Milwaukee couple swatted 55 times (Page 4 of 4)
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Originally Posted By tac556: Sure you can. As an LE Sgt I flagged places for “no more response about XYZ” for a certain amount of time-(hours/days/weeks/years…) In fact, one I did was for people who lived at the edge of town, calling in machine gun fire. Dispatch would try to flag it as a “shots” call as well. Nope, the shooters lived outside town, and are not doing anything wrong, we are not responding any more, do not set up calls for it, etc. And if it is the same person calling it in, advise them to stop calling or face arrest themselves…. So - Fire alarm is malfunctioning and you are not going to stop going out after multiple BS calls? Not something I have seen Fire do, they flagged that and made a phone call the next time “do you have a fire?” As a matter of fact, if you did not flag an address that had been hit by something like this swatting repeatedly, you would have been in trouble the next time it happened. Common sense needs to be used for things like this, FFS… Doubt I would have settled for only 575k on something this dumb….especially of they never tracked down and arrested the person calling it in. Have to have some serious leadership issues to let this happen. Originally Posted By tac556: Originally Posted By jollyg83: Exactly. I’m not saying this is an apples to apples comparison, but the fire department responds to every fire alarm as if it’s a real fire. 9/10 times it’s a false alarm but we still respond. Now if we keep getting dispatched over and over and over again to the same address we’ll figure out why it keeps going into alarm. But you can’t just not respond to a call because “we know it’s bullshit.” The MPD failed to investigate why they keep getting swatted. Sure you can. As an LE Sgt I flagged places for “no more response about XYZ” for a certain amount of time-(hours/days/weeks/years…) In fact, one I did was for people who lived at the edge of town, calling in machine gun fire. Dispatch would try to flag it as a “shots” call as well. Nope, the shooters lived outside town, and are not doing anything wrong, we are not responding any more, do not set up calls for it, etc. And if it is the same person calling it in, advise them to stop calling or face arrest themselves…. So - Fire alarm is malfunctioning and you are not going to stop going out after multiple BS calls? Not something I have seen Fire do, they flagged that and made a phone call the next time “do you have a fire?” As a matter of fact, if you did not flag an address that had been hit by something like this swatting repeatedly, you would have been in trouble the next time it happened. Common sense needs to be used for things like this, FFS… Doubt I would have settled for only 575k on something this dumb….especially of they never tracked down and arrested the person calling it in. Have to have some serious leadership issues to let this happen. "But you can’t just not respond to a call because “we know it’s bullshit.” That's some bullshit right there my guy. People call 911 all the time and the lazy donut eaters never respond, or respond hours later. The fuck outta here with you can't just not respond. Police have no obligation to provide services to anyone. Just the "greater good, or public" or whatever the fuck the courts said about it. |
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Originally Posted By BFskinner: After that much harassment from the PoPo I wouldn't actually want them to show up in the event of a real emergency. They'd probably just kill the people that live there then ask questions later. But as long as they go home safe, right? |
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Originally Posted By colklink: Agreed. Because the US had zero law enforcement, in fact it was an anarchy ridden shithole, from 1776 to 1967 when Qualified Immunity was created. I think we can all agree that anything we can do to acknowledge that LEOs are vastly better than scummy civilians is best... Originally Posted By colklink: Originally Posted By glklvr: Without QI police would be sued for everything they did, including arresting criminals. Unfortunately, there only seem to be people on 100% or 0%, no middle ground. Agreed. Because the US had zero law enforcement, in fact it was an anarchy ridden shithole, from 1776 to 1967 when Qualified Immunity was created. I think we can all agree that anything we can do to acknowledge that LEOs are vastly better than scummy civilians is best... QI is needed for decisions made on the street that could reasonably be seen as constitutional. It has no place for decisions made by someone sitting at a desk as they have the time and resources to make a proper decision. It has been expanded way beyond its original intent. ETA: Most officers on the street make decisions based on policiy and training. If the policy or training is wrong this would still leave the ones responsible for that policy or training liable. Put the blame where it belongs. |
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Originally Posted By Justinandfreyja: 4th response in a day?! Yeah dude, use your brain. They thought it was a scheduled training event. But in all reality, after the third callout. There should had been better questions why this was happening to the same address. |
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My camera would have recorded each swat call and been posted on Facebook. Then each officers Facebook until it stopped. I would have placed a sign at the entrance of my house saying, yes this is the house you JBTs have been swatted too 55 times, please fuckimg go home you have boots that need shinning. Luckily for me the Deputy Sheriff is my neighbor, he would fix it pretty quick. His cameras would also cover every time someone pulls into the entrance to our property. |
