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6/12/2006 8:12:36 AM EDT
It looks like SCOTUS will be listening to see if injection is a cruel and unusual form of punishment.  I believe they will listen to same argument about electrocution too.

So, if both injection and electrocution are ruled cruel and unusual punishment what execution method do you think would not be ruled cruel and unusual?  I guess the question come down to what is the most painless execution method?

I have heard that hanging and guillotine are both painless as they sever the spinal cord.
Any other painless methods you know or heard about?    
6/12/2006 8:16:24 AM EDT
[#1]
bullet to the head. atleast it doesn't hurt my wallet as bad for dispatching dirtbags.
6/12/2006 8:16:38 AM EDT
[#2]

I don't see how there's anything cruel or unusual about "lethal injection" if done properly.

I just euthenized my cat this weekend, and sedatives combined with a lethal injection was incredibly peaceful and humane, and I cannot imagine a "better" was to kill if you have to.






The only way they could make it MORE humane, would be to pump a sedative gas into an inmate's cell while he is sleeping, and then inject the lethal drug before the sedative wears off - that way, the person wouldn't even KNOW they were being executed.
6/12/2006 8:17:21 AM EDT
[#3]
Wrap the condemned in det cord.  IIRC it explodes faster than nerve impulses travel.  The anticipation would be a bitch, but theoretically there would be no pain.  Alive one minute, pink mist the next.
6/12/2006 8:17:42 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
bullet to the head. atleast it doesn't hurt my wallet as bad for dispatching dirtbags.



White box .45 is only around 20 cents per execution.
6/12/2006 8:18:21 AM EDT
[#5]
If I had to chose my method of going out, firing squad would be the way to go.

CO  might be a decent way to go
6/12/2006 8:18:48 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Wrap the condemned in det cord.  IIRC it explodes faster than nerve impulses travel.  The anticipation would be a bitch, but theoretically there would be no pain.  Alive one minute, pink mist the next.



I like your idea.

I say they can give him to me, I'll give him an execution of papercuts.
6/12/2006 8:18:52 AM EDT
[#7]
helium............... the happy death.
6/12/2006 8:19:05 AM EDT
[#8]
The people protesting this don't really think that the injection itself is cruel.  They want all capital punishment banned, no matter the method.  To them, the execution itself is what is cruel and unusual.  But they won't say that in court.  So instead they spew bullshit about how it is horribly cruel that someone should be subjected to the same horrible torture that we subject all our kids to when they get vaccinated.  
6/12/2006 8:20:15 AM EDT
[#9]
Head first into a giant chipper shredder. Think of the logo endorsements that could go on the machine.
6/12/2006 8:20:34 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Wrap the condemned in det cord.  IIRC it explodes faster than nerve impulses travel.  The anticipation would be a bitch, but theoretically there would be no pain.  Alive one minute, pink mist the next.



Also eliminates the need for an autopsy and the expense of burial.  Just hose the area down!
6/12/2006 8:21:23 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
If I had to chose my method of going out, firing squad would be the way to go.



No way in hell I'd choose that.  It will hurt like a mother****er until your brain stops working.  They don't shoot you in the head.  They shoot you in the heart.
6/12/2006 8:25:24 AM EDT
[#12]
I thought it was laugh out loud funny and ridiculous when they gave a druggy a stay of execution recently because the needle would hurt him too much. The reason it'd hurt too much is because he poked himself with a needle one too many times while shooting up so now his veins are messed up and it'd be cruel to stick another one in him now...

Just cut his fucking head off then.
6/12/2006 8:26:11 AM EDT
[#13]
Who really cares as long as it is not intentionally cruel.  

How many criminals gave their victims a painless death.  

White box is too good for them.  Use surplus.  Failure to fire?  No big deal.  Just load up another one.
6/12/2006 8:28:18 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
The people protesting this don't really think that the injection itself is cruel.  They want all capital punishment banned, no matter the method.  To them, the execution itself is what is cruel and unusual.  But they won't say that in court.  So instead they spew bullshit about how it is horribly cruel that someone should be subjected to the same horrible torture that we subject all our kids to when they get vaccinated.  



Correct answer.
6/12/2006 8:28:55 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
The people protesting this don't really think that the injection itself is cruel.  They want all capital punishment banned, no matter the method.  To them, the execution itself is what is cruel and unusual.  But they won't say that in court.  So instead they spew bullshit about how it is horribly cruel that someone should be subjected to the same horrible torture that we subject all our kids to when they get vaccinated.  



