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1/12/2007 8:58:46 AM EDT
From SHOT on M4Carbine

1/12/2007 9:00:19 AM EDT
[#1]
DUPE





j/k


I like it but I think they said it ill be a year or two until it is released
1/12/2007 9:02:12 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
DUPE





j/k


I like it but I think they said it ill be a year or two until it is released


Is it?  I searched...
1/12/2007 9:02:23 AM EDT
[#3]
I've been drooling over this in the other thread.

Hoping they make a CT compliant version, and I will definitely buy one!
1/12/2007 9:04:03 AM EDT
[#4]
That fucking rocks.
1/12/2007 9:05:52 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
That fucking rocks.


you don't already have one?!
1/12/2007 9:06:28 AM EDT
[#6]
Yep it's a dupe,  estimated 18 months out and $1400   IBTL

ETA, other thread is still on page one
1/12/2007 9:06:47 AM EDT
[#7]
Looks interesting.
1/12/2007 9:08:02 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
DUPE





j/k


I like it but I think they said it ill be a year or two until it is released


Is it?  I searched...



It was in the tech forum and the Shot Show picture thread. Not titled so would not come up in the search.

I think I may have to save up my pennies for this one
1/12/2007 9:08:27 AM EDT
[#9]
Nothing against magpul, but this just doesnt really appeal to me. To be fair I must admit that my mind may change if I ever get the chance to handle one.
1/12/2007 9:10:28 AM EDT
[#11]
It depends on price but it does look a little bit better than MGI's so I might be interested
1/12/2007 9:11:05 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Nothing against magpul, but this just doesnt really appeal to me. To be fair I must admit that my mind may change if I ever get the chance to handle one.





I'll bet money it will change your mind. As you can tell from my other posts on this I like it just a little bit. They may have to drag me away from the Magpul booth when the show is over.


1/12/2007 9:14:34 AM EDT
[#13]
I'll get one.
1/12/2007 9:16:23 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Yep it's a dupe,  estimated 18 months out and $1400   IBTL

ETA, other thread is still on page one


I will buy one.  Maybe 2.  One for an SBR and one in the SPR config.
1/12/2007 9:17:57 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
I'll get one.


IF they make a semi-auto only version AND semi-autos aren't banned by then.
1/12/2007 9:33:07 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'll get one.


IF they make a semi-auto only version AND semi-autos aren't banned by then.


They make a semi only civie legal one.
1/12/2007 9:38:20 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'll get one.


IF they make a semi-auto only version AND semi-autos aren't banned by then.


They make a semi only civie legal one.


I have no doubt that MagPul will make them for US.  They're good people.
1/12/2007 9:50:19 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Is it?  I searched...






ETA:  Saddam is dead too!  He was executed!
1/12/2007 9:54:05 AM EDT
[#19]
I looks damn cool


Hopefully the price will be reasonable and it will function well.
1/12/2007 9:54:44 AM EDT
[#20]
dang, I really like the looks of that.

Is MSRP really 1400$?

That doesn't strike me as being at all bad looking through that spec list.
1/12/2007 10:00:04 AM EDT
[#21]
Well that's an unfortunate choice of name. Everybody died / commited suicide there.
Should have called it 'Spartan' or 'Alamo' or 'Corregidor' or 'Chosin'. At least those folks died fighting.


Nice looking weapon, though. Blend of AR, AK, FN-FAL, even a touch of M-60 in the buttstock.
1/12/2007 10:05:53 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Well that's an unfortunate choice of name. Everybody died / commited suicide there.


They may as well have called it the Magpul Waco


Here's a much more critical thread in the AR forum along with the picture of Mr. Bald Multicam Head:
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=310266
1/12/2007 10:16:22 AM EDT
[#23]
IT also bears a resemblance to an HK G36. Nice blending.
1/12/2007 10:17:40 AM EDT
[#24]
Um, wow. That is the coolest rifle I have ever seen.
1/12/2007 10:19:54 AM EDT
[#25]
I'm having the same reaction to this that I had over the XCR -- I MUST have one, but I'll probably never get around to it.