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Originally Posted By colklink:Quality Immunity fucking rocks  I do think as a society, we can do better though. I would like to see Super Immunity. Something that will allow law enforcement to do whatever they want, or feel is necessary, to keep us lowly civilians safe and in line. |
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Originally Posted By ceetee: How would it play out, though, if this house has a genuine emergency, and the dispatcher, and responding officers all just said, "Oh, it's probably just another prank call. We'll get there when we get there." "To Serve and 
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Originally Posted By MtnMusic:In my younger days, I spent quite a bit of time in Milwaukee. Milwaukeans are dumb fucks, for the most part. Since cops in urban areas tend to be of lower than average intelligence (let's face it, that's what those cities are looking for), that means they are extra retarded. And fat, too. 
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I'm sure it would have been handled in a much different way if the calls were aimed at city officials or officers. Too deliberate for it to happen 55 times with the tools and resources available to them. A call back after the 1st time would have saved time, money and trust. Just answering, then dispatching makes it a very effective flaw to be exploited. The resistance to even address it really smells. |
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| I did some digging into this guy. This doesn’t excuse bad police work, but we have a delusional leftist, chronically online, middle-aged, out-of-shape, overweight guy who claims to be a gym rat and half marathon runner. He constantly insults regular people online, most of whom did nothing wrong, and threatens trolls. He tells trolls that he is an expert in knives, guns, BJJ, Aikido, Krav Maga, and kickboxing and invites them to come fight him. Then one drunk troll shows up to take him up on his offer, and he runs away and calls the police. Anyone with a functioning brain would know that this could escalate into a ridiculous situation. How exactly is he a victim? It’s not OK to swat someone and this does not excuse bad police work, but he is hardly innocent. I am not going to get too upset about someone who behaves like that and openly says every day that everyone who disagrees with him is a Nazi and deserves death or prison. This guy makes a certain Satanist guntuber seem sane. |
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Originally Posted By Tiberius: Remember Jeff Dahlmer? One of his victims, a Vietnamese kid, escaped him and ran down the street naked trying to get help. MPD grabbed him and took him back to Dahlmer, handed him over to him and left. Dahlmer politely waited until they got back into their cruiser before he strangled him. |
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Originally Posted By Beltfed308: I'm sure it would have been handled in a much different way if the calls were aimed at city officials or officers. Too deliberate for it to happen 55 times with the tools and resources available to them. A call back after the 1st time would have saved time, money and trust. Just answering, then dispatching makes it a very effective flaw to be exploited. The resistance to even address it really smells. Of course. We can't have our betters being harassed. They too enjoy the many blessings of Qualified Immunity. |
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Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: "But you can’t just not respond to a call because “we know it’s bullshit.” That's some bullshit right there my guy. People call 911 all the time and the lazy donut eaters never respond, or respond hours later. The fuck outta here with you can't just not respond. Police have no obligation to provide services to anyone. Just the "greater good, or public" or whatever the fuck the courts said about it. Some agencies have decided to not respond to some types of low priority complaints. Some agencies expect certain low priority types of complaints to be reported online because they don't have the personnel to to devote to taking those reports. Despite what the courts have ruled most agencies do try to respond to most or all complaints. Most of the time there's a long delay in responding it's because it's been deemed a low priority cdll compared to other pending calls |
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Originally Posted By tac556: ... So - Fire alarm is malfunctioning and you are not going to stop going out after multiple BS calls? Not something I have seen Fire do, they flagged that and made a phone call the next time “do you have a fire?” ... Fire has some different tools available. An apartment building that has its alarm decertified and has to have a 24/7 fire watch or lose its occupancy cert will motivate an owner. |
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Originally Posted By ceetee: How would it play out, though, if this house has a genuine emergency, and the dispatcher, and responding officers all just said, "Oh, it's probably just another prank call. We'll get there when we get there." Like the 2nd time or the 50th? |
