[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Marijuana vs. Firearms (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 7/25/2014 1:40:55 PM EDT
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Why is it that so many on here think it is bullshit when someone gets busted with a joint...and call the LEO's names
But if a gun has an NFA violation they call that guy an idiot but the marijuana guy gets a pass? |
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These are two different scenarios
1) The person getting busted for the joint has already been caught by the police and people are lamenting the retarded MJ laws 2) Someone is violating an equally retarded law however they have not been caught by the police. It is a common courtesy to call someone a dumbass and let them know they can arrested for what they are doing - unknowing or not also - nice troll thread 
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Pot is a more fundamental right than the right to arms.
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Why is it that so many on here think it is bullshit when someone gets busted with a joint...and call the LEO's names But if a gun has an NFA violation they call that guy an idiot but the marijuana guy gets a pass? Or... Or... Or...you could stop thinking of individual freedoms as situational, as if you have A than you can't have B, and realize freedoms of all sort should not be infringed. Does having an NFA weapon harm another's person, property or liberty? Does an individual quietly smoking a joint in his home effect your person, property or liberty? How about we respect freedoms that no harm to others and let people live free? Why is THAT so hard? |
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These are two different scenarios 1) The person getting busted for the joint has already been caught by the police and people are lamenting the retarded MJ laws 2) Someone is violating an equally retarded law however they have not been caught by the police. It is a common courtesy to call someone a dumbass and let them know they can arrested for what they are doing - unknowing or not also - nice troll thread Not trolling...just playing captain obvious |
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Or... Or... Or...you could stop thinking of individual freedoms as situational, as if you have A than you can't have B, and realize freedoms of all sort should not be infringed. Does having an NFA weapon harm another's person, property or liberty? Does an individual quietly smoking a joint in his home effect your person, property or liberty? How about we respect freedoms that no harm to others and let people live free? Why is THAT so hard? Quoted:
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Why is it that so many on here think it is bullshit when someone gets busted with a joint...and call the LEO's names But if a gun has an NFA violation they call that guy an idiot but the marijuana guy gets a pass? Or... Or... Or...you could stop thinking of individual freedoms as situational, as if you have A than you can't have B, and realize freedoms of all sort should not be infringed. Does having an NFA weapon harm another's person, property or liberty? Does an individual quietly smoking a joint in his home effect your person, property or liberty? How about we respect freedoms that no harm to others and let people live free? Why is THAT so hard? Damn even the Skinny's get it!!!! |
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Ironically, I had this conversation with a cop today.
Talking about Class III firearms, he stated that if I were only going to use a suppressor on my own property, why bother registering it? 
I explained to him that should LEO's come to my home and see it, I am taking a ride to a jail cell if I do not register it-- and for the price of $200, I can avoid that. NFA is an idiotic law, but I pick my battles. If I am going to assume the risk of breaking a law, it will be for more than $200 and making a point. I have a 3 year-old that I don't want seeing me through glass for the next several years. |
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Why is it that so many on here think it is bullshit when someone gets busted with a joint...and call the LEO's names But if a gun has an NFA violation they call that guy an idiot but the marijuana guy gets a pass? Their drug use is more important to many here than our firearms rights. |
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Quoted: Why does it have to be versus? |
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Seems the opposite to me. Everyone knows marijuana is illegal. You don't accidentally smoke weed. But the NFA is absurd, like a lot of gun laws. A lot of people break length restrictions without even intending to. I'd also have to with this. Add in the patchwork quilt of state gun laws we have here and you can easily find yourself behind bars out of sheer ignorance. I live in PA, work in NJ, and all I will say is I am damn lucky I'm not rotting in some NJ state prison at the moment.. 
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Getting caught with pot isn't a felony. Nfa violations are and will result in you losing the right to own a firearm forever. Yet, felony or not, the NFA is an unjust law; disregard it and you are told here that you "are playing stupid games". People who disregard federal law to get high on marijuana are "freedom fighters" and it is an unjust, but nevertheless, serious, crime to lie about the use of marijuana when filling out a 4473 which will also result in you losing your right to legally own to own a firearm forever. The same goes when a state enacts gun laws that are less restrictive than federal law; the GD pothead crowd scoffs at and denigrates those state laws as being useless in the face of the supremacy of federal law. When states do the same regarding drug use; they rejoice and claim that drugs are now "legal" in those states. Although the ARFcom dope rights crowd denies it, there's a double standard among the doper crowd here with drug use being more important than gun rights. |
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Smoking Pot makes you stupid! This shit again? Gonna accuse and throw names at any one who disagrees with you? Or are you going to intelligently articulate your position? Funny how the 13er from Somolia understands liberty... I don't smoke, don't drink hard alcohol, don't chew, don't drink raw milk, but I do support a consenting adult's choice to do so. That is what liberty is. Wanting the government to outlaw something you don't like is statism. Pure and simple. |
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Umm yeah. Don't trying to drag people into your little green loser light.  Quoted:
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For my state. Its in our culture. If someone hasn't smoked weed at least once they are definitely in the weird column. Umm yeah. Don't trying to drag people into your little green loser light. Whatever. That's how it is in my state. Don't like it don't move here.
