Posted: 5/7/2014 11:21:05 AM EDT
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Right now i have a pair of ego-t batteries and a pair of Kanger T3s. One of them got gunked up and draws VERY hard now. I could clean it out but i think it's time to upgrade...
I've had issues with both spitting, they don't hit very hard and they produce a dissapointing amount of vapor. I'd be willing to go with a whole new setup if need be but these just aren't enjoyable anymore. Been smoking more cigarettes lately in place If vaping. I'm open to any thing including rebuildables but i don't know much about ohms and amps and resistance and...stuff. I realize it can't be that confusing but I've never done much research. I just want a good god damn setup that will keep me off the cigs. Suggestions? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Easiest: iTaste MVP 2.0 + Aspire Nautilus tank. $40 + $35ish.
Easiest with smaller form factor: iTaste VV 3.0 + Kanger Protank 2 mini. $40 + $15 Intermediate (requires rebuilding): iTaste MVP 2.0 with decent clone Kayfun 3.1 tank (HCigar brand I believe most people say is the best clone). $40 + $42. Intermediate (smaller form factor but a little less performance): iTaste VV 3.0 + Kayfun mini 2.1. $34 + $35 (if there's another group sell here; if not, about $50). What I like: mechanical mod clone ($25) + AW IMR 18500 battery ($10) + Same Kayfun 3.1 as above. --you will need a device to read ohms. I use my MVP which has a feature to read the resistance of the coil you made for your rebuildable Kayfun. They sell stand-alone ohm meters for about $15 as well. You can also use a general purpose AC/DC meter but it's a lot more work. Also feel free to ask us anything about making your own coils and such. There's a stickied topic here about it as well. It really is quite simple IMO (if you can take a gun apart, clean it, and put it back together you shouldn't have any problems). |
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If you want a rebuildable tank, get a Kayfun. Either the lite or the 3.1. If you don't, I'd go with the Aspire Nautilus. I'd stick with a variable voltage mod. Something with pretty good maH. I have an eVic, but it's spendy and some people have reliability issues with them not being able to take bumps/drops real well. You'll be able to control the Volts/Watts this way, so if you're able to better control how your vapor production occurs. No experience, but a MVP is supposedly nice and can be had around $40 delivered for the kit with a iClear tank. VTRs are beefier and more expensive, but the damn thing could also be a blunt force weapon if it needed to be. If you want a mechanical mod, others will be along shortly with much more experience in that department. I'm still waiting on my first in the mail, so I'll leave any pros/cons to the pros.
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Thanks for the suggestions. Money isn't really an issue when I'm using this to cut back on cigs. Durability is important as I plan on carrying it in my cargo pocket at work and sometimes my job involves some awkward situations (emt).
What is all involved in a rebuildable kit? Edit: or full mechanical mod. Not against the idea of a little extra tinkering for a better vaping experience. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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So many options, we need more info.
What's you tolerance in terms of form factor? Can you carry something larger, or is small important? Expectations concerning battery life? Is USB chargeable important or are external batteries ok? Looking for an at home device or something for on the go? You mentioned rebuildables. Do you like to tinker with stuff or would you prefer something that just works without messing with anything? While function is generally better than form, do you want some bling? or don't care about appearance? And last of all, budget? |
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Intermediate (requires rebuilding): iTaste MVP 2.0 with decent clone Kayfun 3.1 tank (HCigar brand I believe most people say is the best clone). $40 + $42. This is what I'm using right now and I like it a lot. Building coils is stupid easy if you follow directions in the sticky here. I also know virtually nothing about electricity. |
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Portability is important but I can carry a pretty good sized device. At best it needs to fit in a large cargo pocket.