$1400 buys a lot of ammo and mags.
1/12/2007 10:21:55 AM EDT
[#26]
Just to keep it up top:





What is known so far. People at shot said the representatives are saying ~ 18 months. The amount of ~ $1400 keeps getting kicked around.


Quoted:
Lesson of the Masada...
It is better to die than to live as slaves.

In any case this Masada came about after we gave up working on a polymer lower and upper sometime ago.

About 3 months ago we just decided to start with a clean sheet of paper and the current Masada is the result.

Upper is 7000 series ALU with internal steel (bearing surface) rails.

We sucessfully test fired the rifle just five days ago.

here is a PDF of the inside features...
www.magpul.com/Masada_inside.pdf



Quoted:

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In all honesty the Masada is nothing more than a G36 with a one piece lower and using AR15 barrels.


It's nice that it's something sort of new, but I just doesn't do it for me in it's current form.


Not quite. the upper is all ALU and Steel and the barrel is no tool QD.
Drop In trigger pack, adjustable gas system, non recip charging handle and folding/stock are some other things that spring to mind.



Quoted:

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Can you tell us who is actually mfg the rifle?


The rifle was designed and built by the Magpul in house design team and only shared with a handful of people prior to Shot.
1/12/2007 10:24:30 AM EDT
[#27]
I hope they really wring it out in that 18 month timeframe... I don't buy ver. 1.0 of anything, not even something designed by the Google of firearms design, MagPul...

edit now I know the extraction is the same as the AR's which I view as a weakness. A non-reciprocating charging handle is a weak way to extract a stuck round...
1/12/2007 10:26:14 AM EDT
[#28]
I gotta get out of NY to enjoy this fine machine in all its glory.  And I have a list of NFA and no-ban goodies I'd like to acquire before we find out what the future holds in store for EBR owners.
1/12/2007 10:27:12 AM EDT
[#29]
O.k., I think it looks really cool, but I have some concerns.

(1) Is this magpul's first attempt at a firearm?  I know they produce good firearm parts, but have they ever produced an actual gun before?  If not, how would I know that it would be as reliable as, say, my Colt LE 6920?  I'd be suspicious of anyone's first entry into the gun manufacturer world, no matter how good a company.

(2) That folding stock looks like it covers the ejection port. Can it fire with the stock folded?  If not, that would be a black mark against it vis a vis the SCAR.

1/12/2007 10:27:45 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
dang, I really like the looks of that.

Is MSRP really 1400$?

That doesn't strike me as being at all bad looking through that spec list.



Especially when it looks as if it comes with a flip front sight.

The Sig abortion came with NO sights.
1/12/2007 10:30:32 AM EDT
[#31]

(1) Is this magpul's first attempt at a firearm? I know they produce good firearm parts, but have they ever produced an actual gun before? If not, how would I know that it would be as reliable as, say, my Colt LE 6920? I'd be suspicious of anyone's first entry into the gun manufacturer world, no matter how good a company.


it must be teh best ever because it looks cool, is made by people who make rubber rail covers and the bald guy in the poster has Multicam on his scalp.

1/12/2007 10:35:15 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
dang, I really like the looks of that.

Is MSRP really 1400$?

That doesn't strike me as being at all bad looking through that spec list.



Especially when it looks as if it comes with a flip front sight.

The Sig abortion came with NO sights.


See, that is what I was thinking about.  Granted I have never fired the new Sig or an SL8, but this really looks like the first non-Ar 5.56 that I would entertain paying the money for.
1/12/2007 10:35:24 AM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
O.k., I think it looks really cool, but I have some concerns.

(1) Is this magpul's first attempt at a firearm?  I know they produce good firearm parts, but have they ever produced an actual gun before?  If not, how would I know that it would be as reliable as, say, my Colt LE 6920?  I'd be suspicious of anyone's first entry into the gun manufacturer world, no matter how good a company.


if the rifle is still 18 months out, i'd imagine that most of the bugs will be worked out before any of us get one in our hands.
1/12/2007 10:35:25 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
O.k., I think it looks really cool, but I have some concerns.

