[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Meth Lab Stories?? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 11/30/2004 9:15:53 PM EDT
| During my Thanksgiving travels I went through Bellville, KS. Belleville used to have a population of about 3500 but now it's down to about 1400 people. As you come into town, I saw a sign much like the neighborhood crimewatch signs only this sign said MethWatch Neighborhood. This is a rural farming community. Anyway I thought maybe our LEO's might be willing to share some stories about Meth Labs again. |
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Sorry to hear of Belleville. I've never actually been there but have watched various pieces about it on TV when they once showed the famous "Belleville Midget Nationals." It looked like a really nice place. And I thought we were meth central.<G> Dennis Jenkins
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| Roving cooks seems to be the new big thing here. Cook travels one one location to the next, cooks his batch, and leaves an ounce or so with the property owner as rent. Good system. One cook can cover a lot of ground and none of the risks of transporting large quantities of finished product by vehicle. |
| I saw a skanky chick one night a few years ago who came into the hospital because she drank Drano. It turns out she was working in a Meth Lab and picked up a glass she thought was her drink, but it was full of Drano instead. The NaOH in Drano is apparently used in the manufacture of crystal meth. Stupid beotch. |
I think the draincleaner is normally used to make ice which is more of a gel type of meth. Its not the top of the line stuff but ths what seems to be around here alot. I saw a cat get into someones stash, chewed through the corner of the bag, it must have not gotten much, it lived, but acted strange. |
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This happened about 4 years ago. A new guy moved into the apartment above me and it seemed like he was always leaving and coming back to his apartment. Since the outside staircase runs along my bedroom wall and he generally RAN the stairs I would be awakened numerous times at all hours of the night. I made some inquiries and found out he was a maintenance guy for the complex so I figured that accounted for his coming and going all the time. One Sunday morning I'm awakened by what sounds like furniture being thrown around in the apartment above me followed by sounds of a guy and girl laughing. I then hear (feel) the familiar running down the outside stairwell. For some reason, this made me really uneasy so I got up, got dressed, gathered my shoes, wallet, keys, and cellphone and put them near the front door and went back to bed. I also noted a slight burning smell that I attributed to my imagination at 5:00 in the morning. 30 minutes to an hour later I hear more thumping and what sounds like a string of firecrackers going off above me. I'm thinking this assholes now lighting firecrackers up there? I go to my patio door and peer through the blinds and I notice that the concrete walkway has a strange "orange" glow to it and my next-door neighbor is standing out there looking at the apartment above me with his mouth wide open. I run outside and look up and there are flames roaring out of the apartment and over the roof. For some reason I realized that my truck was parked in a cul-de-sac and would be completely blocked in by emergency vehicles so I grabbed my phone, keys, wallet, and shoes and ran to my truck and moved it to the other side of the parking lot. After HAZMAT showed up I began to get suspicious but was unable to talk to any emergency personnel until 4:30 p.m. I went back for the medication I needed but forgot and the cop and HAZMAT guy let me go into my apartment. Of course, the power was out, the front door was busted open by the fire department, and there was approximately 4-6 inches of water covering the entire floor. I asked the HAZMAT guy if they had determined the cause of the fire and he pointed to a pile of burned buckets, jars, and chemical bottles. I asked if that stuff consituted a meth lab and he confirmed it did. Luckily, the only thing I lost was cheap pair of shoes I didn't want to bother cleaning. Someone (I assume the fire department guys but I'm not sure) pulled all of the my belongings to the center of each room and covered them with large plastic tarps. I later heard from one of the other maintenance guys that the asshole who started the fire was not only not charged but was actually back hanging around in the complex a few weeks later. |
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A lot of the farmers around my area are starting to put the pink additive in their ammonia. Pretty funny to see junkies walking around town with pink stains. Mobile labs are big in my county. At least one a month goes up in flames in a local state park. There's one town just south of me that is infested with several labs in the trailer park. The village constable looks the other way, as he has for years. This was the place a couple of years ago where a kid was draining some solvent in the bathtub on a 90 degree day. He went to turn on an old fan to air out the fumes and the arc of the switch ignited the vapor. Blew out all four walls of the trailer and the kid was in the yard dousing himself with water from the garden hose when the FD pulled up. He died several hours later. The blast was so strong it blew a little kid off his bike across the street. Morons. All of em'. |
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We were told of an incident where a lab under surveillance was in an old house on top of a small hill. It had a basement door leading out into the yard. One of the rocket scientists took a break outside that door and lit up a cigarette. Unfortunately for him, the fumes coing from the lab were heavier than air and had gathered at the building's foundation. Ether I think. The resulting blast was quite a sight. One less problem. |
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I live in an upscale, gated community. Approx 4 years ago, one of my neighbors (6 houses down) received a job offer which required her to move to Kalifornia within 6 weeks of the offer. Rather than put her house on the market, she decided to try the "executive rental" thing. She found a clean cut young guy willing to pay her monthly fee and she was off to LALA land. 12 weeks later, the armed spooks in black pajamas were all over the neighbors house, kicked in the door and hauled 3 people to jail. All the stay at home moms in my neighborhood are better than guard dogs.  They kept noticing cars coming and going throughout the day almost every day so the called the cops. As it turns out, the clean cut Mercedes driving young guy was a meth chef!Bottom line. It can happen anywhere. 