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Originally Posted By acrocat: I did some digging into this guy. This doesn’t excuse bad police work, but we have a delusional leftist, chronically online, middle-aged, out-of-shape, overweight guy who claims to be a gym rat and half marathon runner. He constantly insults regular people online, most of whom did nothing wrong, and threatens trolls. He tells trolls that he is an expert in knives, guns, BJJ, Aikido, Krav Maga, and kickboxing and invites them to come fight him. Then one drunk troll shows up to take him up on his offer, and he runs away and calls the police. Anyone with a functioning brain would know that this could escalate into a ridiculous situation. How exactly is he a victim? It’s not OK to swat someone and this does not excuse bad police work, but he is hardly innocent. I am not going to get too upset about someone who behaves like that and openly says every day that everyone who disagrees with him is a Nazi and deserves death or prison. This guy makes a certain Satanist guntuber seem sane. Terrible take. He might be the biggest scumbag in America, still wouldn't make swatting him once ok. Let alone 55 times. If you're ok with swatting someone you don't like, you should reexamime your life and belief system. |
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Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: Terrible take. He might be the biggest scumbag in America, still wouldn't make swatting him once ok. Let alone 55 times. If you're ok with swatting someone you don't like, you should reexamime your life and belief system. Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: Originally Posted By acrocat: I did some digging into this guy. This doesn’t excuse bad police work, but we have a delusional leftist, chronically online, middle-aged, out-of-shape, overweight guy who claims to be a gym rat and half marathon runner. He constantly insults regular people online, most of whom did nothing wrong, and threatens trolls. He tells trolls that he is an expert in knives, guns, BJJ, Aikido, Krav Maga, and kickboxing and invites them to come fight him. Then one drunk troll shows up to take him up on his offer, and he runs away and calls the police. Anyone with a functioning brain would know that this could escalate into a ridiculous situation. How exactly is he a victim? It’s not OK to swat someone and this does not excuse bad police work, but he is hardly innocent. I am not going to get too upset about someone who behaves like that and openly says every day that everyone who disagrees with him is a Nazi and deserves death or prison. This guy makes a certain Satanist guntuber seem sane. Terrible take. He might be the biggest scumbag in America, still wouldn't make swatting him once ok. Let alone 55 times. If you're ok with swatting someone you don't like, you should reexamime your life and belief system. He did not say that.  Deep Thoughts by Raylan Givens |
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Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: Terrible take. He might be the biggest scumbag in America, still wouldn't make swatting him once ok. Let alone 55 times. If you're ok with swatting someone you don't like, you should reexamime your life and belief system. Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: Terrible take. He might be the biggest scumbag in America, still wouldn't make swatting him once ok. Let alone 55 times. If you're ok with swatting someone you don't like, you should reexamime your life and belief system. Terrible response. Reading comprehension. How does it work? Even retards like him have civil rights and as bad as he is, swatting is never OK. It’s not OK to swat someone and this does not excuse bad police work |
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I just so happen to have that paragon of journalism called “Inside Edition” on, in the background. The swatt’ing started when the husband, Pat Tomlinson, put out a tweet saying he didn’t think that Saturday Night Live comedian Norm Macdonald was that funny: Attached File Here is the link from July 2023: https://www.insideedition.com/milwaukee-sci-fi-author-patrick-tomlinson-victim-of-yearslong-swatting-campaign-of-terror-82365?amp |
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Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad: I just so happen to have that paragon of journalism called “Inside Edition” on, in the background. The swatt’ing started when the husband, Pat Tomlinson, put out a tweet saying he didn’t think that Saturday Night Live comedian Norm Macdonald was that funny: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369122/IMG_8865_jpeg-3831293.JPG Here is the link from July 2023: https://www.insideedition.com/milwaukee-sci-fi-author-patrick-tomlinson-victim-of-yearslong-swatting-campaign-of-terror-82365?amp Norm would be appalled and amused in equal measure. |
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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter: Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: Originally Posted By acrocat: I did some digging into this guy. This doesn’t excuse bad police work, but we have a delusional leftist, chronically online, middle-aged, out-of-shape, overweight guy who claims to be a gym rat and half marathon runner. He constantly insults regular people online, most of whom did nothing wrong, and threatens trolls. He tells trolls that he is an expert in knives, guns, BJJ, Aikido, Krav Maga, and kickboxing and invites them to come fight him. Then one drunk troll shows up to take him up on his offer, and he runs away and calls the police. Anyone with a functioning brain would know that this could escalate into a ridiculous situation. How exactly is he a victim? It’s not OK to swat someone and this does not excuse bad police work, but he is hardly innocent. I am not going to get too upset about someone who behaves like that and openly says every day that everyone who disagrees with him is a Nazi and deserves death or prison. This guy makes a certain Satanist guntuber seem sane. Terrible take. He might be the biggest scumbag in America, still wouldn't make swatting him once ok. Let alone 55 times. If you're ok with swatting someone you don't like, you should reexamime your life and belief system. He did not say that.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laFGAp6Ip40Then why even bother sharing how terrible a guy the victim is? It's another example of saying "but" and not meaning what you said before it. |
