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6/8/2010 5:04:46 PM EDT
How many of you have had one?
I've seen a few threads on this, where folks have owned up to it.

Curious, to get an idea of how common this is.

I have a few family members who are rather novices when it comes to guns, but, despite handling them often, haven't had any issues.
Have you?

No shame here, shit happens.
6/8/2010 5:05:56 PM EDT
[#1]
yes.  Flame suit on.  back in my newb days and now I am a gun safety Nazi.  Lesson learned!
6/8/2010 5:06:37 PM EDT
[#2]
I've seen some scary ones.  For instance, CLEAR THE DAMN 9MM BEFORE YOU PLACE IT IN THE BARREL!!
6/8/2010 5:07:22 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I've seen some scary ones.  For instance, CLEAR THE DAMN 9MM BEFORE YOU PLACE IT IN THE BARREL!!


Huh?
6/8/2010 5:08:18 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
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I've seen some scary ones.  For instance, CLEAR THE DAMN 9MM BEFORE YOU PLACE IT IN THE BARREL!!


Huh?


When you walk up to the clearing barrel, drop the mag; clear the chamber, and dry fire.  Don't just drop the mag and shoot the sand in the barrel.
6/8/2010 5:08:25 PM EDT
[#5]
Yup.
6/8/2010 5:09:33 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
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I've seen some scary ones.  For instance, CLEAR THE DAMN 9MM BEFORE YOU PLACE IT IN THE BARREL!!


Huh?


When you walk up to the clearing barrel, drop the mag; clear the chamber, and dry fire.  Don't just drop the mag and shoot the sand in the barrel.


It wasn't clear what you were talking about at all by the way.  
6/8/2010 5:09:44 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
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I've seen some scary ones.  For instance, CLEAR THE DAMN 9MM BEFORE YOU PLACE IT IN THE BARREL!!


Huh?


When you walk up to the clearing barrel, drop the mag; clear the chamber, and dry fire.  Don't just drop the mag and shoot the sand in the barrel.

Well why the hell else does it have sand in there for?

















6/8/2010 5:11:00 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
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I've seen some scary ones.  For instance, CLEAR THE DAMN 9MM BEFORE YOU PLACE IT IN THE BARREL!!


Huh?


When you walk up to the clearing barrel, drop the mag; clear the chamber, and dry fire.  Don't just drop the mag and shoot the sand in the barrel.


It wasn't clear what you were talking about at all by the way.  


It made sense in my head
ETA: Then again, I've seen people just walking up and down ranges and touch off rounds on the way to firing points.  I wish people simply... cared about weapon safety
6/8/2010 5:34:09 PM EDT
[#9]
My oldest son was shot in the back of the head by a ND while at a friends house. Any time your weapon fires with out you intending for it to is negligence.
Both were experienced. My sons friend thought he had cleared the weapon, it had a defective ejector and a round was still chambered. It discharged and ricocheted off of the safe striking my son in the rear upper left of the skull and exited center upper rear. Thanks to some skilled Emergency Personnel, a helicopter, Doctors and nearly a half million dollars in medical bills some vision loss is his only testimony is that seeing is believing your weapon is truly cleared. Racking the slide does not cut it.

Always LOOK to SEE that your weapon is clear and chances are you will never negligently discharge your weapon. The life you save may be your own.  

In short it is negligent.... and that's my .02
6/8/2010 5:40:00 PM EDT
[#10]
Knock on wood, I haven't but I was sitting 5 feet from a friend that did.  He buried a 5.56 round in his ceiling joist about 3 seconds after I asked him "why did you just chamber a round"?  He was about to hand the gun to his brother in law who is not a gun guy, his reply was "I didn't"  booom.....   I was fucking pissed, I tossed my wife who was sitting on my lap, took his gun from his hands and cleared it (I wanted to butt stroke him with his own rifle) and commenced the ass chewing.  Thank god the round found the joist because his wife was in bed above us (we were in the basement).  Surprisingly, my ears weren't even ringing.
6/8/2010 6:32:00 PM EDT
[#11]
I've had one. Won't ever have another.
6/8/2010 6:52:20 PM EDT
[#12]

Me

6/8/2010 7:07:12 PM EDT
[#13]
Years ago, I was with my wife at a friend's house and the friend's husband was a gun guy. He took me downstairs and showed me his FA MAC-10...I think that's what it was. It fired from an open bolt. Well, he slipped the mag back in and I'm not 100% on the sequence of events, but when he layed it down, he must have hit something or brushed the trigger.


Lets just say that a Whirlpool washer won't hold water with 3 bullet holes in it.
6/8/2010 7:11:32 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I've had one. Won't ever have another.