(1) Is this magpul's first attempt at a firearm?  I know they produce good firearm parts, but have they ever produced an actual gun before?  If not, how would I know that it would be as reliable as, say, my Colt LE 6920?  I'd be suspicious of anyone's first entry into the gun manufacturer world, no matter how good a company.

(2) That folding stock looks like it covers the ejection port. Can it fire with the stock folded?  If not, that would be a black mark against it vis a vis the SCAR.



I am going to go ahead and guess that the guys at MagPul ensured it could be fired with the stock folded!
1/12/2007 10:35:55 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
Nothing against magpul, but this just doesnt really appeal to me. To be fair I must admit that my mind may change if I ever get the chance to handle one.


You know, at first I thought the same thing.  I though, eh, it's ok, but an ar15 is just as cool ect.  The more I look at it, and after going over that poster thing seeing everything that it has, I like it.  A lot.  Too bad I'm too poor to even afford an Ar .
1/12/2007 10:47:18 AM EDT
[#36]
One day I will own one.  That absolutely rocks!

HH
1/12/2007 10:49:29 AM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
O.k., I think it looks really cool, but I have some concerns.

(1) Is this magpul's first attempt at a firearm?  I know they produce good firearm parts, but have they ever produced an actual gun before?  If not, how would I know that it would be as reliable as, say, my Colt LE 6920?  I'd be suspicious of anyone's first entry into the gun manufacturer world, no matter how good a company.


if the rifle is still 18 months out, i'd imagine that most of the bugs will be worked out before any of us get one in our hands.


That's not quite my concern.  My concern is their experience in doing something like this.  Would this weapon survive the same types of tests that Colt or FN or HK do in delivering rifles to the U.S. army or other major armies?  What round count does this thing fail at under extreme conditions?  Things like that.
1/12/2007 10:50:11 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

(1) Is this magpul's first attempt at a firearm? I know they produce good firearm parts, but have they ever produced an actual gun before? If not, how would I know that it would be as reliable as, say, my Colt LE 6920? I'd be suspicious of anyone's first entry into the gun manufacturer world, no matter how good a company.


it must be teh best ever because it looks cool, is made by people who make rubber rail covers and the bald guy in the poster has Multicam on his scalp.



Well you just proved that you don't know shit about MagPul... congrats.
1/12/2007 10:52:10 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
Lesson of the Masada...
It is better to die than to live as slaves.



Could you like, tell our government that? Cause you know, I think they forgot or something.

ETA: sweet rifle.
1/12/2007 10:54:30 AM EDT
[#40]
[BruceAlmighty]

B, E, A, UTiful!

[/BruceAlmighty]
1/12/2007 10:56:30 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:
O.k., I think it looks really cool, but I have some concerns.

(1) Is this magpul's first attempt at a firearm?  I know they produce good firearm parts, but have they ever produced an actual gun before?  If not, how would I know that it would be as reliable as, say, my Colt LE 6920?  I'd be suspicious of anyone's first entry into the gun manufacturer world, no matter how good a company.

(2) That folding stock looks like it covers the ejection port. Can it fire with the stock folded?  If not, that would be a black mark against it vis a vis the SCAR.



I am going to go ahead and guess that the guys at MagPul ensured it could be fired with the stock folded!


From the poster pic it looks like the stock is specifically built NOT to interfere with ejection when it is folded.
1/12/2007 11:00:20 AM EDT
[#42]
Haha Perfect
I was thinking you know what MASADA should stand for


Modular
Accurate
Semi
Auto
Defensive
Arm


Or how about

Modular
Assault
System
And
defensive
Arm/application


Come on Magpul send me some free stuff for coming up with it!
1/12/2007 11:02:54 AM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
O.k., I think it looks really cool, but I have some concerns.

(1) Is this magpul's first attempt at a firearm?  I know they produce good firearm parts, but have they ever produced an actual gun before?  If not, how would I know that it would be as reliable as, say, my Colt LE 6920?  I'd be suspicious of anyone's first entry into the gun manufacturer world, no matter how good a company.

