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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:44:05 PM EDT
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I figured I would come in to this thread and take the farmers side because I also have cows and shit happens, but how the fuck does he not have a fence? Even if it’s not required by law.
I can’t imagine getting so twisted up about my yard that I carried my neighbor to court. I hope you can just talk to him and avoid any more trouble. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:44:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  How about the neighbor builds his own fucking fence to keep HIS cows out of EVEYBODY ELSES business? Wrecking the neighbors yard, interrupting traffic, etc, etc, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ask to the neighbor to go halfsies on a fence? How about the neighbor builds his own fucking fence to keep HIS cows out of EVEYBODY ELSES business? Wrecking the neighbors yard, interrupting traffic, etc, etc, etc. Depends on the laws of the state. My state, for example, is an open range state. Don't want cattle or sheep on your property? Better build a fence designed to keep them out. That said, I'm sure OP can sue for damages |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:45:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:45:14 PM EDT
[#4]
Go do donuts on your neighbor's property and shit on his front lawn.
Turnabout is fair play. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:47:26 PM EDT
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You don't have a state posted so it's hard to give advice.
For example. Texas is an open-range state. The owner doesn't really have to control his cattle and you can't do anything about it other than put up a fence. He can claim ignorance about their trespassing. But...the county that we lease in has closed range rules. A fence was run through by illegals and then the neighbor's cows came onto our property. They wrecked havok...ate almost 10k in deer feed, broke pens and feeders and cameras, ruined roads, etc. We called the owner but no answer. Then we called the sheriff and he came out and tried to contact the owner. After five days, they came out and impounded the cows. After a certain amount of time the cows were sold at auction. It really sucks for the owner but if you depend on cattle to make a living, keeping track of them shouldnt be done on a quarterly basis. He hates us now and has shot up our stands, knocked over feeders, etc. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:47:41 PM EDT
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Shouldn't this be like the previous thread about how if a neighbor has a fruit tree with branches intruding onto your property, the fruit that falls on your land is now in your legal possession?
Guy didn't keep the cow in, it's now on your land, free beef, except for butchering/processing cost. Once or twice, maybe let it slide, after the 3rd time, yeah, burgers & steaks. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:47:46 PM EDT
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We’ve caught cows in the hog traps. 400 pounds of ground beef for a $6.50 bag of corn. What a trade.
J/k. We herd them back over to their side of the fence. Living the country life. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:48:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WHATFUCKINGSTATE????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:48:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We’ve caught cows in the hog traps. 400 pounds of ground beef for a $6.50 bag of corn. What a trade. J/k. We herd them back over to their side of the fence. Living the country life. Submit bill to the owner for your costs incurred. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:49:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My first option would be to ask them to Fix the yard. Second option is getting an expensive landscaper to fix it and send them the bill. If they don't pay, take it to court. Most importantly, your neighbors need a fence. Its hard to believe they have livestock and no way to contain them. This. Photos of damaged lawn. Photos of the cow in your yard. I also can't figure why the guy has cattle without a fence. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:50:10 PM EDT
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The law can also vary by county. County stock laws may modify the statewide laws, and, to complicate it further, the county stock laws may be species specific.
Growing up, I always hated having to get up early on the weekend to help a neighbor or relative chase down an escaped cow(s). Stupid cows! Watch from 5:30 to 6:30:  Anthony Clark - 1995 stand up |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:50:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck that, it's his cow. He needs to control it. Neighbor should go 100% on the fence. Absolutely. The cow is his animal, his responsibility. It should be treated no different than a dog or a cat. It's not the animal's fault. It's the neighbor's problem. The neighbor should cover the cost 100%. If it were me, I would take the opportunity to fill my freezer. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:50:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:51:19 PM EDT
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Nothingburger my ass, a friggin' cheeseburger is what I'm thinking.
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:51:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go do donuts on your neighbor's property and shit on his front lawn. Turnabout is fair play.  I like you. No homo. 
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:54:24 PM EDT
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Lock this fucking thread up till he says what state he is in.
For the love of fuck |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:55:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like an opportunity to get some free range beef. Yup. Give the dude one more warning and anything on your property is yours. Or get a fence. Your choice. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:56:07 PM EDT
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Cattle in a wet yard can make a serious mess.....sounds like the neighbor owes you some landscaping.
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:56:36 PM EDT
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I wonder if anyone has ever bear sprayed a cow? I bet it wouldn't want to come back.
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Posted: 12/28/2021 12:57:30 PM EDT
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Run a hot wire along the boundary? He'll be the other neighbor's problem after that.
