[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Milk (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/13/2008 4:52:17 AM EDT
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Yeah, I'm bored and posting random crap. Anyone else having a problem digesting milk these days? I think it's my age (35) or maybe it's the added chemicals, but one glass of skim, 1%, or 2% leads to a LOT of gas and diarrhea. Am I getting old or what? |
Try organic milk from the local health food stores. Grass fed Jersey cows make better milk anyway and BGH is naaaaaasty. That and you're supporting a local business and local farmer. Give it a shot, worth every penny. |
Well, you are getting old (AARP application show up yet?)  But I'd say you're developing a lactose intolerance. |
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I hated milk for years it just grossed me out. I always drank 2% for the most part then went through a phase of drinking whole cause that's all my SO wanted. Now we drink 1% and love it. We have a brand of milk here called Monument Farms and it's the best. We go through probably 4 gallons a week, sometimes more I bet. Some days we can kill a gallon in a night yikes!! I do find it odd we drink milk from cows. |
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Pasturazation also causes a lot of people to have trouble digesting milk. Texas as a few certified grade A raw dairies. I got my wife ("allergic" to milk) to try some - we have been drinking only raw for 3 years now. Kids hate the imitation stuff (grocery store) milk now. Funny, our grade A, organic, Jersey milk (raw, direct from the dairy) is cheaper than normal store bought as well. |
Humans shouldn't consume dairy, grains, legumes, or potatoes. Google paleo diet for more info, but most people after eating this way report feeling better. Reduced sinus congestion and clicking/popping in the ears after cutting out dairy, along with the digestive problems. Grains, legumes, and potatoes are all either poisonous or indigestible when eaten raw. Hyperinsulinemia from these foods causes a multitude of chronic problems in humans. |
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One would think that by the time one reached the age of 35, one would know they are lactose intolerant. IIRC, I was around a week old when they found out I couldn't even handle mothers milk, subsequently I was raise on goat's milk and avoid milk altogether for the most part at age 54. Milk don't do "my" body any good whatsoever. mike |
 That leaves meat and leafs and flowering fruits. No beans, rice, corns, oats, wheats, barleys, etc... |
That's right. But yeah meat, fish, fowl, nuts, seeds, fruit, root vegetables (carrots, turnips, etc), cruciferous veggies (cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage), leafy greens, asparagus, avacados, coconuts. There is quite a bit of good food to eat. It does a body good. Bread, cereals, corn, potatoes, .....all crap. There's a link between the nightshades (tomatoes, peppers, etc) and arthritis, so some are excluding the nightshades too. |
We thrived on it too, there was no grain, beans, rice. All of those foods are cultivated strains developed thousands of years later. They lost the competition. We took their food, land, and some say their women (I know I've seen a few, ever been to south central PA?). Breakfast is the same as other meals. Modern western culture is addicted to carbohydrates (sugar and bread), and it's killing us. My breakfast is a 6 egg omelette (not all the yolks), with broccoli, onions, carrots, or whatever and a slice of ham (sometimes beef or turkey). Some walnuts or almonds, an apple, kiwi, half an avocado, maybe some grapes. Coffee (not strict paleo) and water. I'm not strict. I still eat some grains. I eat "regular" food (with some exceptions) at other people's houses. |
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I should qauntify that I have been drinking the cheap grocery store brand Lactaid and it does the trick. I just found it odd that I would develop an allergy this late in life. Growing up I drank a LOT of whole milk. My oldest son has a bad allergy to milk and my wife is supposedly Loctose intolerant. I was begining to suspect the crap they put in the cows these days compared to the stuff when I was a kid. |
Ridiculously meaningless. All that means is that humans are intelligent and can recognize and cultivate sources of nutrition that normally wouldn't be available. Milk is high in fat, carbohydrates, and protein. It's almost the perfect food, as it has to be to fulfill its purpose. Cheese is one of the best ways possible to store fat and protein for the long term...plus it's damn tasty. Humans are the only creatures on earth that do a lot of things. Duh. |
Gee, I wonder why we don't see any rabbits throwing a rope around a cow and herding into a milking stall? Or any Alligator run cheese factories? I wonder why? |
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I drink quite a bit of skim milk... Roughly 1 gallon every 4 days. It's great stuff! ETA: I will add that my diet consists almost entirely of fresh fruits, vegetables(to include legumes) and whole grains. I consume some lean meats, but it does not constitute a large portion of my dietary intake. I'd love to see someone try to tell me that I'm unhealthy. |
  Shit has been provin false soooo many times. |
Wow. The level of ignorance in this thread boggles the mind. Jersey cows, & Guernsey for that matter, only produce higher fat & higher protein milk than the more common Holsteins. And BGH is not nasty. You have no way of knowing if it has been used on a cow unless your read the label. There is no test for it in milk. Actually there probably is none in the milk itself, except for a trace level. The dairies depend on the honesty of the farmers to tell them whether they have treated any of their cows with BGH. BGH, actually rBGH for "recombinant," is administered by injection & diffuses into the cows' system. It does nothing more than stimulate the production of milk, that is, the cow gives more milk after being treated with rBGH than without it. And to the other poster, no, 1%, 2%, and skim aren't just colored water. They are the same as whole milk but they have a reduced fat content. What do you think the fat content of whole milk is? 25%, maybe 50%? No. The rule of thumb is 3.5%. Having said that, milk fat production varies by cow, by breed, by feed, by temperature, the cow's stage in their lactation cycle, & a lot more variables. Same with protein and the amount of milk that the cows give. As far as an upset stomach, it could be lactose intolerance, but it could be many other things, too. There are several ways that you can test yourself for it, providing that it isn't too severe. The poster who mentioned Lactaid was right. You can drink that instead. If your problems go away, then lactose intolerance might well have been the problem. Lactaid is also available in pill form OTC. I think that you can even find it at Wally World. You can also try some yogurt with live culture in it. Sometimes it's advisable to treat your digestive system with favorable bacteria. You can get different bacteria from milk. It has lactobacillus acidophilus. Yogurt has a different bacteria, the name of which escapes me right now. Either way, it's best to use a product with the live cultures in it if possible. You can also get acidophilus pills from the health food store, but they're usually in a pill with a lot of lactose so that the bacteria have a food source. I guess that it's up to you as to whether you think that it would be good to try to treat lactose intolerance with more lactose. I don't think that it's ever hurt me, plus those pills help when I just have an upset stomach for some unknown reason. Here's an interesting short article. Good luck. |