Posted: 4/26/2005 12:19:06 AM EDT
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www.freeenergynews.com/directory/transportation/williegreen/index.html More engine math stuff....  www.macdizzy.com/formulas.htm |
3 laws of thermodynamics: - You can't exceed 100% efficiency in doing any work i.e. you can't get more out than you put in. - You can't even get to 100% - You can't even get close. Therefore, claims of "1400% efficiency" = massive BS. My .02. Merlin |
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I'm always willing to consider magical engines, but they always let me down. So far the laws of thermodynamics seem to be pretty consistent on this issue. Jim |
Um, the last sentence is true, but it completely contradicts the claimed data right above it, if I'm reading it right.
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Woah, a topic I feel knowledgeable about (unlike spelling). Ok, he claims a 1400% ratio of work in to work out. Wout/Win=14 Right? Well efficiency is Wnet/Qin or The net work of the system over the amount of heat put into the system. So without doing any math, that claim of high work ratio could happen I guess, but there is still gobs of heat that must be used, thus lots of fuel. lemme look at it some more and Ill edit more in. EDIT Ok, there is nothing on that site that gives me anything I can use. It is all conversions and straight formulas that I havent learned yet. But he is still not using the right efficiency formula. work out should always be more than work in, other wise you dont get anywhere. But it is the thermal input that he is not using. Maybe I dont understand what he is saying, but it all looks like he is making the number say what he wants to hear. |
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Put it this way. If you get 1400 units of energy out for 100 units of energy put in, then you could recycle 100 units of the 1400 to power the machine. It would then run forever, pumping out 1300 units of energy every cycle. The site is either playing the numbers game on purpose (throw down a lot of math looking stuff and hope the gullible will buy it) or they don't knwo what they're talking about at all and are copying constants and formulas from the inside cover of a first year thermodynamics text. Jim |