV plate.
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My wife is thankful that it will stop at least 3 rds within a few inches inside 5 yards

Eta SAPIs in an interceptor
4/30/2017 3:39:58 PM EDT
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No that's a legit ceramic Level IV plate.  I tested those against other rounds, they are a tad heavy but as tough as any other Level IV plate.
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I wish my memory was better but wasn't there an issue with those plates. Not actually nij06 certified, or made in China, or something?
4/30/2017 8:22:13 PM EDT
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I wish my memory was better but wasn't there an issue with those plates. Not actually nij06 certified, or made in China, or something?
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There is certainly something wrong if NIJ Level IV Ceramic is getting 2nd shot penetrations from x39 at 25 yards. That one posted video is not indicative of what NIJ Level IV ceramic plates are rated to stop.
4/30/2017 8:33:48 PM EDT
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There is certainly something wrong if NIJ Level IV Ceramic is getting 2nd shot penetrations from x39 at 25 yards. That one posted video is not indicative of what NIJ Level IV ceramic plates are rated to stop.
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BS


Level IV plates are rated for 1 shot.  If you hit them twice close-ish to each other you can have rounds go through, that is the nature of having a ceramic strike face that shatters.
4/30/2017 9:23:50 PM EDT
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Level IV plates are rated for 1 shot.  If you hit them twice close-ish to each other you can have rounds go through, that is the nature of having a ceramic strike face that shatters.
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Are there any other videos? Of different plates?

Like I said. My experience, sample size of one, is the exact opposite.