THIS!.  check back in 40 years!
6/8/2010 7:16:30 PM EDT
[#15]
I plead the fif so as not to jinx myself.
6/8/2010 7:21:53 PM EDT
[#16]
I was sighting in a Savage .17HMR a few years ago out at a pond on private ground.  While lining up my next shot there was this unexpected "bang" (f'n Accutrigger doing what it is supposed to do).  The muzzle was in a safe direction, I was sure of the target and what is beyond it, but I wasn't quite ready to send that tiny bullet downrange when it happened.

I've paid a lot more attention to when pressure is applied to the trigger since then.
6/8/2010 7:22:44 PM EDT
[#17]
Killed my ceiling with a paintball.

You'd think handling real firearms, I would respect any gun, but I was treating it like a toy and got burned. Raised my respect for the real thing.
6/8/2010 7:23:01 PM EDT
[#18]
double.
6/8/2010 7:25:43 PM EDT
[#19]
Rules. I follow them.
So, no.
6/8/2010 7:29:41 PM EDT
[#20]
Not negligent, maybe accident? (Seven times.)

Bought a new Desert Eagle .44 LONG time ago. Loaded magazine, pulled up on target, squeezed trigger. All eight rounds with one pull. Last round damn near straight up.

Back to Magnum Research with that one.
6/8/2010 7:36:55 PM EDT
[#21]
The closest I ever came was at the range with my Ruger MKI.  This pistol does not lock the "slide" back when the mag is empty.  I thought I had counted ten rounds shot, but when I pulled the trigger again there was a bang instead of the click I was expecting.  Nobody was ever in danger as the weapon was aimed at the target just as if I was going to discharge a round.  It just kind of took me by surprised that I had miscounted the rounds shot.  In over fifty years of shooting that is as close as I have come to an unintentional discharge.
6/8/2010 7:38:17 PM EDT
[#22]



Quoted:


Not negligent, maybe accident? (Seven times.)



Bought a new Desert Eagle .44 LONG time ago. Loaded magazine, pulled up on target, squeezed trigger. All eight rounds with one pull. Last round damn near straight up.



Back to Magnum Research with that one.


Not even accidental... afterall, it wasn't your fault. You had the gun pointed in a safe direction, it was down range. You didn't "accidentally" pull the trigger 8 times.



I actually did once have an "Accidental" discharge. It was pointed down range, I wasnt exactly perfectly lined up with the target though I was starting to pull slack on the trigger... it went off before I was 100% "ready" for the shot. I missed my target, (I think) but there wasn't anything really negligent about it..

 





6/8/2010 10:59:38 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
I've seen some scary ones.  For instance, CLEAR THE DAMN 9MM BEFORE YOU PLACE IT IN THE BARREL!!


Better yet:  don't shoot the heater!
6/8/2010 11:03:22 PM EDT
[#24]
Not yet.

Hopefully that remains a never.
6/8/2010 11:10:32 PM EDT
[#25]
The closest for me was when I was shooting a buddy's older Smith and Wesson 357 and pulled the hammer back for single action, raised the gun up and barely touched the trigger and it went off I hit the very bottom of the paper on a silhouette target a good 15 inches below where I wanted to put the round. He had someone do a trigger job and it was WAY lighter than I was used to.  That was the day I learned the do not put you finger on the trigger until ready to shoot lesson
6/8/2010 11:11:44 PM EDT
[#26]
When I was in basic training the tower made everyone go through some fucked up procedure to clear at the qualification range...basically they assumed that no one had malfunctions/fucked up and had expended all rounds, I can't remember the details but basically the range turned into a big clearing barrel and several guys near me (I was standing behind them waiting to shoot) were told to charge the weapon (tower assumes nothing in it now) and then pull the trigger (supposed to click)....we heard about 10 bangs down the 25 or so lanes lol...fucking idiots in the tower.



The privates knew what they were doing but we were all in robot mode (DO NOT question higher)...so they all pulled the trigger when told to...stupid but funny.  The DSs were so pissed but they wanted to cover it up instead of making a big deal.
6/8/2010 11:14:02 PM EDT
[#27]




Quoted:



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I've seen some scary ones. For instance, CLEAR THE DAMN 9MM BEFORE YOU PLACE IT IN THE BARREL!!




Huh?




When you walk up to the clearing barrel, drop the mag; clear the chamber, and dry fire. Don't just drop the mag and shoot the sand in the barrel.




It wasn't clear what you were talking about at all by the way.




I knew what he was talking about.



I've never had one.
6/8/2010 11:17:18 PM EDT
[#28]
A PA-63



Had a co-worker pu a 556 through his trunk and some gear that was in it during inspection.
6/8/2010 11:22:55 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:





yes.  Flame suit on.  back in my newb days and now I am a gun safety Nazi.  Lesson learned!





That sums up my experience.
 
















eta:  it was an ND, not an AD. Went into the ground, 'cuz I was still following some of the rules.