Doesn't nees to be usb. Edit: battery would need to last at least 24hrs of light/moderate use. Function over form by far. Tinkering is ok. It would be a learning experience but I've built computers before using just the Internet to guide me. I cant imagine this is much different. Money isn't a limiting factor Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Durability is important as I plan on carrying it in my cargo pocket at work and sometimes my job involves some awkward situations (emt). Quoted:
Durability is important as I plan on carrying it in my cargo pocket at work and sometimes my job involves some awkward situations (emt). Mechanical mods are (usually) the most durable of all. There's no electronic chips, no wires, just a tube, a mechanical button + your tank of choice screwed on top. Picking one with a robust locking button would be good (so it doesn't accidentally fire in your pocket and burn out the coil you just made). Quoted:
What is all involved in a rebuildable kit? As in what things you need? You need 28 gauge Kanthal wire, some organic cotton balls (which any grocery store/CVS type place will sell), and an ohm meter to measure resistance (if none of your other devices read resistance). I suggest watching a youtube video on rebuilding a kayfun - it'll explain a lot. Basically (VERY basic) you wrap some wire around something small like a 5/64" drillbit, attach it to the Kayfun via two little screw posts, then put a piece of organic cotton ball through, trim and tuck the wicks and you're done. Takes me all of like like 3 minutes now. Quoted:
Edit: battery would need to last at least 24hrs of light/moderate use. You should always carry an extra battery, and extra tank, and some juice with you to make it through the day(and to ensure you don't have an excuse to smoke a real cigarette). An 18500 battery lasts me all day long (1100mah), but there's also 18650 batteries which more than double that capacity (Sony VTC5's are 2600mah). Some mechanical mods can telescope to accept 18350 (18mm diameter, 35mm long), 18500 (18mm wide, 50 mm long), and 18650's batteries (65mm long). These are nice because if you're going out on town and want something smaller, you just collapse the battery tube. Other mods have a different battery tube you use for each size battery; unscrew one, screw the other one on and you're all set. |
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Portability is important but I can carry a pretty good sized device. At best it needs to fit in a large cargo pocket. Doesn't nees to be usb. Edit: battery would need to last at least 24hrs of light/moderate use. Function over form by far. Tinkering is ok. It would be a learning experience but I've built computers before using just the Internet to guide me. I cant imagine this is much different. Money isn't a limiting factor Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile For mods/batteries: The MVP2 has already been recommended and is a solid choice. It's inexpensive and has tons and tons of battery life. It's reasonably well-built but I wouldn't call it a tank. Still at the price, it's easily replaced if something breaks. The downside is that it's kinda big, is awkward with a lot of tanks and is limited to 11 watts. I think someone also recommended the VTR. I haven't used one myself, but from what I read that would be a solid choice. Again, like the MVP it's a box style mod if that matters to you. By all accounts you could use one as a self defense weapon and beat someone over the head with it, so I suspect the ruggedness would suit you. I've heard of some tank compatibility issues but I'll let someone who owns one comment on that. It'll do 15 watts and fire fairly low ohm coils. If your budget allows for it, the Provari is a good choice. I know some will claim they're dated (and there's some validity to that) and that they're overpriced. I'll argue on the price all day long. I own a couple and they're rock solid reliable and built like tanks without feeling like you're lugging around a brick. Some people baby their because they spend a lot of money of it. You don't need to. It'll do 14.5 watts, so more than the MVP2 but slightly less than the VTR. For the use you describe, I wouldn't recommend most mechanicals. Yes, they're rugged and simple. My objection is from a practical standpoint. If you're active at your job, you're either going to be constantly fiddling with the locking ring, or having it fire in your pocket. There are no electronics in a mech to stop the button from firing for a prolonged period if it's pushed in a bag or your pocket. In terms of tanks: If you don't want to rebuild, get a nautilus and probably a steel tank for it. If you wouldn't mind rebuilding, get a kayfun clone and be done with it. They're real easy to build. |
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What about the Provair makes it earn the title "dated" aside from the age of the design? Any significant short comings? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile They don't have all the bells and whistles... One button and adjustable only by voltage. Simple, effective, though as nails & dead nuts reliable. |
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If you don't mind dropping the coin, a ProVari mini with extension end cap to run 18500 & an aspire nautilus with the metal tank would be a hard combo to beat. Then if you want to get into rebuilding get a ehpro Kayfun lite+ v2 for +\- $40, slap it on the ProVari, and it will be pure tits.
