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Link Posted: 3/23/2019 9:11:25 PM EST
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This should do more than you specified. Lawn mower blades, a few odd jobs.
Kobalt Impact
Not the heavy duty, but for occasional use why not. I have had excellent luck with the brand all the way across. If you can wait, some package deals will come along, but for the price, get it and start watching for deals.
You'll need a torque wrench to tighten the lug nuts.
Happy Shopping
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 9:11:30 PM EST
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Has anyone mentioned a Milwaukee Fuel 18v 1/2" impact?  If not, that's where I would start...
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 9:16:57 PM EST
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If you have a decent air supply, that harbor freight is good or look for a used IR for cheap.
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Been using mine for close to 20 years
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 9:17:47 PM EST
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Been using mine for close to 20 years
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 9:27:26 PM EST
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I love my nitro cat.
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 9:27:54 PM EST
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Half the thread.

The price is a bit steep for a twice a year toy. I got mine on sale for $200 with charger and two batteries. Now the new fuels are $500ish for the same setup, though they are better then my old one.
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 10:43:02 PM EST
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I have an outback, the torque for the lug nuts is 58-72, I torque to 65#.  I'd be Leary of using an impact wrench on torque values that low.  All I ever use is a 1/2" breaker bar and a 1/2" torque wrench.

If you want one, unless you already have a compressor and air, I'd go Dewalt, or Milwaukee 20V. cordless.
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 10:48:25 PM EST
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Milwaukee Fuel 1/2" 18v impact

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This
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 11:30:09 PM EST
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dewalt brushless
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 12:03:21 AM EST
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HF earthquake is a great air gun.
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This.

Earthquake all the things.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 12:38:27 AM EST
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These don't transfer torque back to the user. It's all in the impact hammer.

OP, the battery impacts are better than air tools these days. I have the dewalt with 3 torque settings.
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Wrong. The are weaker, louder when the struggle and don't last nearly as long of course im talking about the good brands here. Even if the coreless impact was to last a long time under heavy use, the battery would still be in shit shape and 2 years. That's something the she impact doesn't need to worry about.

I mostly use battery tools at work, but when it comes to impact tools there is still no substitute for air guns. The last longer, there lighter, tougher and stronger. I've used several if the battery impacts and even owned snap on's latest 1/2 lithium impact. One battery is $200 almost half the cost of an air impact. Do the math here, the battery impact cost 300 more from snap on and every to years i have to replace 2 batteries at 200 a pop. My numbers might be a bit off i haven't owned the snap on lithium 1/2" impact in awhile because it's nothing compared to the air gun unless your working without air. But honestly my assessment is accurate on what's better and why. I work on cars for a living use my tools daily.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 12:43:01 AM EST
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I've got a blue point and a harbor freight at the shop. That HF is a powerful impact(1100 ft lb model), had over two years. Have had the blue point since 1987 and it'll handle most anything, but in the occasion it can't, the HF has never failed.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 12:48:17 AM EST
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Twice a year? Why not just buy a corded impact? Why air?
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 12:50:57 AM EST
[#14]
Would the cheapass Harbor Freight 1/2" electric impact not do it?
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 12:54:29 AM EST
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FPNI

And I haven't used a torque wrench in years and have never had anything come loose.  My tractor calls for 450 ft/lbs.  When the 3/4" Fuel hi torque 1200 ft/lb impact almost stops turning I figure we are pretty close. YMMV
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 9:27:41 AM EST
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Link Posted: 3/24/2019 9:33:30 AM EST
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FPNI.

I use all Milwaukee impacts and ratchets. They work great.

Fuck air impacts.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 9:49:29 AM EST
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Link Posted: 3/24/2019 10:03:19 AM EST
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Link Posted: 3/24/2019 10:13:30 AM EST
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left to right
M12 Fuel Stubby 1/2 impact 6.0 battery (250 ft lbs of torque)
M12 Fuel 1/4 hex impact driver 4.0 battery
M12 1/4 Ratchet

And Im about to add the M12 3/8 fuel ratchet and M18 High Torque impact wrench



The Milwaukee M18 1/2 High Torque is amazing in its power @ 1400 ft lbs. Its heavier than a pneumatic but not having to rely on air is great.