+1

It's all bullshit.

Getting slugged in the head and knocked out is painless.  Then at that point you can do whatever you want.

Severing the head from the body, whether by slice or break, may or may not be painful, but the subject is concious.  Not to mention hanging can be easy to screw up.

A large bullet to the brain or explosion is painless.  The tissue is destroyed faster than the nervious system can react.
6/12/2006 8:31:26 AM EDT
[#16]
Concrete block around the feet and pushed off a pier.   No worries about disposal either.  
6/12/2006 8:32:36 AM EDT
[#17]
freezing
6/12/2006 8:33:56 AM EDT
[#18]
Pine Box o' Truth!  


;)
6/12/2006 8:35:17 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Not to mention hanging can be easy to screw up.




Yeah, I remember hearing that hanging is mostly science with a touch of art.  Fall too short and they choke or fall too long/hard and they loose their head, knot in the wrong place and the neck doesn't break, etc.  Unfortunately there are very few if any person who still has the knowledge.  
6/12/2006 8:35:17 AM EDT
[#20]
C4?

6/12/2006 8:35:40 AM EDT
[#21]
100% of those surveyed have not voiced any complaints about pain related to their method of execution.
6/12/2006 8:37:36 AM EDT
[#22]
I saw a movie once that had Tommy Lee Jones as a warden of a prison.  A guy asked him about execution by electric chair, "Do you think, just for a tiny fraction of a second, when the electricity hits their brain that they feel it?"

Tommy Lee Jones answered, "Oh, Lord, I sure hope so!"

6/12/2006 8:45:49 AM EDT
[#23]
They ought to bring back that wonderful french invention the guillotine.  I really doubt they felt any pain and it made for a great show.
6/12/2006 8:46:26 AM EDT
[#24]
I'd have to say a bullet to the back of the head, rifle or large-caliber pistol preferably. They'll be dead before they can possibly feel the impact.
6/12/2006 8:47:57 AM EDT
[#25]
Tell them they are being released then on the way out the door .45 in the back of the head.
6/12/2006 8:52:30 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
I have heard that hanging and guillotine are both painless as they sever the spinal cord.  


If done right hanging is quick. If done wrong, its a long drawn out ordeal. I go with the guillotine.
6/12/2006 8:56:18 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Head first into a giant chipper shredder. Think of the logo endorsements that could go on the machine.



Nope, feet first, at least for child molesters and rapists.
6/12/2006 9:00:49 AM EDT
[#28]
Strap them to a table, give them a shot that paralizes the lungs, they cant breath and die a slow,painfull agonizing death, completely aware of what is going on...

Give them a taste of what the people they murdered went through.

6/12/2006 9:01:09 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
I don't see how there's anything cruel or unusual about "lethal injection" if done properly.

I just euthenized my cat this weekend, and sedatives combined with a lethal injection was incredibly peaceful and humane, and I cannot imagine a "better" was to kill if you have to.






The only way they could make it MORE humane, would be to pump a sedative gas into an inmate's cell while he is sleeping, and then inject the lethal drug before the sedative wears off - that way, the person wouldn't even KNOW they were being executed.



I agree.  Its going to be impossible to eliviate the stress involved with execution.  I guess it's just one of the prices you have to pay for being a loser.  That and I hear the burning in hell parts a real drag.
6/12/2006 9:10:00 AM EDT
[#30]
I say reinstate the guillotine and public execution.  Should be fairly painless the spinal column would be instantly destroyed.  Bullets sometimes do not take the obvious path.

6/12/2006 9:15:41 AM EDT
[#31]
Others are right, these people are trying to stop the death penalty, and don't care about the method.

There is no constitutional requirement that executions have to be free from pain, just not cruel or unusual.  Is the old sentence of draw and quatering cruel or unusual?  Probably, because it inflicts pain for the sake of inflicting pain.  But the current method, lethal injection can not be considered cruel and unusual, because the only pain that is inflicted on the prisoner is the pain of an IV, which is often administrered in medical situations.  A person who is getting a root canal suffers from more pain than that of a condemned prisoner going through lethal injection.  I don't see how lethal injection could be considered cruel or unusual, so let's hope the Supreme Court decides this in a correct manner.  
6/12/2006 9:18:37 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
helium............... the happy death.



