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5/27/2005 10:03:27 AM EDT
I'm sure this question as been asked here before, but does anyone have any suggestions for a good web design program?

In the past I have used Frontpage and it seemed pretty user friendly, but maybe there is something better.  I don't won't to spend more than a couple hundred dollars if I can help it.  I have to build a website for a business my wife is starting so I will need to setup credit card purchasing and all that sort of stuff.

Thanks for any suggestions.
5/27/2005 10:56:51 AM EDT
[#1]
Notepad.


and be happy I didn't suggest vi.


Oh, you meant a program to make web pages for you?  There's a non WYSIWYG HTML editor from a copany called CoffeeCup (I think it's coffeecup.com) that's pretty cool and has a free trial and all that, but the real program you want for WYSIWYG editing is Dreamweaver, and that's a little more than your budget supports. Just don't use Frontpage again, it does bad things to webapges when you're not looking. I've heard mixed reviews about Adobe GoLive, but I'm unsure of the price.
5/27/2005 11:03:05 AM EDT
[#2]
dreamweaver
5/27/2005 11:05:08 AM EDT
[#3]
Notepad, Vi, Vim

Dreamweaver is a good program.

I also read in another thread a while back that Netscape had a good program.
5/27/2005 11:08:00 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Notepad.


and be happy I didn't suggest vi.


Oh, you meant a program to make web pages for you?  There's a non WYSIWYG HTML editor from a copany called CoffeeCup (I think it's coffeecup.com) that's pretty cool and has a free trial and all that, but the real program you want for WYSIWYG editing is Dreamweaver, and that's a little more than your budget supports. Just don't use Frontpage again, it does bad things to webapges when you're not looking. I've heard mixed reviews about Adobe GoLive, but I'm unsure of the price.


+1 on Dreamweaver...very pricey though...and compared to Frontpage, not as easy.
5/27/2005 11:09:01 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
dreamweaver


+1
5/27/2005 11:09:32 AM EDT
[#6]
Just outsource it to India
5/27/2005 12:11:46 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Notepad, Vi, Vim

Dreamweaver is a good program.

I also read in another thread a while back that Netscape had a good program.



I'm so used to standalone FireFox that I forgot all about Netscape/Mozilla composer

Yeah, try Mozilla composer. It's free and if you don't like it you're not out any money.
5/27/2005 1:14:09 PM EDT
[#8]
FrontPage is a lot better than Dreamweaver in terms of publishing. FrontPage does a really good job of tracking what's changed so when you publish, it adds, updates, and deletes as needed.

Dreamweaver supports web programming - PHP, CF, etc better and has much better support for layers if you're using them. Dreamweaver pretty much requires that you use CSS - it's really clunky if you choose not to.

I use both and I wrestle with which to use when I start new websites. You're pretty much committed to whichever you start with. Neither does a good job of editing the other's code.

I'd say FrontPage unless your websites are pretty sophisticated, then use Dreamweaver.

BTW, the menu generator that DreamWeaver has is a POS. Don't even waste your time with it.
5/27/2005 1:24:56 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
dreamweaver



+100

HH
5/27/2005 1:31:58 PM EDT
[#10]
i also build websites, Dreamweaver has been the leader for some time,  supports and intergrates very easy with Macromedia stuff.  Has some problems working with ASP.NET code, but overall that is the direction i woud push you.

Frontpage is good for beginners but puts allot html/xml code in pages that does not need to be there.


Dreamweaver has a steep learning curve,  but it better hands down.

Now in the future i don't know about dreamweaver because Macromedia sold out to Adobe, which its webtools have suck from day one and actual gotten worse.


5/27/2005 1:38:53 PM EDT
[#11]
Evrsoft's 1stPage

You can't beat it for free.  I even used it alongside Visual Studio 6 to help with formatting (indenting code properly) and finding unclosed tags.
5/27/2005 1:48:10 PM EDT
[#12]
+1 on Dreamweaver.

Notepad, a browser and a code ref is best if you really want to learn.
Back in the day I helped beta test a nice "editor for coders" called Web-O-Rama, it is a nice step
up from notepad and is free.

www.kevingunn.com/weborama.htm
5/27/2005 1:50:10 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Evrsoft's 1stPage

You can't beat it for free.  I even used it alongside Visual Studio 6 to help with formatting (indenting code properly) and finding unclosed tags.



Yes, I've used it before as well. One of the best free html progs out there.
5/27/2005 1:58:13 PM EDT
[#14]
I use Frontpage for my sites.  It's been pretty consistent, easy to use and intuitive.  However, those damn extensions DO present problems every once in a while and need to be reset.  That's my only negative comment, the extensions.
5/27/2005 2:28:20 PM EDT
[#15]
I haven't installed it yet but it was recommended in another thread
nvu.com/
5/27/2005 2:32:38 PM EDT
[#16]
I liked NetObject's Fusion but it's sense gone crappy, gone out of business, and bought up by a second party. I still use a five year old copy of verison 4 that just does fine.

5/27/2005 2:35:52 PM EDT
[#17]
Dreamweaver can do oodles of stuff, but it will be 5-10 years before you understand it well enough to use it.  Use your favorite text editor and hand code the HTML, PHP, or JavaScript.  You'll get the job done in 6 months instead of 5-10 years.