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4/7/2005 11:50:22 AM EDT
Im wanting to buy some super strong magnets.  But I dont understand the grading system.

I see some which are "grade 36"  and  "grade n38" "grade n40" etc, etc.   What does that mean?  How do I read the grading system.

And what are the strongest magnets I can buy?

4/7/2005 11:51:44 AM EDT
[#1]
Radio Shack sells ceramic and rare earth magnets. Supposedly the rare earth magnets are really freaking strong compared to normal refrigerator magnets.
4/7/2005 11:54:13 AM EDT
[#2]
Why? And you're gonna send him to Radio Shack, Swindle?

I bet he wants to make one of those electromagnetic rail guns, like the one in ERASER.

I'll take one, please. And a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.
4/7/2005 11:56:35 AM EDT
[#3]


Hopefully not. An electromagnetic rail gun would require a magnetic field generated by an electromagnet, not a permanent magnet.
4/7/2005 11:57:33 AM EDT
[#4]
Everybody knows that.
4/7/2005 11:58:22 AM EDT
[#5]
Can you run an electrical current down a barrel lined with magnets? Would that do it?

Sorry, I read too much science fiction and know very little about real world issues
4/7/2005 11:59:33 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Hopefully not. An electromagnetic rail gun would require a magnetic field generated by an electromagnet, not a permanent magnet.



The permanent magnet simply holds the projectile on the rail when the gun is powered down.  Otherwise if you carry the gun pointed at the ground the projectile will fall out!
4/7/2005 12:00:12 PM EDT
[#7]
Actually I want to make one of those floating pen sets.  But a rail gun would be nice too.
4/7/2005 12:07:20 PM EDT
[#8]


Nope. You send a massive pulse of current through windings that generate a magnetic field either ahead of your projectile or behind it to either push or pull it. The force generated accelerates the projectile down the rail. No permanent magnets, just the windings and a whole lot of current. Here's a pretty extensive write-up on rail-gun design:

www.powerlabs.org/railgun.htm

Interestingly, at the bottom of that page the fellow talks about using some permanent magnets to augment the field... So, I was apparently wrong and permanent magnets may have a use in rail-guns outside of the actual projectiles...
4/7/2005 12:09:17 PM EDT
[#9]


Epsilon, sorry for the hijack (it was unintentional.)

Here's a page that lists different grades of magnets and their properties:

www.magnetapplications.com/UK/material_guide.htm

Hope that helps.
4/7/2005 12:09:55 PM EDT
[#10]
Didn't the Navy use some sort of experimental rail gun to put a 40 something grain projectile through 6" of armor plate a few years ago. I believe I saw it on the Discovery Channel one night when they were talking about magnets.
4/7/2005 12:11:28 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Nope. You send a massive pulse of current through windings that generate a magnetic field either ahead of your projectile or behind it to either push or pull it. The force generated accelerates the projectile down the rail. No permanent magnets, just the windings and a whole lot of current. Here's a pretty extensive write-up on rail-gun design:

www.powerlabs.org/railgun.htm

Interestingly, at the bottom of that page the fellow talks about using some permanent magnets to augment the field... So, I was apparently wrong and permanent magnets may have a use in rail-guns outside of the actual projectiles...



We ALL knew you were wrong and were waiting for you to admit it
4/7/2005 12:12:28 PM EDT
[#12]
Decent source of high-powered magnets:  Gaussboys.com.
4/7/2005 12:18:34 PM EDT
[#13]



We ALL knew you were wrong and were waiting for you to admit it



You gotta watch me, Krpind. It's down-right hard to keep me honest.