Posted: 5/1/2014 6:39:32 PM EDT
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Springfield, 1847 (not sure if its the year or model #). Been considering picking one up and this one is in good shape. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: And if its not a reproduction? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quoted: Quoted: Not sure of your maker but from what I see, repros of the springfields are running about 800 new +\-. Some more here and there. I recently saw a decent Zouave repro for about 400 in a pawn shop. And if its not a reproduction? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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You're going to want to join a muzzle loading forum that caters to reenactors and historians to get a number of any merit. At the very least, post this in the muzzle loading forum here. Quoted:
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Not sure of your maker but from what I see, repros of the springfields are running about 800 new +\-. Some more here and there. I recently saw a decent Zouave repro for about 400 in a pawn shop. And if its not a reproduction? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm just looking for a "You can't lose if you pay this amount." figure. He's claiming it's an original Springfield in excellent shape. Round about figure is fine, I know details are lacking. Also, any advice appreciated on sorting out repro's from originals. I'm assuming all the repro's have the new manufacturer's marks? |
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I'm just looking for a "You can't lose if you pay this amount." figure. He's claiming it's an original Springfield in excellent shape. Round about figure is fine, I know details are lacking. Also, any advice appreciated on sorting out repro's from originals. I'm assuming all the repro's have the new manufacturer's marks? Quoted:
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Not sure of your maker but from what I see, repros of the springfields are running about 800 new +\-. Some more here and there. I recently saw a decent Zouave repro for about 400 in a pawn shop. And if its not a reproduction? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm just looking for a "You can't lose if you pay this amount." figure. He's claiming it's an original Springfield in excellent shape. Round about figure is fine, I know details are lacking. Also, any advice appreciated on sorting out repro's from originals. I'm assuming all the repro's have the new manufacturer's marks? Condition, condition, condition. Not all reproductions are marked as such. Prices will vary widely as to condition, originality, finish, etc. If it has been refinished will affect price big time. Some of these muskets were faked so long ago they appear almost as originals but are not worth the money. Trying to put a price on what little info you have is all but impossible. |
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A musket made in Springfield and date dated to 1847, would be the Model 1842, and would be .69 caliber. In the mid-1850s about 10,000 1842 muskets were converted to rifled muskefs to take advatage of the new minie bullet.
The value of an original would be based on condition and provenance. A run of the mill 1842 is probably relatively affordable but get a good provenance and it can go up. Additionally contractor made 1842 muskets may have more collector value. A quick view of The Horse Soldier in Gettysburg, show they recently sold one for $1300 -- http://www.horsesoldier.com/products/firearms/longarms/6046 |
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Condition, condition, condition. Not all reproductions are marked as such. Prices will vary widely as to condition, originality, finish, etc. If it has been refinished will affect price big time. Some of these muskets were faked so long ago they appear almost as originals but are not worth the money. Trying to put a price on what little info you have is all but impossible. Quoted:
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Not sure of your maker but from what I see, repros of the springfields are running about 800 new +\-. Some more here and there. I recently saw a decent Zouave repro for about 400 in a pawn shop. And if its not a reproduction? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm just looking for a "You can't lose if you pay this amount." figure. He's claiming it's an original Springfield in excellent shape. Round about figure is fine, I know details are lacking. Also, any advice appreciated on sorting out repro's from originals. I'm assuming all the repro's have the new manufacturer's marks? Condition, condition, condition. Not all reproductions are marked as such. Prices will vary widely as to condition, originality, finish, etc. If it has been refinished will affect price big time. Some of these muskets were faked so long ago they appear almost as originals but are not worth the money. Trying to put a price on what little info you have is all but impossible. Yup, I'm in over my head with this one. I have no idea what to look for when it comes to reproductions. I figured for $900 I couldn't go wrong. Maybe I should pass. |
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Some of these muskets were faked so long ago they appear almost as originals but are not worth the money. I personally put together a Model 1842 using an original Harpers Ferry lock and original trigger guard, buttplate, bands, etc. Only the barrel, ramrod, and stock were new. Someone could easily mistake this for a well-preserved original. (I didn't do it with the intention of faking, but in order to have an authentic shooting gun for reenactments.) |
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So I got to check it out today. It was a legitimate Springfield musket. It had all the correct markings as far as I know, V./P, eagle, Springfield, an M on the trigger guard, US on the butt plate, and I think I saw a date of '52' (I want to say it was on the under side and maybe a few others I'm forgetting about. The only thing that I couldn't find / was worn off was cartouches on the stock. Over all, it was in decent shape, but the stock was fairly worn with dings and a small section of wood repair, which looked like an expedient field repair, done with brass pins. Very little rust, but the metal was a little chewed up and pitted on the left side of the receiver and rest was covered in a nice patina. I ended up passing up on the deal. I might do a little more research before I make that decision final though. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
| Well, it never moved and he dropped the price to $600. Now that I've got it in my hands again, it's a model 1847 and I'm guessing it was made in 1854 (butt plate markings are "E 54" and "US". It's a little more chewed up than I remember, but I only looked at it for a few minutes the first time. Function is fine, but I'm not sure if it will fire as the nipple is a bit chiggered. Imgur isn't letting me post pics at the moment, but I'll get them up eventually. |