[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Magpul taking a beating... (Page 1 of 7)
Posted: 4/17/2012 9:43:30 PM EDT
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I like the products still they are good stuff.
I still hold out hope for the ACR to one day be the rifle they set out to make it. I'm not sure on who did what to the project overall but I suspect bushmaster made some changes for the mass production for cost wise instead of producing what they wanted to do originally. Until that day it will always be my unicorn in the firearms industry. |
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Quoted: I like the products still they are good stuff. I still hold out hope for the ACR to one day be the rifle they set out to make it. I'm not sure on who did what to the project overall but I suspect bushmaster made some changes for the mass production for cost wise instead of producing what they wanted to do originally. Until that day it will always be my unicorn in the firearms industry. speaking of unicorns  |
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Having owned their products, I have no doubts about their quality or value. Having handled a bushhamster ACR, I do have some doubts about their judgment.  Not really. Producing a rifle is an ENORMOUS step up from making even the fanciest injection-molded rifle furniture. A misstep could have taken the entire company down. Can't say I blame them for selling it off to Bushmaster. Too bad the ACR got "Shrubmastered" in the process, but it is what it is. Guess I can't get too worked up about it because I was never foaming at the mouth for the much touted "AR killer" rifle to come along. A plastic receiver and piston operating system are interesting curiosities but sure aren't some evolutionary step in small arms design. |
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Magazines - I've broken too many, I run Lancers.
Sights - I will never use plastic. Stocks - The best. Grips - The best. Replacement handguards - The best. Magpul is a great company. People go a little crazy with the whole fan boy thing, but that coin has a flip side of unjust hate too. I still get a little bitter about their compromise of the ACR, but sacrificing the ACR undoubtedly helped them expand to bring us new stuff in the timely fashion not many other companies are capable of. |
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Wait, magpul drama? WHERE? magazine forum, couple threads in there on the quality of pmags related to other magazines. I didn't even realize there was a magazine forum. Guess I'll go check it out.
Didn't realize there was THAT MUCH to talk about in regards to magazines. |
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Wait, magpul drama? WHERE? magazine forum, couple threads in there on the quality of pmags related to other magazines. That's nothing new. It's been that way since day one with Pmags. I remember near-riots over green USGI followers vs original black vs orange magpul ones (all in USGI Al mags, old skool style). |
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Quoted: Are you talking about all the purse swinging in the magazine tech forum? Some of the posters in those threads act like Magpul fucked their girlfriend. Because they mad they've got 999 aluminum mags they paid $12.99 a piece for and would rather have PMags... but can't sell their "guaranteed to increase in value" SHTF stockpile at $7 a piece to upgrade. Sour grapes in the profiteering world. |
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Magazines - I've broken too many, I run Lancers. Sights - I will never use plastic. Stocks - The best. Grips - The best. Replacement handguards - The best. Magpul is a great company. People go a little crazy with the whole fan boy thing, but that coin has a flip side of unjust hate too. I still get a little bitter about their compromise of the ACR, but sacrificing the ACR undoubtedly helped them expand to bring us new stuff in the timely fashion not many other companies are capable of. That would be the opposite experience of the majority of Rangers, SEALs, Green Berets, USAF SOF, instructors, SWAT guys, rec shooters.... What do you do with them, throw them at brick walls? |
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Sinless sorrow is trying pretty fucking hard to put words in magpul's mouth. Link? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_17/570544_PMAG_vs__Lancer_L5.html |
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It is a little known fact that the legendary PMAG strength was derived from the microstrand Costabeard particles that were mixed into every batch of polymer. Now that Costabeard is available on the open market, many other companies are surpassing Magpul in quality, strength, durability and good looks. |
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Magazines - I've broken too many, I run Lancers. Just curious, what was breaking on them and which colors/models? Black. Two spine failures and one broken feed lip. The broken feed lip was a half or so emptied magazine being dropped on concrete on a tactical reload. No major destruction, just a small crack that compromised the rigidity enough to disrupt feeding. Once the feed lip was forced back into place it was fine. The spine fractures I can't recall a specific incident which caused it and they still fed fine. The other spine fracture was likely my fault from a high drop. Magpul did replace the magazines I contacted them about promptly though. I have yet to get through more than two 10/22 high cap mags with out failure. I've seen an HK 416 magazine lose reliable spring pressure after only 300 rounds, and a USP magazine base plate break from the mag being dropped on carpet. I've had to bend the feed lips back open at some point on almost every GI mag I've owned. I've never owned a 1911 that was reliable with anything but Wilson mags. I've seen more 10 round AK mags that hold 12 rounds than the actual 10 (during AWB). I've never had a Beretta 92 magazine fail on me regardless of brand. I may just have odd luck with magazines.
ETA: Just to make it clear PMAG's are great. Were it not for AWM's they would be all I use and recommend. |
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It is a little known fact that the legendary PMAG strength was derived from the microstrand Costabeard particles that were mixed into every batch of polymer. Now that Costabeard is available on the open market, many other companies are surpassing Magpul in quality, strength, durability and good looks. 
for me, costa jumped the shark when he put his name on an expensive 1911. |