Posted: 1/1/2009 5:13:25 PM EDT
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I am interested in getting one in 9x18.
What is the going rate for these? What country of origin is best? How do they shoot? |
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I am interested in getting one in 9x18. What is the going rate for these? What country of origin is best? How do they shoot? -200-400 or there abouts -Russian=most wanted; E. German= Best quality, Bulgarian= easiest to get(cheapest), Chinese=holy shit you found one.....IMHOP -Damn good. Fucking Fantastic. Peachy. 
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They are quite accurate because of the fixed barrel. The sights are a little small. Other than that they shoot very well. The best deal is the CZ-82, which is basically a hi capacity PM (Pistoleta Makarova) slightly modified by CZ. They go for about $200.
EG has the best finish, but Bulgarian is the best value. |
| I have two, both Russian one is the double stack 10 round version with the adjustable rear sight. The other is the single stack version of the above gun. i traded a beat the hell .357 for the single stack and paid 175 for the double stack at a pawn shop. As stated above they are acurate, and I love shooting mine. I plan to start reloading for it as soon as I get up to speed better on reloading. This CZ-82 intrigues me I may look into this more. |
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I am interested in getting one in 9x18. What is the going rate for these? What country of origin is best? How do they shoot? I don't see too many of them at shows lately. I'd say that that 200-300 would be the range for most. Russian Maks will cost more. Most I've seen are Bulgarian. I have a Bulgy Mak and it's a good little pistol. You might also want to look at one of the surplus CZ-82's. They go for really cheap and are superb little handguns. EDIT –– they shoot pretty good. The DA trigger isn't great and the sights are tiny, but they work. They are built like tanks...over-engineered military issue weapons. Heavy carbon steel slides, chrome lined bores, etc. Fairly simple in construction. There's a small but vibrant aftermarket and gunsmithing services available for the Makarov pistols. You can get replacement sights, trigger jobs, and custom grips. |
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Bulgarian gets my vote since it has that really authentic Soviet look for the least money.
I sandbagged on getting one for years, and bought one almost on a whim. It was s surprise favorite. I did not expect to love mine this much. Easily one of the top 5 buys in the surplus pistol market. |
| I've had a Russian, a Bulgy and now an EG. The Mak is a neat pistol. However, I now also have a CZ82. Of the 40+ pistols I have, this is one of the best shooting. With a 12 round mag, nice ergos, and a great trigger. I shot mine quite a bit last weekend. At 15 yards it is easy to make head shots, even with my 53 year old eyes. |
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Have to agree with what's been said so far in regards to Mak quality by country and prices.
I do not own a Mak, spanked the monkey when they were *cheap* but I have fired Maks and they are not a bad pistol. I would like to own one or several and some day I'm sure I will. However, I do own a CZ-82 and I would not trade that for any Mak. Unless you are dead set on a Mak, take a look at the CZ, larger magazine capacity and cheaper is a hard combo to ignore. Whatever you choose op, hope you get a nice one. |
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They kick a good bit, has a little bite to it.
Maybe because they are blowback. Sometimes they come with 2 sets of grips. On the crappy 'shelf' grip you get, you can sand the sides down flat and glue wood veneer to them and shape with sandpaper. cheap cool wood grips. It is an historic handgun. |
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I'm not much at all familiar with Makarov's, but CDNN is having a ONE-DAY sale on these: FEG PA-63 · 9x18 Makarov · TuTone · PP Style · 1 Mag · Excellent Condition #TGIPA63LN $129.99 Hope this is worthwhile info. The FEG is not a PM. It shoots the Mak round, but is more of a PPK copy. Good guns, but not the PM. |
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I love mine: http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii286/glarms/CopyofCopyofDSCF0988.jpg?t=1231043054 I bought it just for because it was fairly cheap ,but after I shoot it I fell in love with the damn thing. Nice photo skills!! Very cool pic. vmax84 |
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I'm not much at all familiar with Makarov's, but CDNN is having a ONE-DAY sale on these: FEG PA-63 · 9x18 Makarov · TuTone · PP Style · 1 Mag · Excellent Condition #TGIPA63LN $129.99 Hope this is worthwhile info. The FEG is not a PM. It shoots the Mak round, but is more of a PPK copy. Good guns, but not the PM. My apologies. Thought I was helping you guys out. |
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CZ82 is a good pistol, but the OP asked about Makarovs. A Bulgarian is hard to beat. That'd be my first choice. +1. I think that the Bulgarian and the EG ones are identical in quality. Bulgarian are cheaper in price. They may shoot the same, but the EG is far and beyond in quality of production. The triggers are smoother(although easily done on a bulgi), the finish is a very, very nice dark blue, as the Bulgi is not machined well, and the bluing is not nearly as pretty. EG is the pretty one, thus the higher demand and price tag. |
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You are. I was just clarifying things. I bought one once when I dind't know any better.Quoted:
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I'm not much at all familiar with Makarov's, but CDNN is having a ONE-DAY sale on these: FEG PA-63 · 9x18 Makarov · TuTone · PP Style · 1 Mag · Excellent Condition #TGIPA63LN $129.99 Hope this is worthwhile info. The FEG is not a PM. It shoots the Mak round, but is more of a PPK copy. Good guns, but not the PM. My apologies. Thought I was helping you guys out.   This was before I learned the ways of the dark side of the Mak.
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I had about 10 Makarovs in the past and I loved them. I sold most of them off and only have one Bulgarian and one Russian commercial in .380 as of now.
Get the CZ-82. Higher capacity, supposedly more accurate in the 9x18 polygonal barrel CZ still makes commercial ones so parts shouldn't be a problem (though makarov parts are readily available). I've got a CZ-82 and I want more of them. The surplus ones are readily available at inexpensive prices and as mentioned are C&R. If you want a commercial one CZ-USA imports the CZ-82/83 as are the surplus ones also. CZ-83 is the .380 variant. Looks like CZ-USA no longer imports the commercial 9x18 version? |
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They kick a good bit, has a little bite to it. Maybe because they are blowback. Sometimes they come with 2 sets of grips. On the crappy 'shelf' grip you get, you can sand the sides down flat and glue wood veneer to them and shape with sandpaper. cheap cool wood grips. It is an historic handgun. Don't use any ammo bigger than 95 gr. 115 gr. ammo really leaves a nasty sting in the shooter's hand. Ask me how I know....
I got Pearce grips which are still easily available. Nice. You can also wrap skateboarders' anti-slip tape on the grip- really works well, at least until it's time for a total disassembly of the gun. |