Three 18500 battery's would last most anyone 24hr, so you could carry a couple extra and some juice and be good to go. |
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They don't have all the bells and whistles... One button and adjustable only by voltage. Simple, effective, though as nails & dead nuts reliable. Quoted:
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What about the Provair makes it earn the title "dated" aside from the age of the design? Any significant short comings? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile They don't have all the bells and whistles... One button and adjustable only by voltage. Simple, effective, though as nails & dead nuts reliable. Additionally, they only fire up to 14.5 watts whereas a lot of the newer regulated devices will do 20 or even 30 watts. That's more than enough for most people's all day vape, but might be limiting for some that like to really crank the power. The thing is though, I've never heard a Provari owner complain about what they got for their money. |
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What about the Provair makes it earn the title "dated" aside from the age of the design? It's dated because it doesn't do Variable Wattage (VW), just Variable Voltage (VV). The difference is Variable Wattage (VW) will put the same total power through your Kayfun no matter what. Doesn't matter if you switch Kayfun's and the two of them are a slightly different resistance (ohm) from each other. Doesn't matter if the coil starts to get a little dirty and resistance changes (VW will change the power so, in theory, your juice will taste the same no matter what). Doesn't matter if you open up the air-flow and it starts to cool off the coil just a little bit; that coil will still heat up the same every time (these are loose examples just to show a point). Variable Voltage (VV) just adjusts the voltage. Nothing else. You'll have to adjust it more on your own instead of having the machine do it for you (to get a consistent vape throughout the tank, and with different tanks). An Analogy is if you want to maintain 70 MPH on the highway. VW is an automatic transmission. Doesn't matter what hills you hit it'll keep that same speed. VV is a manual transmission; you'll have to shift (adjust) from time to time to maintain that speed. ...and to add insult to injury the Provari only has one button. You have to hit it something like 10 times, in a certain sequence to adjust the voltage on it (ok, it's not that bad but on pretty much every other device you hold one button for a second then hit it again to change power). The single button was what also killed it for me. WAY too much work for something that should be simple. As far as quality of vaping, the ProVari and the MVP 2.0 will vape EXACTLY the same. They both use the same algorithm and the same way of delivering power (many other VV/VW devices use a crappier way of delivering power which people say they notice). You can buy 4 (FOUR) MVP's for the price of ONE Provari. Just like guns, you're most likely going to get sick of whatever mod you have and switch it up from time to time so I personally wouldn't buy something as expensive as the Provari starting off. |
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Anyone have any experience with the VTR compared to the MVP2.0?
I'm leaning heavily towards the MVP2.0 but if the VTR gives the same quality with extra durability I'd go that route. Seems like my best choices to go with that would be a nautilus or kayfun depending on I'd i want to try my hand at building coils or not? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I just ordered a VTR. It comes with a Samsung 18650 2600mah battery and an iClear 30s. Got a second iClear with some replacement carts for it. Going to start there for now and see how it goes.
I like that the iClear 30s fits snugly in the VTR so it's a bit more compact than if i went with the nautilus. I may upgrade later to something for home use or to try building my own coils but for right now this should be a big upgrade. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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You will like the VTR. It was recommended by one of the members here, and its my first mod. It has both VV and VW, I use the VW. The iclear 30s tanks never gave me a problem, just fill and use. I suggested an extra tank so you can rinse it and the coil heads and let dry. The VTR does come with an extension so you could use a re-buildable tank like the Kayfun lite plus, and it gives ohm readings. I got me a mech mod to basically play with at home, along with a few drippers and re-buildable tanks. I kinda got moused into a few purchases, but its all good.