For occasional weekend use I recommend the Earthquake XT 20v from Harbor Freight I know a few people with them and they are pretty awesome.  If you still want air power go with 1/2 Earthquake XT pneumatic impact wrench MY step son uses one daily and its just as strong as my Ingersoll Titanium

REguardless of which one you go with get a set of toque sticks as others have said. Those will limit the amount of torque applied by the tool so you don't over tighten. I use  Astro 78810 10-Piece Torque Limiting Extension Setdaily and they great. Ive tested them with my torque wrench and they are accurate.
Snap-on - VS - Harbor Freight ( MG725 / Earthquake XT ) 1/2" Impact Wrenches


Milwaukee M18 FUEL 2763-22 High Torque 1/2" Impact Wrench
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 10:16:26 AM EST
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Wrong. The are weaker, louder when the struggle and don't last nearly as long of course im talking about the good brands here. Even if the coreless impact was to last a long time under heavy use, the battery would still be in shit shape and 2 years. That's something the she impact doesn't need to worry about.

I mostly use battery tools at work, but when it comes to impact tools there is still no substitute for air guns. The last longer, there lighter, tougher and stronger. I've used several if the battery impacts and even owned snap on's latest 1/2 lithium impact. One battery is $200 almost half the cost of an air impact. Do the math here, the battery impact cost 300 more from snap on and every to years i have to replace 2 batteries at 200 a pop. My numbers might be a bit off i haven't owned the snap on lithium 1/2" impact in awhile because it's nothing compared to the air gun unless your working without air. But honestly my assessment is accurate on what's better and why. I work on cars for a living use my tools daily.
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You're pricing is wrong. Ask your snap guy for MRO pricing. Pneumatic is still good for 3/4 and larger, but battery is king now for 1/2 and below (unless clearance matters).
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 10:17:08 AM EST
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For lug nuts, you don't really need the huge wrenches.  Sure, if they were siezed and corroded, maybe, but a touch of anti-sieze on the studs keeps that from happening, even with the road salt and everything that we get here.
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No shit? I already have the small driver and the big one would only get used to change tires. I never thought of that.
What do you use to fit a lug socket onto that?
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 10:21:16 AM EST
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The dewalt 20 volt impact is every bit the equal of Milwaukee and a bit cheaper if you look around.  Incredibly handy.  I find myself using air tools far less these days with the battery life and torque of modern brushless motor battery tools.
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This is the truth. I have the dewalt impact and use it for exactly what the op is describing. On its lowest setting it is perfect for spinning lug nuts on without over tightening. I then finish tighten using an 18" breaker bar. The tire change kit for my truck has at least as long of a wrench so I'm not worried about being unable to get the lug nuts off.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 10:24:12 AM EST
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Wrong. The are weaker, louder when the struggle and don't last nearly as long of course im talking about the good brands here. Even if the coreless impact was to last a long time under heavy use, the battery would still be in shit shape and 2 years. That's something the she impact doesn't need to worry about.

I mostly use battery tools at work, but when it comes to impact tools there is still no substitute for air guns. The last longer, there lighter, tougher and stronger. I've used several if the battery impacts and even owned snap on's latest 1/2 lithium impact. One battery is $200 almost half the cost of an air impact. Do the math here, the battery impact cost 300 more from snap on and every to years i have to replace 2 batteries at 200 a pop. My numbers might be a bit off i haven't owned the snap on lithium 1/2" impact in awhile because it's nothing compared to the air gun unless your working without air. But honestly my assessment is accurate on what's better and why. I work on cars for a living use my tools daily.
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Ive been using my milwaukee m12 ratchet and impact driver daily for years havnt worn out a battery yet. Half of the shop uses the m18 high torque impact which is stronger than my ingersoll titanium.

Snap off electric tools are garbage get milwaukee
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 10:37:47 AM EST
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Twice a year? Why not just buy a corded impact? Why air?
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Thanks
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 10:54:17 AM EST
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Back in the olden days in N Wi it was mandatory to put on snow tires in Nov and have them off by end of March.

