Posted: 6/19/2009 10:58:35 AM EDT
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Just bought a new laptop loaded with Vista.
Every time I log in, a Norton page comes up wanting to sell me their product. I must decline in order to move on to IE. How do I get rid of that damn thing? |
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wipe the hard drive, reinstall a proper OS.
I even wrote a guide on how to do it right. http://www.btfh.net/howto/xp-howto/index.html |
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After Norton is uninstalled you will need another antivirus program. I'm on a laptop with Vista right now and I installed AVG 8.5 antivirus and run malwarebytes or superantispyware on it. Free programs. For a firewall I am just running the windows firewall as Zonealarm crashes this laptop and I haven't found another free one that I liked .
I like XP on my desktops but for what little I use a laptop for Vista on it seems OK. |
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wipe the hard drive, reinstall a proper OS. I even wrote a guide on how to do it right. http://www.btfh.net/howto/xp-howto/index.html Well that's a pretty stupid way of stopping Norton pop-ups. |
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wipe the hard drive, reinstall a proper OS. I even wrote a guide on how to do it right. http://www.btfh.net/howto/xp-howto/index.html You really shouldn't give out advice if you have no clue what you are talking about. |
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wipe the hard drive, reinstall a proper OS. I even wrote a guide on how to do it right. http://www.btfh.net/howto/xp-howto/index.html Well that's a pretty stupid way of stopping Norton pop-ups. It fixes a lot more then the norton bullshit. Vendor builds are always unbelievably fucked to death, and if you want your system to run at optimal performance, you need a clean build. But what do I know after 14 years in IT ? 
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Quoted: Windows 7 is good until March of 2010. I've been running it since the beta version came out. I like it enough that I'm probably going to buy two licenses for my laptops.Quoted: Go to Microsoft and download Windows 7 RC. Trust me after running Windows 7 RC for a few minutes, you'll forget all about Vista. You'll then have to reformat your drive within a year, I believe. Stick with Vista. Windows 7 is far better than Vista. |
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wipe the hard drive, reinstall a proper OS. I even wrote a guide on how to do it right. http://www.btfh.net/howto/xp-howto/index.html Well that's a pretty stupid way of stopping Norton pop-ups. It fixes a lot more then the norton bullshit. Vendor builds are always unbelievably fucked to death, and if you want your system to run at optimal performance, you need a clean build. But what do I know after 14 years in IT ? Went to the page - cmon, tell us how you really feel.
Vista isn't so horrid with enough RAM and horsepower. I went from Vista 32 to Vista x64 shortly, then Windows 7 x64 when RC1 came out. There are a few things better with Vista/7 like the event viewer, aero preview, and sidebar. Enough horsepower now AKA not a POS old-ass CPU or video card. |
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wipe the hard drive, reinstall a proper OS. I even wrote a guide on how to do it right. http://www.btfh.net/howto/xp-howto/index.html Well that's a pretty stupid way of stopping Norton pop-ups. It fixes a lot more then the norton bullshit. Vendor builds are always unbelievably fucked to death, and if you want your system to run at optimal performance, you need a clean build. But what do I know after 14 years in IT ? Went to the page - cmon, tell us how you really feel.
Vista isn't so horrid with enough RAM and horsepower. I went from Vista 32 to Vista x64 shortly, then Windows 7 x64 when RC1 came out. There are a few things better with Vista/7 like the event viewer, aero preview, and sidebar. Enough horsepower now AKA not a POS old-ass CPU or video card. My #1 complaint with Vista is the massive DRM and extremely shitty IO performance. For most home users, they won't care, but anyone who works in a network environment, this is a deal breaker. Also, you shouldn't need a fucking $100 video card to just push the GUI. M$ really bloated the hell out of Vista, and as a result its a disaster. |
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...But what do I know after 14 years in IT ? Not enough to uninstall Norton, apparently. Vista is fine, and even the most fucked of mass-vendor (HP, etc) installs can easily be cleaned up. I don't like the massive registry butchering that's left over from Norton being on a machine. Same goes for a vendor build. Even if you yank all the bullshit off, the registry is a mess, dll's strung all over the place, etc. Some of the vendor builds take longer to "clean" compared to a clean wipe and rebuild. As I said before, Vista's I/O performance is a fucking joke compared to XP, and its unacceptable in an environment that needs good network performance. |
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wipe the hard drive, reinstall a proper OS. I even wrote a guide on how to do it right. http://www.btfh.net/howto/xp-howto/index.html +1 That's what I do as well. |
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After I uninstall anything like Norton or McAfee I prefer to do a registry backup, and then go through the registry manually and delete any instances of the name I find in any program keys.
There are lists in the registry for things like "recently used programs" and "uninstalled programs", and the name will appear in those lists. Those entries can stay because they are basically non-functional, they don't really DO anything,,,, but any value the program needed to actually work, I prefer to get rid of. ~ |
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As I said before, Vista's I/O performance is a fucking joke compared to XP, and its unacceptable in an environment that needs good network performance. Vista's I/O subsystem is a vast improvement over XP, removing much of XP's limitations and adding superior asynchronous support plus priority scheduling. It's probably the priority scheduling that is giving you a false impression. Where this subsystem really shines is in the server role where jumbo frames are implemented (usually max MTU out beyond 7k bytes) in a file server role. Fire up an Windows 2008 server in a jumbo frame environment (enterprise class switches that efficiently buffer jumbo frames), and you should benchmark some good numbers. Make sure to use controllers with true RAID IOP. However, I do prefer the Netapp NAS all-around for file server roles. |
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As I said before, Vista's I/O performance is a fucking joke compared to XP, and its unacceptable in an environment that needs good network performance. Vista's I/O subsystem is a vast improvement over XP, removing much of XP's limitations and adding superior asynchronous support plus priority scheduling. It's probably the priority scheduling that is giving you a false impression. Where this subsystem really shines is in the server role where jumbo frames are implemented (usually max MTU out beyond 7k bytes) in a file server role. Fire up an Windows 2008 server in a jumbo frame environment (enterprise class switches that efficiently buffer jumbo frames), and you should benchmark some good numbers. Make sure to use controllers with true RAID IOP. However, I do prefer the Netapp NAS all-around for file server roles. The first part, I agree with whole-heartedly. But Netapp? That's like the fat toothless HIV-positive whore of the storage world. Better options exist. |