ETA: The VTR is a real heavy mod, but you will appreciate the quality. Drop it and likely you will chip concrete. |
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It's dated because it doesn't do Variable Wattage (VW), just Variable Voltage (VV). The difference is Variable Wattage (VW) will put the same total power through your Kayfun no matter what. Doesn't matter if you switch Kayfun's and the two of them are a slightly different resistance (ohm) from each other. Doesn't matter if the coil starts to get a little dirty and resistance changes (VW will change the power so, in theory, your juice will taste the same no matter what). Doesn't matter if you open up the air-flow and it starts to cool off the coil just a little bit; that coil will still heat up the same every time (these are loose examples just to show a point). Variable Voltage (VV) just adjusts the voltage. Nothing else. You'll have to adjust it more on your own instead of having the machine do it for you (to get a consistent vape throughout the tank, and with different tanks). An Analogy is if you want to maintain 70 MPH on the highway. VW is an automatic transmission. Doesn't matter what hills you hit it'll keep that same speed. VV is a manual transmission; you'll have to shift (adjust) from time to time to maintain that speed. ...and to add insult to injury the Provari only has one button. You have to hit it something like 10 times, in a certain sequence to adjust the voltage on it (ok, it's not that bad but on pretty much every other device you hold one button for a second then hit it again to change power). The single button was what also killed it for me. WAY too much work for something that should be simple. As far as quality of vaping, the ProVari and the MVP 2.0 will vape EXACTLY the same. They both use the same algorithm and the same way of delivering power (many other VV/VW devices use a crappier way of delivering power which people say they notice). You can buy 4 (FOUR) MVP's for the price of ONE Provari. Just like guns, you're most likely going to get sick of whatever mod you have and switch it up from time to time so I personally wouldn't buy something as expensive as the Provari starting off. Quoted:
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What about the Provair makes it earn the title "dated" aside from the age of the design? It's dated because it doesn't do Variable Wattage (VW), just Variable Voltage (VV). The difference is Variable Wattage (VW) will put the same total power through your Kayfun no matter what. Doesn't matter if you switch Kayfun's and the two of them are a slightly different resistance (ohm) from each other. Doesn't matter if the coil starts to get a little dirty and resistance changes (VW will change the power so, in theory, your juice will taste the same no matter what). Doesn't matter if you open up the air-flow and it starts to cool off the coil just a little bit; that coil will still heat up the same every time (these are loose examples just to show a point). Variable Voltage (VV) just adjusts the voltage. Nothing else. You'll have to adjust it more on your own instead of having the machine do it for you (to get a consistent vape throughout the tank, and with different tanks). An Analogy is if you want to maintain 70 MPH on the highway. VW is an automatic transmission. Doesn't matter what hills you hit it'll keep that same speed. VV is a manual transmission; you'll have to shift (adjust) from time to time to maintain that speed. ...and to add insult to injury the Provari only has one button. You have to hit it something like 10 times, in a certain sequence to adjust the voltage on it (ok, it's not that bad but on pretty much every other device you hold one button for a second then hit it again to change power). The single button was what also killed it for me. WAY too much work for something that should be simple. As far as quality of vaping, the ProVari and the MVP 2.0 will vape EXACTLY the same. They both use the same algorithm and the same way of delivering power (many other VV/VW devices use a crappier way of delivering power which people say they notice). You can buy 4 (FOUR) MVP's for the price of ONE Provari. Just like guns, you're most likely going to get sick of whatever mod you have and switch it up from time to time so I personally wouldn't buy something as expensive as the Provari starting off. As a 2.5 week newb, you're making the operation of the provari out to be much more complicated than it really is. I think it took me 30 minutes to figure out the button. Using a decent tank, I've not had to change voltage midway through. That may change the longer I do this of course. But using a good tank (nautilus) this hasn't been an issue. Based on the reading/research I did, the provari is the most reliable mod available at this time. One of the only ones that I had to dig to find complaints. I will say this, the nerd/hobbyist side of me does think the mechanical mods and OLED-equipped mods are kinda neat. Your argument for VW is the only one that makes sense to me and does add some measure of convenience (not having to change voltage when changing atomizers). |