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The meth labs are extremely dangerous. The chemicals are very toxic. Making it makes the chemists clothes smell like cat piss. The assholes that make that crap don't care about themselves or anyone else. All they care about is quick money. That's why they send in Hazmat teams to clean them up. |
Got a picture of the cat... 
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Not quite. The older P2P method was much more dangerous, and more toxic. The newer "cold cook" or "Nazi method" is not quite as dangerous or as explosive, but still generates lots of nasty, hazardous waste. Either method can generate fumes and chemicals that can seep into the wood and qypsum wallboards, and it is frequent that cookers pour waste chemicals out in the yard, contaminating the soil and the groundwater. Even an old "cook" that hasn't been active for a while gives me an immediate splitting headache, and cookers I have arrested all seem to be in very poor health with lots of chemical burns, unhealed sores, rotting teeth and all kinds of other obvious health problems that make them look like the mutant survivors of some kind of nuclear apocalypse. This stuff is nasty. A good example on cleanups that I can think of were some folks we hit earlier this year who had four or five cooks going simultaneously, and had the garage converted to a Marihuana grow. We thought we were dealing with one old, non-active cook and were a bit suprised to find so many active labs when we made entry. While the state team came out and handled the labs, I am pretty sure that there was some pretty extensive hazmat cleanup on the walls and framing of the house and excavating the yard (costs borne by the lienholder on the loan for the house) before the house was habitable again. And these folks had kids living in the house with them, which was relatively neat and clean if one discounted the active meth labs or the bags of meth hidden in the crib with the infant. This one was also right across the street from a school, and the rocket scientist cooker got busted for doing a cook in a hotel while out on bail, probably to pay his lawyer. He is SCREWED. |
| No direct stories, but i have a friend who's a Deputy in bum-fuck Oklahoma, his brother is a detective in the largest town in his county. Detective is full time drug labs, 99% is Meth labs. Friend is on Sheriffs version of SWAT (SRO they call it), they raid Meth labs every month. I was shocked when they filed me in on the problem in what i thought was bucolic normal America. |
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Just the other day our secretary came in and told us her daughters ex-boyfriend was dead. And that's a GOOD thing. Here's the story... The guy was doing/cooking meth in his home, and I guess they use antifreeze for it. Well to make it look less like a meth house he hid the antifreeze in gatorade bottles in the refridgerator.... Later on sometime he got really high and went to the fridge to get a drink of what he thought was gatorade. Chugged some down, was home alone, probably too scared or stoned to go anywhere or call 911 and died. Was found in the house a couple days later. |
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I received the training on how to take down a meth lab but we never had a lab to take down before I left the department. I think the first lab to get busted was about 4 years later. The only reason why it was found is because the guy blew up up his trailer. Now they are busting one every couple of months. I do have a friend in Kalifornia who had an old farm house he would rent out. Rents to some guy first couple of months rent came in on time. THen the rent quit coming went to evict him. When the deputys showed up the house had something like three labs cooking in the house. Because of toxic issues. He had to have the entire plumbing system in the house replaced. The septic system had to be dug up and replaced, inlcuding the surronding dirt. It cost him somewhere around $50,000 for the repairs. Insurance does not cover this. |
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In nearby Henry county there was a meth cooker who was known (had all sorts of vehicles, toys, etc. and no visible means of support). In a small town, it doesn't take too long for word to travel. The police executed a search warrant and arrest warrant and caught up with him driving a stolen pickup truck for whatever reason. Throw another charge on the barbie, mate. In any event, the interesting part of this story is his methlab. He had it located in the back woods on a piece of farmground. He used a backhoe to bury a school bus and then he cut a hole in the top for a hatch. Talk about an "underground" lab! |
More to the point, why are there so many on this very board who want this sort of thing legalized? |
Who wants to see Meth legalized? |
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Not in a raid on one, but responded to a fire at a lab. Only problem was, we didn't know it at the time! We get a call for a possible housefire in Sugarland, (Boogerland to those in the know) which is the old part of town, complete w/ 70's style houses, and sections of somewhat questionable townhomes. We pull up in front of this townhouse, moderate smoke pushing out through an open lower level window. The LT and two guys grab a line, and go to the door, while my buddy & I SCOTT up and grab tools and a line to act as RIT if needed. Using the 'try before you pry', the front door opens up and they go in. Next thing I know, here come all three, trying their best to do a Three Stooges/Keystone Kops routine, as all three try to get back out the door at the same time!  Turns out, one of the neighborhoods less-than-stellar residents was cooking up and it caught fire. Our guys had gone in to find themselves amidst umpteen drums and jugs of ethyl-methyl-badstuff, with a good fire rocking close by. Discretion took over and they hauled ass!  I got to play with the deckgun, as we decided that was the best/safest route!  And yes, boydid that place stink! |