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:04:17 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: in many areas it is your responsibility to fence them out if you don't want them on your property and you can get in deep shit for harming other people's cattle for being on your property. Weird situation and laws but they were written during the times of the old west and cattle drives and haven't been changed. (I'm just here to learn). [answered] https://nationalaglawcenter.org/state-compilations/fence-laws/ |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:04:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:05:11 PM EDT
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Find out if you can sue and for how much. Pad the amount as much as you can then talk to the rancher. Tell them you are tired of the property damage and you won't go forward with the lawsuit if they will just build a fence. Just make sure they understand that you're trying to be reasonable and just want your property to stop being damaged.
The reason for padding the bill is to make it look cheaper to build a fence then get sued. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:05:20 PM EDT
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Unfortunately you likely are going to have to fence them out. Texas is a fence out state and I found that out when a neighbor a few properties over had cows getting into my hay field. Eventually he decided they were a pain in the ass and sold them all
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:05:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if anyone has ever bear sprayed a cow? I bet it wouldn't want to come back. Cows are retarded....they'd be back within an hour. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:06:45 PM EDT
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He would already have his answer if he posted his state.
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:06:51 PM EDT
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Cow? Nope, haven't seen a cow come through here.
Hey, did I tell you I just got a new chest freezer the other day? |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:07:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want to, but I don't need that kind of hassle. Perfect time of year bury the offal hang the beef in the shed in the cool weather for a couple weeks cut wrap enjoy |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:08:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or he lives in NY or CA and is ashamed to admit it.  This |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:08:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, absolutely. 14 years ago a large bull got out. Almost got hit by 2 cars and got riled up, ran into my yard right - through a laundry line in the back - then tried to charge my 3.5yr old son who was playing outside. If I have to repeat myself, I'm wasting my time. Your wasting time by not posting the state (and county) where this is taking place. The lack of state information has been pointed out numerous times in the thread. Either you have a very poor ability to read the responses or you're ignoring them. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:09:52 PM EDT
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OP can't bother to post his state so I'm siding with his neighbor.
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:10:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:11:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had the same issue a few years ago, he never damaged anything tho. It was hilarious to watch a young bull crawl under a chain link fence to come play with my dog. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/70066/007__2__JPG-2219536.jpg Except that's acow/heifer. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:16:27 PM EDT
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Quoted: Got about a 20yr history with my farmer neighbor's cows getting out. No fence around his property. Usually it's a 1-2x/yr deal, the bull goes for a long walk around hte neighborhood, 2-3 cows follow, they almost get hit by cars, one time a local pd took a few shots at the bull that looked like it was going to charge another neighbor's kid, etc. Most of the time a nothingburger, part of rural life. But, for the last month or so, they have a newer angus cow that is taking off on them every couple days and walks a loop through my yard. My yard basically looks like a damn pasture now, shit everywhere and 4-6" deep holes all over my soft backyard. I almost pulled on someone walking through my backyard the other night with a flashlight, turned out to be one of the farmer's family trying to chase the cow home. Through my backyard. I don't want to be the guy that pulls up down there and causes trouble, but I've also been pretty helpful numerous times herding their cows back over to them and helping with traffic diversion/etc while they handle things. I am pretty pissed about my yard though. I enjoy working outside and put a bunch of time and money into trees and plants which the cows have no problem breaking(4 branches off a young apple tree), eating(everything) and shitting on(driveway + everything else). What's my best course of action? I live in the rural part of the county. Also a farm kid. The answer is obvious - fence them in. The potential issue for your neighbor is that there is a history of his cows roaming and witnesses [you and probably others] who could testify to this. Which makes it negligence if there ever would be an accident and the persons involved were injured or property lost. I won't do it, but I do have a friend with a skid steer and when I saw my broken apple tree my first thought went to grabbing a rifle and calling him to help me load it for the butcher... stupid cows. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:19:36 PM EDT
[#35]
Best I could find so far:
§ 310. Lien upon strays. Whenever any person shall have any strayed horses, cattle, sheep, swine or other beast upon his inclosed land, or shall find any such beast on land owned or occupied by him doing damage, and such beast shall not have come upon such lands from adjoining lands, where they are lawfully kept, by reason of his refusal or neglect to make or maintain a division fence required of him by law, such person may have a lien with priority over all other liens upon such beasts, for so long as such person shall retain possession of such beasts, for the damage sustained by reason of their so coming upon his lands and doing damage, for his reasonable charges for keeping them, and all fees and costs made thereon, and he may keep such beast until such damages, charges, fees and costs are paid, or such lien is foreclosed, upon complying with the provisions of this article relating thereto. To clarify, the farm the cows are coming from is on the opposite side of a 2 lane county highway. My property is not adjacent to the farm property, it is separated by the highway. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:20:49 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Spraypaint "DEER" on the side. Problem solved. 