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Quoted: As a 2.5 week newb, you're making the operation of the provari out to be much more complicated than it really is. I think it took me 30 minutes to figure out the button. Using a decent tank, I've not had to change voltage midway through. That may change the longer I do this of course. But using a good tank (nautilus) this hasn't been an issue. Based on the reading/research I did, the provari is the most reliable mod available at this time. One of the only ones that I had to dig to find complaints. I will say this, the nerd/hobbyist side of me does think the mechanical mods and OLED-equipped mods are kinda neat. Your argument for VW is the only one that makes sense to me and does add some measure of convenience (not having to change voltage when changing atomizers). Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What about the Provair makes it earn the title "dated" aside from the age of the design? It's dated because it doesn't do Variable Wattage (VW), just Variable Voltage (VV). The difference is Variable Wattage (VW) will put the same total power through your Kayfun no matter what. Doesn't matter if you switch Kayfun's and the two of them are a slightly different resistance (ohm) from each other. Doesn't matter if the coil starts to get a little dirty and resistance changes (VW will change the power so, in theory, your juice will taste the same no matter what). Doesn't matter if you open up the air-flow and it starts to cool off the coil just a little bit; that coil will still heat up the same every time (these are loose examples just to show a point). Variable Voltage (VV) just adjusts the voltage. Nothing else. You'll have to adjust it more on your own instead of having the machine do it for you (to get a consistent vape throughout the tank, and with different tanks). An Analogy is if you want to maintain 70 MPH on the highway. VW is an automatic transmission. Doesn't matter what hills you hit it'll keep that same speed. VV is a manual transmission; you'll have to shift (adjust) from time to time to maintain that speed. ...and to add insult to injury the Provari only has one button. You have to hit it something like 10 times, in a certain sequence to adjust the voltage on it (ok, it's not that bad but on pretty much every other device you hold one button for a second then hit it again to change power). The single button was what also killed it for me. WAY too much work for something that should be simple. As far as quality of vaping, the ProVari and the MVP 2.0 will vape EXACTLY the same. They both use the same algorithm and the same way of delivering power (many other VV/VW devices use a crappier way of delivering power which people say they notice). You can buy 4 (FOUR) MVP's for the price of ONE Provari. Just like guns, you're most likely going to get sick of whatever mod you have and switch it up from time to time so I personally wouldn't buy something as expensive as the Provari starting off. As a 2.5 week newb, you're making the operation of the provari out to be much more complicated than it really is. I think it took me 30 minutes to figure out the button. Using a decent tank, I've not had to change voltage midway through. That may change the longer I do this of course. But using a good tank (nautilus) this hasn't been an issue. Based on the reading/research I did, the provari is the most reliable mod available at this time. One of the only ones that I had to dig to find complaints. I will say this, the nerd/hobbyist side of me does think the mechanical mods and OLED-equipped mods are kinda neat. Your argument for VW is the only one that makes sense to me and does add some measure of convenience (not having to change voltage when changing atomizers). He looks at the Provari the way I do, and he's right about the pulse width modulation and it having a rattlesnake effect. It's something you can actually hear. This never bothered me one bit, but it's a selling point nevertheless. Personally I think you would be better off spending less on the device, and more on tanks/juice/heads... but the Provari isn't a bad device. It's dated because it won't fire low and it's limited, aside from not having wattage. There are DNA 20 mods out there for $80, there's no reason the Provari can't use that chip, or it's own version. |