My dad (as did most everyone else) extra set of rims with tires mounted...my job was to take them off in spring and put them back on in Nov.

Didn't need a impact wrench back then or even hydraulic jacks...just the old tire iron and jack that came with the vehicle.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 11:04:34 AM EST
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Break loose with a breaker bar, spin off/on with a cordless electric drill, torque to spec with a proper torque wrench.
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That’s what I do.   Milwaukee impact.   It will bust some lug nuts but some it won’t break.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 11:05:53 AM EST
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Back in the olden days in N Wi it was mandatory to put on snow tires in Nov and have them off by end of March.

My dad (as did most everyone else) extra set of rims with tires mounted...my job was to take them off in spring and put them back on in Nov.

Didn't need a impact wrench back then or even hydraulic jacks...just the old tire iron and jack that came with the vehicle.
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Link Posted: 3/24/2019 11:12:07 AM EST
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Also for all you guys with expensive but dead tool batteries,  talk to your local Interstate car battery guy.    I can leave mine at the local garage and he picks them up, sends them in and the replace the cells inside.  

F paying $200 for a new Milwaukee battery.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 11:17:21 AM EST
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I have a compact Aircat brand impact I bought because my bigger one wouldn’t fit in the space I had. I’ve been so impressed with it I now use it for everything. It’s so much lighter than bigger ones too

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Link Posted: 3/24/2019 11:20:39 AM EST
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Link Posted: 3/24/2019 11:41:55 AM EST
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Did I make it in before the Alaskan contingent?
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 11:47:09 AM EST
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I used a cheap Campbell Hausfeld Air impact for lug nuts for 20 years before I bought an IR231. The CH is kind of weak but it worked fine. The IR is much more powerful.

If you already have air, just get a cheap air impact and turn up the pressure.

If you don't have air, get a Milwaukee battery impact.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 11:56:42 AM EST
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Harbor Freight Earthquake is what you seek.
Harbor Freight has bumped up the quality of their products over the past several years, and the Earthquake has gotten rave reviews...so don't be scared.
Yes, use a torque wrench or tighten them by hand with the old star wrench to re-install.
Les Schwab, a major tire chain in this area only uses a torque wrench to re-install if that tells you something.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 12:06:08 PM EST
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I know you already decided on a cheap electric one OP which I think is wise for your needs.

The air ones are great, I have the 231C but they key point here is you need the right air supply to run the thing. You cannot run it off a pancake compressor with a tiny hose. I ended up plumbing in a separate output on my compressor with the larger fittings and have a separate large diameter hose to connect the gun with. There was a noticeable difference in power going from the standard fittings and hose to the larger stuff. Pressure is one thing but you need to be able to maintain that pressure at a high flow rate.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 12:11:38 PM EST
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Get an electric impact from harbor freight
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 12:14:59 PM EST
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We're about as far north as you can get in the US without being in Canadia.  
Did I make it in before the Alaskan contingent?
First thing i noticed yesterday.

Giving him a break because his is from MT and sounds like a old fella.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 12:20:32 PM EST
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Just be aware torque sticks are rated wih a set input torque, like 250 ftlbs.  If you use a 500 ftlb gun, the end value will not be the stick rating.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 1:00:19 PM EST
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IMO:
Never use a power tool to start a lug bolt or lug nut.
Never use a torque limiting bar above 65ft-lb. Finish the job with a real torque wrench.

These things are nice if you want a little speed.
Put your half inch drive socket on a 25" breaker bar, put the matching 3/8 drive socket on this to finish taking the lugs off and put them back on, and finish the job with the torque wrench. I'm fussy, if a lug calls for 95 ft-lb, I'll run them down to 50, 80 and 95 with the torque wrench. I will not go to full torque on any one nut unless the others are all at least half torqued.

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Link Posted: 3/24/2019 1:47:25 PM EST
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IMO:
Never use a power tool to start a lug bolt or lug nut.
Never use a torque limiting bar above 65ft-lb. Finish the job with a real torque wrench.