FWIW I don't smoke weed. |
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Quoted: Or... Or... Or...you could stop thinking of individual freedoms as situational, as if you have A than you can't have B, and realize freedoms of all sort should not be infringed. Does having an NFA weapon harm another's person, property or liberty? Does an individual quietly smoking a joint in his home effect your person, property or liberty? How about we respect freedoms that no harm to others and let people live free? Why is THAT so hard? Quoted: Quoted: Why is it that so many on here think it is bullshit when someone gets busted with a joint...and call the LEO's names But if a gun has an NFA violation they call that guy an idiot but the marijuana guy gets a pass? Or... Or... Or...you could stop thinking of individual freedoms as situational, as if you have A than you can't have B, and realize freedoms of all sort should not be infringed. Does having an NFA weapon harm another's person, property or liberty? Does an individual quietly smoking a joint in his home effect your person, property or liberty? How about we respect freedoms that no harm to others and let people live free? Why is THAT so hard? |
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Yet, felony or not, the NFA is an unjust law; disregard it and you are told here that you "are playing stupid games". People who disregard federal law to get high on marijuana are "freedom fighters" and it is an unjust, but nevertheless, serious, crime to lie about the use of marijuana when filling out a 4473 which will also result in you losing your right to legally own to own a firearm forever. The same goes when a state enacts gun laws that are less restrictive than federal law; the GD pothead crowd scoffs at and denigrates those state laws as being useless in the face of the supremacy of federal law. When states do the same regarding drug use; they rejoice and claim that drugs are now "legal" in those states. Although the ARFcom dope rights crowd denies it, there's a double standard among the doper crowd here with drug use being more important than gun rights. Quoted:
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Getting caught with pot isn't a felony. Nfa violations are and will result in you losing the right to own a firearm forever. Yet, felony or not, the NFA is an unjust law; disregard it and you are told here that you "are playing stupid games". People who disregard federal law to get high on marijuana are "freedom fighters" and it is an unjust, but nevertheless, serious, crime to lie about the use of marijuana when filling out a 4473 which will also result in you losing your right to legally own to own a firearm forever. The same goes when a state enacts gun laws that are less restrictive than federal law; the GD pothead crowd scoffs at and denigrates those state laws as being useless in the face of the supremacy of federal law. When states do the same regarding drug use; they rejoice and claim that drugs are now "legal" in those states. Although the ARFcom dope rights crowd denies it, there's a double standard among the doper crowd here with drug use being more important than gun rights. This all day long |
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Anyone who gets themselves busted is likely to be an idiot, and both NFA laws and prohibition are bullshit. False dichotomies are worse, though, and doing this thread two days in a row is even worse than that. Not a false dichotomy at all. How do pot heads rationalize states like CO and CA? I'm truly interested in this answer. |
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Have you taken enough notes to notice a pattern that individuals who will raise a hue and cry for a marijuana arrest but will tut-tut someone with illegal NFA? Personally, I do neither. Both activities/inanimate objects should be legal and minimally regulated. Perhaps because there are still some here who are more focused on gun rights than they are on drug rights, because this is still a firearms enthusiasts' forum rather than High Times or NORML. I'd like to see some of that "pattern of hue and cry" for marijuana arrests. Since you have "taken enough notes" to notice such "a pattern" you should have no problem providing numerous links to support your assertion. 
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This shit again? Gonna accuse and throw names at any one who disagrees with you? Or are you going to intelligently articulate your position? Funny how the 13er from Somolia understands liberty... I don't smoke, don't drink hard alcohol, don't chew, don't drink raw milk, but I do support a consenting adult's choice to do so. That is what liberty is. Wanting the government to outlaw something you don't like is statism. Pure and simple. Quoted:
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Smoking Pot makes you stupid! This shit again? Gonna accuse and throw names at any one who disagrees with you? Or are you going to intelligently articulate your position? Funny how the 13er from Somolia understands liberty... I don't smoke, don't drink hard alcohol, don't chew, don't drink raw milk, but I do support a consenting adult's choice to do so. That is what liberty is. Wanting the government to outlaw something you don't like is statism. Pure and simple. Are you mad bro? |
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This shit again? Gonna accuse and throw names at any one who disagrees with you? Or are you going to intelligently articulate your position? Funny how the 13er from Somolia understands liberty... I don't smoke, don't drink hard alcohol, don't chew, don't drink raw milk, but I do support a consenting adult's choice to do so. That is what liberty is. Wanting the government to outlaw something you don't like is statism. Pure and simple. Quoted:
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Smoking Pot makes you stupid! This shit again? Gonna accuse and throw names at any one who disagrees with you? Or are you going to intelligently articulate your position? Funny how the 13er from Somolia understands liberty... I don't smoke, don't drink hard alcohol, don't chew, don't drink raw milk, but I do support a consenting adult's choice to do so. That is what liberty is. Wanting the government to outlaw something you don't like is statism. Pure and simple. The question posed by the OP is why do many on GD support "marijuana rights" more vigorously than they support gun rights? It's a valid question than wasn't addressed by all that high horse bullshit. Quoted:
Why is it that so many on here think it is bullshit when someone gets busted with a joint...and call the LEO's names But if a gun has an NFA violation they call that guy an idiot but the marijuana guy gets a pass? |