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Provape really does need to update them. I love my Provari's and if I could only have one regulated mod, out of all of them I have, I'd take a Provari all day long even with it's shortcomings. If Provape would make a few changes, I'd also prefer their chipset to the DNA30. 1) Update to variable wattage. I think this is mainly marketing (as opposed to VV) but it's what that market is now. 2) Up the limit to 30 watts at least. 50 watts would but them far ahead of the DNA30's. I don't really care about firing low ohm coils on a regulated mod so I'm ok with the limitation there. 3) As opposed to some, I actually like the 1 button interface. The less stuff to press on the mod, the better as far as I'm concerned. I would however, like a way to turn it on/off without having to get into the menu system. |
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I just ordered a VTR. It comes with a Samsung 18650 2600mah battery and an iClear 30s. Got a second iClear with some replacement carts for it. Going to start there for now and see how it goes. Good setup, but the VTR has a major choke point (for vaping growth) in my opinion. You can only fit certain tanks on the side of it. A VERY limited selection of tanks. If you want to use something like the Kayfun (arguably the best) you have to use the adapter, then you have nearly an inch of wasted space on the side of the unit, then your unit just grew 2-3" taller because the tank now has to sit on top of it...gets kinda monstrous to fit in a pocket. Only benefit over the MVP (besides a very small wattage jump...which most people don't vape at anyway), is the VTR does have replaceable batteries; whereas the MVP only lasts as long as the battery pack lasts (which is still a super long time for most people, but still). |
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Not long ago i was in the same boat as you.
Ended up picking up a iTaste VTR and a Kranger Aerotank. Great combo and good amounts of vapor and flavor. You can even rebuild it, i believe Rip Trippers did a video on it. I've rebuilt mine probably a dozen or so times and once you get the hang of it its pretty easy IMHO |
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Good setup, but the VTR has a major choke point (for vaping growth) in my opinion. You can only fit certain tanks on the side of it. A VERY limited selection of tanks. If you want to use something like the Kayfun (arguably the best) you have to use the adapter, then you have nearly an inch of wasted space on the side of the unit, then your unit just grew 2-3" taller because the tank now has to sit on top of it...gets kinda monstrous to fit in a pocket. Only benefit over the MVP (besides a very small wattage jump...which most people don't vape at anyway), is the VTR does have replaceable batteries; whereas the MVP only lasts as long as the battery pack lasts (which is still a super long time for most people, but still). Quoted:
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I just ordered a VTR. It comes with a Samsung 18650 2600mah battery and an iClear 30s. Got a second iClear with some replacement carts for it. Going to start there for now and see how it goes. Good setup, but the VTR has a major choke point (for vaping growth) in my opinion. You can only fit certain tanks on the side of it. A VERY limited selection of tanks. If you want to use something like the Kayfun (arguably the best) you have to use the adapter, then you have nearly an inch of wasted space on the side of the unit, then your unit just grew 2-3" taller because the tank now has to sit on top of it...gets kinda monstrous to fit in a pocket. Only benefit over the MVP (besides a very small wattage jump...which most people don't vape at anyway), is the VTR does have replaceable batteries; whereas the MVP only lasts as long as the battery pack lasts (which is still a super long time for most people, but still). Oh i know. I will probably pick up a kayfun and dabble with it. If I really like it ill see how many porability issues I run in to. If it becomes that big of a problem ill pick up a smaller mod/battery for the go. I was up in the air between the VTR and MVP but if i can't tote the MVP around I'm not sure I'd carry the MVP anyways. I like the replaceable battery and durability factor. I'll probably just keep it in the ambulance cab. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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If the VTR had a way to just charge it straight off USB I'd own one. Didn't want to have to get extra chargers and batteries and so on. I have enough stuff to tote around. Pretty happy with my MVP, it is just kinda boring looking. Get a jwrap for it? |