(2) That folding stock looks like it covers the ejection port. Can it fire with the stock folded?  If not, that would be a black mark against it vis a vis the SCAR.



I am going to go ahead and guess that the guys at MagPul ensured it could be fired with the stock folded!


From the poster pic it looks like the stock is specifically built NOT to interfere with ejection when it is folded.
1/12/2007 11:03:20 AM EDT
[#44]
Looks pretty kick ass, but I'm sick of seeing cool things that don't come out for another x-amount of month/years, etc.

So now I need a ps90, masada, and maybe a sig55x if they can make it look like the original.

1/12/2007 11:05:31 AM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well that's an unfortunate choice of name. Everybody died / commited suicide there.


They may as well have called it the Magpul Waco


Here's a much more critical thread in the AR forum along with the picture of Mr. Bald Multicam Head:
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=310266



It's actually an excellent name.  Masada was the epitome of the creed, "live free or die."
1/12/2007 11:05:57 AM EDT
[#46]
I'm just looking at this pic here and wondering...

...why wouldn't they make the pistol grip so that it could accept the interchangeable backstraps from the MIAD grips? It accepts the MIAD core. That seems like a no brainer to me.
1/12/2007 11:09:53 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:

(1) Is this magpul's first attempt at a firearm? I know they produce good firearm parts, but have they ever produced an actual gun before? If not, how would I know that it would be as reliable as, say, my Colt LE 6920? I'd be suspicious of anyone's first entry into the gun manufacturer world, no matter how good a company.


it must be teh best ever because it looks cool, is made by people who make rubber rail covers and the bald guy in the poster has Multicam on his scalp.



Well you just proved that you don't know shit about MagPul... congrats.


Healthy skepticism keeps me from buying junk that I later regret.
I like MagPul for some of its products, especially my choice CTR.

But, how many rifles has MagPul brought to market?
1/12/2007 11:17:35 AM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
I'm just looking at this pic here and wondering...

...why wouldn't they make the pistol grip so that it could accept the interchangeable backstraps from the MIAD grips? It accepts the MIAD core. That seems like a no brainer to me.


Actually that's a VERY good question...
1/12/2007 11:21:01 AM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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Well that's an unfortunate choice of name. Everybody died / commited suicide there.


They may as well have called it the Magpul Waco


Here's a much more critical thread in the AR forum along with the picture of Mr. Bald Multicam Head:
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=310266



It's actually an excellent name.  Masada was the epitome of the creed, "live free or die."
What part of SUICIDE don't you get. They didn't win. They took a philosophical and physical stand THEN KILLED THEMSELVES.  Sure. That's a great example to follow. Didn't win. Didn't even take a good chunk of their enemies with them.
Even worse - the folks on Masada were attacking their own people, as well as the Romans, before the Romans finally had enough and prepared to crush them. THEN THEY KILLED THEMSELVES.

'Masada' as an example of 'taking a stand' looks an dsounds good at first glance, but the realities of what happened there do not make it a worthy example or name IMAO, particularly not in terms of the RKBA fight here in America.  In fact I think it is more in line with defeatist fan-fiction predicting a future america where RKBA advocates are hunted down like stray dogs.


Problem with modern america - lot of lip-flapping and next to nothing being done to actually defeat our enemies foreign and domestic. We'll congratulate ourselves for 'taking a stand' and 'fighting the good fight', meanwhile the AWB is shoved up our asses for its full 10yr span and allowed to expire instead of being reversed by a supposedly Republican-controlled Congress. Instead the cretinous LIARS of Brady / VPC / HCI / whomever are allowed to continue spreading their garbage effectively unchallenged. But hey, 'we're fighting the good fight' / 'taking a stand.'
feh.
1/12/2007 11:21:25 AM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
I'm just looking at this pic here and wondering...

...why wouldn't they make the pistol grip so that it could accept the interchangeable backstraps from the MIAD grips? It accepts the MIAD core. That seems like a no brainer to me.


I would prefer it if the made the ENTIRE grip modular (like the AR ).
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