These things are nice if you want a little speed.
Put your half inch drive socket on a 25" breaker bar, put the matching 3/8 drive socket on this to finish taking the lugs off and put them back on, and finish the job with the torque wrench. I'm fussy, if a lug calls for 95 ft-lb, I'll run them down to 50, 80 and 95 with the torque wrench. I will not go to full torque on any one nut unless the others are all at least half torqued.

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I use a 150ft lb stick on f150s every day with an ingersoll titanium impact. It has never over tightened past the stick rating
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 2:05:10 PM EST
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I got an electric one from harbor freight about five years ago for about $35 on sale, it still works.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 2:09:39 PM EST
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Ive got that same one and she will rip lugs off my tundra. Great tool. Just use caution
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 2:48:01 PM EST
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I do the same as many posters for changing over tires.  I use a 1/2" in breaker (flex handle) to break the nuts loose.  Then I use a RYOBI Lithium drill to spin off the nuts.  Change the tire.  Start the nut by hand (fingers).  Spin the nuts "lightly snug" with the drill.  Torque the nuts with torque wrench.

I've got impact tools, bigger drills, air impacts, etc; but the above is what I use because it's quick and works for me. {Edit: much easier for me to grab a battery than fire up the air compressor and run a hose all around the rig.}

AK doesn't have HF but I have some of their tools I brought up from the lower 48.  I grab a Craftsman torque wrench the most, but have several of the HF that I use from time to time.  Torque wrenches, adapters (drill to socket, etc.), etc. All seem fine; if I break one I won't be bothered.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 2:50:45 PM EST
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Never use a power tool to start a lug bolt or lug nut.
Never use a torque limiting bar above 65ft-lb. Finish the job with a real torque wrench.

These things are nice if you want a little speed.
Put your half inch drive socket on a 25" breaker bar, put the matching 3/8 drive socket on this to finish taking the lugs off and put them back on, and finish the job with the torque wrench. I'm fussy, if a lug calls for 95 ft-lb, I'll run them down to 50, 80 and 95 with the torque wrench. I will not go to full torque on any one nut unless the others are all at least half torqued.

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I use a 150ft lb stick on f150s every day with an ingersoll titanium impact. It has never over tightened past the stick rating
So you're saying after you crank them on with your torque stick then you break out the torque wrench and bring them to 150 lb ft?

If so why do you even bother with the torque stick, and if not how do you know they have never tightened bast the stated value?

For the record, personally when I see a mechanic using torque sticks, I see a plumber with a can of Draino.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 4:25:09 PM EST
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So you're saying after you crank them on with your torque stick then you break out the torque wrench and bring them to 150 lb ft?

If so why do you even bother with the torque stick, and if not how do you know they have never tightened bast the stated value?

For the record, personally when I see a mechanic using torque sticks, I see a plumber with a can of Draino.
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No Im saying Ive checked after using the sticks with a digital torque wrench to verify they are at the correct spec.  No I dont do this every time there is no need too with consistent shop air pressure it sets them at the same torque every time.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 4:37:17 PM EST
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I love my nitro cat.
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Yep. Best impact

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No shit? I already have the small driver and the big one would only get used to change tires. I never thought of that.
What do you use to fit a lug socket onto that?
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For lug nuts, you don't really need the huge wrenches.  Sure, if they were siezed and corroded, maybe, but a touch of anti-sieze on the studs keeps that from happening, even with the road salt and everything that we get here.
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No shit? I already have the small driver and the big one would only get used to change tires. I never thought of that.
What do you use to fit a lug socket onto that?
1/4" hex to 1/2" drive adapter.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 8:15:28 PM EST
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You nearly always get what you pay for. But pretty much all tools will meet OP’s needs.

Impact Gun - Ingersol Rand VS Husky
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 8:36:03 PM EST
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I have a Dewalt 20v Max, and a Craftsman 120vac 1/2 impact wrenchs.
They both work very well and no need for a compressor or wait until it catches back up.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 8:46:09 PM EST
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I got a porter cable for $55 shipped on eBay. Brand new.
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