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Then why even bother sharing how terrible a guy the victim is? It's another example of saying "but" and not meaning what you said before it. Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter: Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: Originally Posted By acrocat: I did some digging into this guy. This doesn’t excuse bad police work, but we have a delusional leftist, chronically online, middle-aged, out-of-shape, overweight guy who claims to be a gym rat and half marathon runner. He constantly insults regular people online, most of whom did nothing wrong, and threatens trolls. He tells trolls that he is an expert in knives, guns, BJJ, Aikido, Krav Maga, and kickboxing and invites them to come fight him. Then one drunk troll shows up to take him up on his offer, and he runs away and calls the police. Anyone with a functioning brain would know that this could escalate into a ridiculous situation. How exactly is he a victim? It’s not OK to swat someone and this does not excuse bad police work, but he is hardly innocent. I am not going to get too upset about someone who behaves like that and openly says every day that everyone who disagrees with him is a Nazi and deserves death or prison. This guy makes a certain Satanist guntuber seem sane. Terrible take. He might be the biggest scumbag in America, still wouldn't make swatting him once ok. Let alone 55 times. If you're ok with swatting someone you don't like, you should reexamime your life and belief system. He did not say that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laFGAp6Ip40Then why even bother sharing how terrible a guy the victim is? It's another example of saying "but" and not meaning what you said before it. I looked back. If I counted correctly there were 8 different posters on page one making various statements wondering as to why this guy is being targeted. One of our members did a deep dive into the why. I appreciate his efforts in helping us as a group better understand why this is happening. Another member came along and totally mischaracterized his post. No one is condoning this happening to him but now we have way better understanding as to the why. He's an asshole. |
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55 false incidents and MPD's response is "There's nothing we can do about it?" Holy fuck, talk about an accountability problem. Use the money and get out of that fucking shit city! |
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Originally Posted By tep0583: 55 false incidents and MPD's response is "There's nothing we can do about it?" Holy fuck, talk about an accountability problem. Use the money and get out of that fucking shit city! Um, no, the homeowners should stay there in the big-city liberal paradise. The suburbs are already overloaded with their types. |
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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter: I looked back. If I counted correctly there were 8 different posters on page one making various statements wondering as to why this guy is being targeted. One of our members did a deep dive into the why. I appreciate his efforts in helping us as a group better understand why this is happening. Another member came along and totally mischaracterized his post. No one is condoning this happening to him but now we have way better understanding as to the why. He's an asshole. Okay. If someone said "I'm not saying she deserved to be raped, but she was wearing a short skirt." I would say the same thing I did. Would you also be saying that person was just giving us a better understanding why it happened? |
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Okay. If someone said "I'm not saying she deserved to be raped, but she was wearing a short skirt." I would say the same thing I did. Would you also be saying that person was just giving us a better understanding why it happened? Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter: I looked back. If I counted correctly there were 8 different posters on page one making various statements wondering as to why this guy is being targeted. One of our members did a deep dive into the why. I appreciate his efforts in helping us as a group better understand why this is happening. Another member came along and totally mischaracterized his post. No one is condoning this happening to him but now we have way better understanding as to the why. He's an asshole. Okay. If someone said "I'm not saying she deserved to be raped, but she was wearing a short skirt." I would say the same thing I did. Would you also be saying that person was just giving us a better understanding why it happened? That's completely absurd. |
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Okay. If someone said "I'm not saying she deserved to be raped, but she was wearing a short skirt." I would say the same thing I did. Would you also be saying that person was just giving us a better understanding why it happened? Because a terminally online weirdo challenging trolls to come to his house and fight him is exactly like a woman in a short skirt who is minding her own business and not bothering anyone. 