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If the VTR had a way to just charge it straight off USB I'd own one. Didn't want to have to get extra chargers and batteries and so on. I have enough stuff to tote around. Pretty happy with my MVP, it is just kinda boring looking. Get a jwrap for it? Thought about it, but it kind of seems like pimping out a Festiva. I have a feeling some cool stuff is coming down the pipe here soon as far as box mods go, I mean it has to happen when stuff like the VTR an MVP are some of the better looking ones. The form factor of the VTR seems like it would be something that would spurn a trend at least. A hybrid of the two would be pretty tits for me. |
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I have a feeling some cool stuff is coming down the pipe here soon as far as box mods go Already here man. Google "dna 30 mod". There's everything from old-school Nintendo (NES) controllers, to handmade wood box mods, to box mods made out of an Altoids tin can, a cool Art-Deco one, to brazilian tigerwood inlaid with mother of pearl pipe mods... |
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Thought about it, but it kind of seems like pimping out a Festiva. I have a feeling some cool stuff is coming down the pipe here soon as far as box mods go, I mean it has to happen when stuff like the VTR an MVP are some of the better looking ones. The form factor of the VTR seems like it would be something that would spurn a trend at least. A hybrid of the two would be pretty tits for me. Quoted:
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If the VTR had a way to just charge it straight off USB I'd own one. Didn't want to have to get extra chargers and batteries and so on. I have enough stuff to tote around. Pretty happy with my MVP, it is just kinda boring looking. Get a jwrap for it? Thought about it, but it kind of seems like pimping out a Festiva. I have a feeling some cool stuff is coming down the pipe here soon as far as box mods go, I mean it has to happen when stuff like the VTR an MVP are some of the better looking ones. The form factor of the VTR seems like it would be something that would spurn a trend at least. A hybrid of the two would be pretty tits for me. Maybe you should cozy up to Victorgonzales and get him to make a DNA box mod.  I received one of his mechanical box mods yesterday, and it's damn nice!!
I need to post some pics, but it looks really good with a black kayfun peeking out of the top. 
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Quoted: Maybe you should cozy up to Victorgonzales and get him to make a DNA box mod. I received one of his mechanical box mods yesterday, and it's damn nice!!I need to post some pics, but it looks really good with a black kayfun peeking out of the top. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If the VTR had a way to just charge it straight off USB I'd own one. Didn't want to have to get extra chargers and batteries and so on. I have enough stuff to tote around. Pretty happy with my MVP, it is just kinda boring looking. Get a jwrap for it? Thought about it, but it kind of seems like pimping out a Festiva. I have a feeling some cool stuff is coming down the pipe here soon as far as box mods go, I mean it has to happen when stuff like the VTR an MVP are some of the better looking ones. The form factor of the VTR seems like it would be something that would spurn a trend at least. A hybrid of the two would be pretty tits for me. Maybe you should cozy up to Victorgonzales and get him to make a DNA box mod. I received one of his mechanical box mods yesterday, and it's damn nice!!I need to post some pics, but it looks really good with a black kayfun peeking out of the top. |
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Quoted: I'll get a quote for you on the dna 30 clones. Gotta buy 5 minimum though.Quoted: Quoted: Its a plan for the future. Got any source for cheap dna chips or clones? You seem to be good it finding deals. I'll get a quote for you on the dna 30 clones. Gotta buy 5 minimum though. |
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Its a plan for the future. Got any source for cheap dna chips or clones? You seem to be good it finding deals. I'll get a quote for you on the dna 30 clones. Gotta buy 5 minimum though.IM inbound.. 
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Idk what's going on. I picked standard shipping when i purchased it yesterday at 1am. It's currently listed as on a delivery vehicle in my town on the way to my front door. I...what? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Nice... Sound like you ordered from MBV. Actually ordered it from freedom..something. I can't recall offhand. They did fuck up and forget to send a battery with it even though I did pick one on the list but I didn't pay extra so it's not a big deal, especially considering I got it the next day. I also ordered it on my smartphone so I wouldn't be surprised if there was an issue with the phone's browser not actually selecting it even though it showed up on my screen. |