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:22:40 PM EDT
[#37]
It all depends on if you are in a "Fence in or Fence out" state. Answer that and I can help you more.
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:24:08 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Put up an electric fence around your property. My area is "open range", so legally I need a fence to keep livestock out, not in. +1 |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:25:11 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, absolutely. 14 years ago a large bull got out. Almost got hit by 2 cars and got riled up, ran into my yard right - through a laundry line in the back - then tried to charge my 3.5yr old son who was playing outside. If I have to repeat myself, I'm wasting my time. Put that and your state in the first post or WE are wasting our time. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:25:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Best I could find so far: To clarify, the farm the cows are coming from is on the opposite side of a 2 lane county highway. My property is not adjacent to the farm property, it is separated by the highway. State is NY. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:27:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYou want to at least save some meat. TM62 won’t allow you to do that. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:27:51 PM EDT
[#42]
I had a neighbor with pigs that got out regularly. They rooted my entire front yard, twice and kept my wife and kids from exiting the house once. I corralled them back into the fence the first couple times and called the neighbor, who didn't seem too concerned.
After lodging a few complaints with the sheriff, I was told by the sheriff that I was within my rights to put them down if they were damaging my property. The last time they got out I killed all 12, dumped the carcasses at the bottom of my property, and I haven't had an issue since. Anyone who owns livestock should be responsible enough to keep them on their land. An occasional jail break isn't that big of a deal, but repeated damage to your property is unacceptable. I don't know what your state laws are on this subject but if I were you I would find out. I told my neighbor they were gonna be put down if they came on my land again and I wasn't going to be made a liar. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:29:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Best I could find so far: To clarify, the farm the cows are coming from is on the opposite side of a 2 lane county highway. My property is not adjacent to the farm property, it is separated by the highway. What freaking state? There in lies the crux of the answer.For example, TX requires YOU to fence, but there are exceptions if the livestock are on a property that is traversed by a federal or state road. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:31:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Best I could find so far: To clarify, the farm the cows are coming from is on the opposite side of a 2 lane county highway. My property is not adjacent to the farm property, it is separated by the highway. Quote HistoryQuoted: Best I could find so far: § 310. Lien upon strays. Whenever any person shall have any strayed horses, cattle, sheep, swine or other beast upon his inclosed land, or shall find any such beast on land owned or occupied by him doing damage, and such beast shall not have come upon such lands from adjoining lands, where they are lawfully kept, by reason of his refusal or neglect to make or maintain a division fence required of him by law, such person may have a lien with priority over all other liens upon such beasts, for so long as such person shall retain possession of such beasts, for the damage sustained by reason of their so coming upon his lands and doing damage, for his reasonable charges for keeping them, and all fees and costs made thereon, and he may keep such beast until such damages, charges, fees and costs are paid, or such lien is foreclosed, upon complying with the provisions of this article relating thereto. To clarify, the farm the cows are coming from is on the opposite side of a 2 lane county highway. My property is not adjacent to the farm property, it is separated by the highway. I'd bet NY is a fence in state. Maybe contact an attorney. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:34:04 PM EDT
[#45]
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:34:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I figured I would come in to this thread and take the farmers side because I also have cows and shit happens, but how the fuck does he not have a fence? Even if it’s not required by law. I can’t imagine getting so twisted up about my yard that I carried my neighbor to court. I hope you can just talk to him and avoid any more trouble. I'm with you. Just want to get my facts straight before I go over there (again). |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:34:58 PM EDT
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FYI and it may not apply in your area. Processors around here can't take dead live stock. Deer and wild hogs yes. But not a cow you shot in your yard. Has to be alive even if it is hurt, has a broke leg or what ever.
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:35:38 PM EDT
[#48]
My backyard butts up the Federal BLM land that a cow rancher leases for a few months each year.
Caught this little fellow eating out of one of my raised garden beds. Couple of neighbors said to SSS next time and they'd process him in their shops for me. 
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:35:54 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you in a fence in or fence out state? If you're in a fence in state the neighbor is required to keep his animals on his property. Go after him for damages. Fence out is different. Want his animals off your property? Build your own fence. I don't agree but that's the law. Yep, need to figure what your States rules are and then you will know your options. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 1:36:55 PM EDT
[#50]
Are you in a free range state? Fence your yard if you don’t want cows on it. Where I come from if you hit a cow you’re buying the rancher a new cow.
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