It can be smoked, injected, snorted or swallowed(Gut bomb). Smoking seems to be the preferred method. It's a stimulant and a euphoric, like cocaine, with a much longer duration of effects, and none of the risk of sudden cardiac failure attributed to Cocaine. It's extremely hard to overdose on Meth. Typical tweeker around here is some bleached blonde, fake boobed, pam anderson clone, stripper or actress. It's a lifestyle drug. |
I do. Along with every other currently illegal drug, plus alcohol and tobacco. Complete full legalization, not some half assed decriminalization. |
A Drug company could turn Meth out with such economy of scale as to put the home chemist out of business. The drug companies could turn this crap out cheaper than candy, pennies on the dollar. Of course some laws would have to be passed preventing dipshits who use this shit to file suit for their own stupidity. |
That's a common misconception. Drug companies are for profit companies. They have the charge high enough prices to recoup development dollars, fund future research, and cover risk management. Good ICE quality meth sells for $20.00 a gram. If you use 1/10th a gram at a time, thats only $2.00 a dose. Now way Dow Corning meth is gonna cost less than biker meth. |
I don't know how people use meth. I would guess that they probably use all of the methods that you mentioned. On an intersesting note, the effect of methamphetamine is essentially indistinguishable from other amphetamines like dextroamphetamine. Apparently, the effect is also subjectively indistinguishable from cocaine. Dextroamphetamine is a very effective treatment for adult ADD. In appropriate dosages--which vary depending on the severity of the ADD--it doesn't produce a "high" in a person with ADD. The only real effect is that the person feels "normal," i.e., they can concentrate on tasks, manage their time, and remember appointments/deadlines like a "normal" person. Dextroamphetamine is in the same controlled-substance category as methamphetamine and cocaine. That's why it's such a pain in the butt to get prescriptions. No refills and a doctor can prescribe only a 30-day supply at one time. I would imagine that an adult with moderate to severe ADD would probably not get much of a high, if any, from methamphetamine or cocaine unless they took it in massive doses that would probably kill them. |
Not me, but it's probably not too far away, as my state just legalized "medical" marijuana. 
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A 100 count bottle of dextroamphetamine 5 mg goes for about $16 wholesale - about $0.32 for a 10 mg dose. Methamphetamine is equally cheap to produce. |
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I'm not sure why, but Meth use and Meth labs have skyrocketed in Utah during the past few years. I guess the users are called "tweakers". It seems that many, if not most, of them are women around here. I've been told that a lot of women use Meth to lose weight. |
Women like meth because it helps them lose weight and makes them horney. Or so I have been told by the several thousand tweeker chicks i have interviewed. |
Horney?! Too bad there isn't a "safe for consumer" variant manufactured by drug companies. (kidding, of course) |
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...uncle slaton's got his texan pride back in the thickets with his asian bride hes got an airstream trailer and a holstein cow still makes whiskey cuz he still knows how plays that chocktaw bingo every friday night you know he had to leave texas but he won't say why he owns a quarter section up by lake ufalla caught a great big ol bluecat on a driftin jugline sells his hardwood timber to the chippin mill cooks that crystal meth cuz his shine don't sell he cooks that crystal meth cuz his shine don't sell you know he likes that money, he don't mind the smell... |
It causes permanent changes to the brain, and users begin exhibiting weird behavior called "Tweaking" IIRC. People tweaking will sit down, disassemble their toaster, and reassemble it, for three days straight. Weird, repetitive behavior. |
It might help them temporarily lose weight, but I'll bet that a soon as they're off it, they gain it all back and then some. On top of that, they're now addicted to an illegal substance. I imagine that would tend to put a damper on life. In any case, starvation as a weight-loss strategy tends to wreak havoc on your vitals. As for the skyrocketing use in Utah, I noticed that there is definitely a cultural thing going on there with women trying to do everything and do it perfectly and look perfect while doing it. I can see how meth could cause a person to lose weight. With dextroamphetamine you have to remind yourself to eat or else you never will. Which reminds me... [looks around for something to eat for lunch]
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Your kiddin me?? Half grams of average shit is 50 bucks in these parts. You have one of 2 problems... 1) Your in a distinct position to become very, very addicted or 2) Your local law enforcement is seriously undervalueing it Dunno if your price comes from experience or "through the grapevine" though so cant say which is true. |
Correct, tweekers all like to believe they are master electricians/ master mechanics. I believe it has more to do with the sleep depravation than the drugs. I know chicks who use tweek and then spend 8 hours cleaning the bathroom. The guys are usually the ones tearing apart the dash of their car looking for hidden camera's and microphones. 
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My price comes from arresting dealers and users 42 -60 hours a week. I'm in So Cal, competition has brought the prices way down here. Tweekers can buy from Mexican illegals, Riverside bikers, Costa Mesa Skins. It's a buyers market. Nobody is paying more than $20.00 a gram and it better be excellent quality glass or you wont get repeat customers. |
Dear fucking God. Thats insane. I'm so glad I wasnt using there. I'd probably still be using, or be dead. 
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