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12/12/2007 10:14:38 PM EDT
I have a pretty good friend who mentioned that he was a Navy Corpsman assigned to a Recon Team the other day.

I have known this guy for over a year, and I have never ever known him to lie about anything.  However I was shocked as heck.  I personally just can’t see it.  He is in very good shape, but I don’t see him being able to handle it mentally.  He doesn’t have that mental strength…
But, what do I know?
If someone was assigned to Force Recon as a Corpsman, how tough is this?  I think he was in around ’95 or so.  I am not sure.
12/12/2007 10:18:26 PM EDT
[#1]
Most of the Recon/SF guys I have encountered you would be hard pressed to tag them as "hard" enough.  Not everyone looks like Chuck and swaggers like The Duke
12/12/2007 10:23:06 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Most of the Recon/SF guys I have encountered you would be hard pressed to tag them as "hard" enough.  Not everyone looks like Chuck and swaggers like The Duke


A lot of the guys I have met that were Army SF looked like marathon runners, long and lean.

12/12/2007 11:12:02 PM EDT
[#3]
My best friend is 5'5" 150 lbs and on a west coast seal team and from PI.  He doesn't look bad ass, but they turned him into a warrior.  Looks can be deceptive.
12/13/2007 2:50:50 AM EDT
[#4]
The docs that I knew who who were assigned to force recon were jump and dive qualified and went to goat school at Bragg.

Note- back in the day, force recon was housed in a compound out on Onslow Beach (LeJeune- east coast). They trained all the time and were often on deployment.
12/13/2007 4:21:57 AM EDT
[#5]
Being assigned to Force Recon as a Corpsman is as tough as it is to be there as a Marine.

Today, FR Corpsmen are a different kind of Corpsman, called SARCs(Special Amphibious Reconnaissance Corpsman). I don't know how long SARCs have been around, so it may not apply to someone who was there in 1995.
12/13/2007 4:29:16 AM EDT
[#6]
Its not like the movies where the "elite" forces are 6' 5" 280 lbs and can kill anything with there bare hands.

I was training with a 18C and one of the guys was asking him about how good he was in "hand to hand"  the guy said "if i was in a situation where i didn't have my rifle or pistol or knife that was a very bad day and I dont think a few combatives move would do shit, u are still fucked"

we all thought it was funny

Is Marine Recon under SOCOM?

Whatever your friend was
God bless the "DOCs"
12/13/2007 4:35:53 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:


Note- back in the day, force recon was housed in a compound out on Onslow Beach (LeJeune- east coast). They trained all the time and were often on deployment.


Although noit "Force" anymore, they are still out there at the beach.
12/13/2007 5:17:33 AM EDT
[#8]
A related question:  
How long does acorpsman have to serve with the Marine units in order to wear the Marine Dress Blues?
12/13/2007 5:20:49 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
A related question:  
How long does acorpsman have to serve with the Marine units in order to wear the Marine Dress Blues?
I don't think there is a time limit. AFAIK, Corpsmen may wear blues as long as they are attatched to a Marine unit and conform to Marine Corps height, weight, and grooming regulations. There might be something in there about meeting PT standards as well.
12/13/2007 5:30:31 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
The docs that I knew who who were assigned to force recon were jump and dive qualified and went to goat school at Bragg.

Note- back in the day, force recon was housed in a compound out on Onslow Beach (LeJeune- east coast). They trained all the time and were often on deployment.


What kind of training do they get at goat school?  
12/13/2007 6:02:58 AM EDT
[#11]
Might ask our own member 'usncorpsman1' He's active duty, and was wounded in combat.
12/13/2007 6:06:47 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
He is in very good shape, but I don’t see him being able to handle it mentally.  He doesn’t have that mental strength…
But, what do I know?



If he's an FMF Corpsman, he's got plenty of mental toughness. Some of the hardest men to serve the Marine Corps were Sailors.
12/13/2007 6:13:55 AM EDT
[#13]
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CHAPTER 8: UNIFORMS FOR NAVY PERSONNEL, RESERVE/RETIRED MARINES, MCJROTC, AND CIVILIANS


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8001. NAVY PERSONNEL SERVING WITH MARINE CORPS UNITS


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(1) Marine Corps service uniforms are provided only to those Navy hospital corpsmen, dental technicians, or religious program specialists who elect to wear them. These Navy enlisted will wear Marine Corps service uniforms for the duration of their continuous service with Marine Corps units when directed by the commander. They will abide by Marine Corps grooming and physical appearance standards and, except as otherwise prescribed in this chapter, wear the service uniforms with the same required/optional components and in the same manner as prescribed for Marines.


This was news to me.  I wouldn't have thought our HMs would be allowed to wear Marine uniforms.  Learn something new everyday.

-IT3
12/13/2007 6:34:18 AM EDT
[#14]
I can't speak to whether the OP's friend was or wasn't a doc with Force, but I have never seen a Corpsman in Marine Dress Blues. Alphas (greens), yes, but never Blues.

The above citation is for service uniforms -- Service A, also known as Alphas. Dress Blues are a dress uniform, a different kettle of fish entirely.
12/13/2007 6:46:26 AM EDT
[#15]
He may have just been in a Recon unit, and not "Force Recon".


Just a possibility.
12/13/2007 6:53:00 AM EDT
[#16]
We do not wear Marine dress blues. We wear Alphas and Charlies, if we so desire. This is called "Marine Regs" and we must conform to USMC height/weight and grooming standards as well as passing the Marine Corps PFT.

Some of the hardest people I have ever known could walk by you on the street and you would never notice them.

There is a difference between Force and Battalion recon. The Recon Battalions, plenty of people have been in them without going through BRC or anything. They've even deployed without doing so. Not that Battalion guys aren't hard, but I spent plenty of time with them and regular infantry Marines in the field and on leave/libo I can't tell the difference.


Quoted:
This was news to me.  I wouldn't have thought our HMs would be allowed to wear Marine uniforms.  Learn something new everyday.

-IT3


We go to Marine Corps schools so that we can do so. Even if you're assigned to a unit, you can't wear them without going through those schools. I was with 5th Marines before I went to FMSS and I was one of two people at San Mateo wearing dungarees.