Seriously, you're in marketing, right? I hope you're already on the phone with the helium people because after seeing this, SOMEONE is.
6/12/2006 9:19:35 AM EDT
[#33]
Enough hearsay, where are all of the first hand accounts?
6/12/2006 9:24:52 AM EDT
[#34]
The POS animal that was supposed to be exterminated in the PRK beat his victim to death with a clawhammer.  I think he should have the same done to him.  BTW he has been on death row LONGER than his victim was ALIVE.  I have no sympthy for animals like that.  The deffinition of cruel and unusual is variable in my opinion.  
6/12/2006 9:25:41 AM EDT
[#35]
Hang em upside down, and put a rat in a bag like in the movie Missing in Action.
6/12/2006 9:26:37 AM EDT
[#36]
Someone called in to Neal Boortz's show and said his dad committed suicide by helium inhalation, which is supposedly trauma free, painless, and easy to do.

Can you find something more painless than that?
6/12/2006 9:29:31 AM EDT
[#37]
Drop a 10 foot section of telephone pole from a high of 10 feet onto their head.
6/12/2006 9:32:47 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
helium............... the happy death.




Quoted:
Someone called in to Neal Boortz's show and said his dad committed suicide by helium inhalation, which is supposedly trauma free, painless, and easy to do.

Can you find something more painless than that?



Not really, it would be suffocation, it takes a while.

Personally I think they should be executed by what ever means they used on their victim.
6/12/2006 9:35:46 AM EDT
[#39]
Bullet to the brain
6/12/2006 9:35:52 AM EDT
[#40]
strapped to a 2,000 pound JDAM and dropped on a target, if he doesn't die from lack of oxygen, the blast should kill him in an instant.
6/12/2006 9:41:06 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Not to mention hanging can be easy to screw up.


Yeah, I remember hearing that hanging is mostly science with a touch of art.  Fall too short and they choke or fall too long/hard and they loose their head, knot in the wrong place and the neck doesn't break, etc.  Unfortunately there are very few if any person who still has the knowledge.  


I'm always ready and willing to learn something new.
6/12/2006 9:42:26 AM EDT
[#42]
Gladitorial combat!
6/12/2006 9:43:56 AM EDT
[#43]
Nitrogen asphixiation.



-K
6/12/2006 10:06:25 AM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
Others are right, these people are trying to stop the death penalty, and don't care about the method.

There is no constitutional requirement that executions have to be free from pain, just not cruel or unusual.  Is the old sentence of draw and quatering cruel or unusual?  Probably, because it inflicts pain for the sake of inflicting pain.  But the current method, lethal injection can not be considered cruel and unusual, because the only pain that is inflicted on the prisoner is the pain of an IV, which is often administrered in medical situations.  A person who is getting a root canal suffers from more pain than that of a condemned prisoner going through lethal injection.  I don't see how lethal injection could be considered cruel or unusual, so let's hope the Supreme Court decides this in a correct manner.  


Not a Constitutional scholar, by any means, but in my reading it would have to be classified as both "cruel" AND "unusual".

[Amdmt 8]"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."[Amdmt 8]

[not Amdmt 8]"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel or unusual punishments inflicted."[not Amdmt 8]

They mean two different things.

If some people consider it "cruel," but it's the "standard" mode of execution, I don't really see the problem.
6/12/2006 10:06:59 AM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:
Nitrogen asphixiation.

-K


We should let them choose from a "menu" of at least 7-8 ways to die.
For the record, I would choose erotic asphyxiation.
6/12/2006 10:12:22 AM EDT
[#46]
Sky diving without a parachute so they can think about how much fun there gonna have.
6/12/2006 10:12:50 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Nitrogen asphixiation.

-K


We should let them choose from a "menu" of at least 7-8 ways to die.
For the record, I would choose erotic asphyxiation.




I don't know if true, but I remember years ago reading an account fo a supposed execution of a British nobleman who was allowed to choose his execution method - and he chose to be drowned in port wine.  

6/12/2006 10:14:44 AM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
They ought to bring back that wonderful french invention the guillotine.  I really doubt they felt any pain and it made for a great show.



The head lives for 10-90 seconds after decapitation.  It's not quite painless.  But then again, given the posters in this thread have suggested the same horrific execution methodologies that were used by Sadaam Hussein, that shouldn't be an issue.
6/12/2006 10:16:26 AM EDT
[#49]
I've always thought the chair would be an interesting way to go.

6/12/2006 10:24:16 AM EDT
[#50]
Just bury them alive. The cheapest and least painful method.
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