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Originally Posted By acrocat: Because a terminally online weirdo challenging trolls to come to his house and fight him is exactly like a woman in a short skirt who is minding her own business and not bothering anyone. Didnt you get the memo? You arent allowed to do anything but condemn the police in these types of threads. Please correct this in all future posts and be sure to add a cover sheet to yur TPS reports. 
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Originally Posted By NCPatrolAR: Didnt you get the memo? You arent allowed to do anything but condemn the police in these types of threads. Please correct this in all future posts and be sure to add a cover sheet to yur TPS reports. The police that you said "officers should have been suspended/fired/charged"? Yeah, we should condemn them. |
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Are you suggesting that he deserved it? Apparently, you are going to use mental gymnastics and try your “gotcha” approach yet again. You know full well that no one ever said that, but you know nothing about him and you don’t have anything else to add to this, so that is all you have. No one deserves that, but if you are an asshole and intentionally escalate things with strangers, then things can get ridiculous fast. No one really knows who is responsible. The guy who claimed responsibility just got out of prison and is living in a halfway house. He has plenty of people who hate him. The Norm MacDonald story only relates to one group of people who hate him, but he uses that to explain everything so he can always play the victim. He tried to sue the Norm MacDonald group in court and lost, ultimately having to pay more than $83,000 to cover their legal fees. The judgment itself was lower, but there was a lot of interest because he refused to pay it for a long time. He is certainly a victim as far as being swatted, but he also did a lot to help things get to that point. He actually tweeted “Enjoy prison stalker” more than 300 times to trolls on a single Thanksgiving Day. He continues to threaten to kick his troll’s asses if they ever have the balls to meet him in person. That is not the behavior of someone who simply wants to be left alone, especially considering this was well after most of the swatting incidents had already occurred. The guy has issues, and he always seems to make things worse. If a story is this crazy, there is usually a lot more to it than meets the eye. There is no proof that the police came to his house 55 times. I believe they were probably called at least that many times, or more, and there is proof that they actually came to his house at least a dozen or so times. So, he is definitely a legitimate swatting victim. He is obviously addicted to attention, and it doesn’t seem to matter whether that attention is negative or positive as long as he gets it. This is also the guy who once got drunk and tried to fight Larry Correia at an author’s dinner at Spaghetti Factory. Larry would have broken him in half. Of course, he denies that story, but Larry has told it multiple times, and several people who were there have confirmed it. He hasn’t had a book contract in over six years because he has burned all of his bridges. See a self-destructive pattern yet? You are welcome to keep being obtuse and repeat yourself into the void, but I’m done with the rabbit hole that is this guy. It goes way deeper, but I’m not going to waste any more time by looking any further. I know too much of this insane story already and now I want to forget. He can be both an asshole that helped create the situation and a victim. MPD can also be at fault for handling this poorly. There are a lot of assholes colliding in this story. |