 
6/8/2010 11:39:34 PM EDT
[#30]
Been handling guns for 20 years (since I was 8), never had one.  Hopefully I never do.
6/8/2010 11:42:06 PM EDT
[#31]
Never had a ND or a AD.
 
6/8/2010 11:55:51 PM EDT
[#32]
None for me so far. Shooting since '67 with a looong dry spot (Navy 45 expert though) restarted after Katrina.   So. Far.

My dad, a CFI, llifetime weapons user, Army-wide competition medalist and retired Col  blew a hole in his wall with a .44 Vaquaro.  Mom was pissed.

My glock makes me nervous.  I carry loaded but not charged.  my leg is scared.  I mentally note each inadvertant triggerfondling.    Not ready to load it
for other than the firing line.
6/9/2010 12:00:36 AM EDT
[#33]
The only ND I had was with a Red Ryder when I was 10. Shot my finger while it was covering the barrel.

I cried.
6/9/2010 6:45:28 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Knock on wood, I haven't but I was sitting 5 feet from a friend that did.  He buried a 5.56 round in his ceiling joist about 3 seconds after I asked him "why did you just chamber a round"?  He was about to hand the gun to his brother in law who is not a gun guy, his reply was "I didn't"  booom.....   I was fucking pissed, I tossed my wife who was sitting on my lap, took his gun from his hands and cleared it (I wanted to butt stroke him with his own rifle) and commenced the ass chewing.  Thank god the round found the joist because his wife was in bed above us (we were in the basement).  Surprisingly, my ears weren't even ringing.


I have been "discharged on" and I had the same experience. If it weren't for the muzzle flash and sudden movement, you wouldn't even know it had happened. (ie, no sound) Weird.
6/9/2010 6:58:44 AM EDT
[#35]
Yep, sad to say.  One for sure, maybe two––––here's the maybe one:  shooting a 9mm BHP at the range, I pulled the trigger and it went "click."  I know you are supposed to wait 30 seconds in case it was a hang fire, but I did not––I waited about 3 or 4 seconds, then went to clear the round in the chamber and try to fire the next one.  As I moved my support hand (and had the weapon turned slightly sideways and angled up, finger off the trigger,) to clear the round, the round cooked off and sailed over the berm.  On a side note, that is the only hang fire I have ever seen like that.
6/9/2010 7:18:20 AM EDT
[#36]
I think I related mine here before.

12 years old and my father, one of his buddies from work and myself went down to one of the lakes on our property to attempt to shoot one of several beaver that had taken up residence.

Went down to the lake about 9 pm with a "spotlight" and my dad's 12 gauge Fox SxS double barrel loaded with 00.

By 11:30 pm or so we decided to call it a night and dad let me carry the shotgun back to the house.  We were walking single file up the path with me in between dad and his friend.  I was carrying the shotgun in a kind of port arms position.  For some reason that I have never figured out I extended my right index finger to what I thought was the trigger guard.  Next thing I know I have pulled the front trigger and fired the right hand barrel.  I still thank God to this day that I was carrying it pointed the way it was and that I didn't kill my father or his friend.  Just that quickly I could have taken someone's life.  It stands as one of the top five lessons I have learned in my 42 years.
6/9/2010 7:20:22 AM EDT
[#37]
Me.  Just a 22lr. Stopped in one wall. Nothing bad happened. I learned a valuable lesson.
6/9/2010 7:28:23 AM EDT
[#38]
Once.  I was deer hunting.  Decided to leave the woods, and go sit on the edge of a corn field for about the last 45 minutes of light.

I exited the woods near a bend in a drainage ditch at the same time a doe came up out of it.

Got my Mossberg 500 up to about port arms when it fired.  Still don't know for sure if I hit the trigger, but I guess I must have.  Habit is to flip off the safety while bringing the gun up to my shoulder.

Of course she took off running, I fired off 3 more shots before she made the cornfield.  Looked down, the safety was still on.
6/9/2010 7:36:12 AM EDT
[#39]
Yes.  Took a shotgun from my inexperienced friend and put it in the back of my suburban. I did not pump the action to clear it.  Shotgun was on safe.  We were dove hunting and there were a couple of dove stools in the back.  I went to move something and moved the gun. Evidently I knocked the safety off and managed to put the leg of one of the the tripod dove stools through the trigger guard. You can guess what happened next. I immediately checked to make sure all my buddies were ok, then checked out the suv.  Could not find the huge exit hole I was expecting. No torn upholstery or broken glass.  WTF?

Turns out the gun was pointed toward the wheel well where the jack resides. The shot made a small hole in the plastic, hit all the insulation and left a small dent in the wheel well above the tire. Never exited.

Got my ass chewed by all my buddies and deservedly so.  Nothing since and hopefully never again.  Each time I pick up a firearm now I think back to that incident and thank my lucky stars I learned a cheap lesson.