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12/31/2007 12:31:06 PM EDT
I recently purchased a Springfield Pro. I am able to group very well with it, however, my shots are low and to the left. It made me look like a newbie at the range, and all the Fudd's were talking about me behind my back. I was embarrassed! I tried some Kentucky windage and my target ended up looking like something a chick would shoot. So what say you, am I girly or are my sights off.

I am pissed. What should my course of action be? I am thinking I should buy another one. Maybe two just in case one of them breaks.

Here is a picture. My camera broke, so I had to compromise.

12/31/2007 12:33:08 PM EDT
[#1]
The problem is definately your front sight.

Send it back for warranty work.  
12/31/2007 12:33:53 PM EDT
[#2]
Well with the picture painting skill like that I think I would try eye glasses.
12/31/2007 12:34:41 PM EDT
[#3]
Well there's your problem, dude...your front sight is off high and right...I can clearly see it in the representation. In the meantime, stop anticipating the shot (jerking the trigger) and things should improve.
12/31/2007 1:45:51 PM EDT
[#4]
Is that an aftermarket clip?  I would just use the factory one's.  Some of the cheap clips can really effect sightage.
12/31/2007 1:48:37 PM EDT
[#5]
use hotter quality ammo...
12/31/2007 1:49:49 PM EDT
[#6]
Best thread ever.
12/31/2007 1:57:04 PM EDT
[#7]
Oooh, beef jerky grips.
12/31/2007 1:59:41 PM EDT
[#8]
I see the problem.  Look how far forward your chamber is.  Those forward chambers are teh suck.

Is that blood on the grip?  Have you tried shooting gloves?
12/31/2007 2:10:54 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Here is a picture. My camera broke, so I had to compromise.

img228.imageshack.us/img228/7318/proxw1.jpg


Ummmmm.
12/31/2007 2:12:51 PM EDT
[#10]
I didnt know Springfield made a longslide...cool
12/31/2007 2:13:44 PM EDT
[#11]
looks nice. How much you pay for that drawing?
12/31/2007 2:16:01 PM EDT
[#12]
This has got to be a gag. In no way can this be real.
12/31/2007 2:32:15 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
I didnt know Springfield made a longslide...cool



12/31/2007 2:33:47 PM EDT
[#14]
  Let me clear a place on the fridge...GOOD JOB!  
12/31/2007 2:33:51 PM EDT
[#15]
The gun is fine.


. . . . .it's you


the Fudds said you shoot like a girl.
12/31/2007 2:34:39 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
I didnt know Springfield made a longslide...cool


That isn't a longslide, that's a fucking buntline without the stock.
12/31/2007 2:36:09 PM EDT
[#17]


This place gets more weird every day...
12/31/2007 5:10:10 PM EDT
[#18]
You guys can make fun of my gun all you want. I think it looks badass and that's all that matters to me. The Springfield Pro is how a real 1911 should look.

Anyway, I go to the range after the ceasefire and couldn't post my target, so I unpack my TLE/RL II and Pro. There's some pretty friendly people here. They go looking around and see my 1911's. "Wow, whatcha got there?" I say, "Springfield Pro." I load up my mags with match ammo, because I want to look cool and put all my shots through one hole.

The exact opposite happened. My first shot was a failure to eject. The round landed low and left. I clear it and shoot again. Same thing. Bullet hole on top of the other, low and left only this time I had a failure to feed. By this time I get it. My gun is brand new and I'm using underpowered, semi wadcutter match ammo. This gun obviously doesn't like this kind of ammo. I empty my mag and fill it with ball. Shots are still low. I start thinking maybe my grip is wrong, so I mess around with my grip a little and end up shooting all over the place. I give up, load up my Kimber, and easily shoot out the center. The only part of the target that didn't have any bullet holes.

Now don't get me wrong, this is a nice gun that shoots very good groups. Now that it is broken in, it shoots very well. I came to the conclusion that the sights are off, which is too easy.

It's hard to see in the picture, but now that I look closer, the rear sight is noticeably off center. I think I'm going to find a mallet and punch and see if I can fix it. But first I'm going to have a several beers to help me relax. That sounds like a good idea.
12/31/2007 5:22:21 PM EDT
[#19]


Todd Jarrett video

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48
12/31/2007 6:21:26 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Is that an aftermarket clip?  I would just use the factory one's.  Some of the cheap clips can really effect sightage.


Ha Ha he said "Clip".  (And the rest is even more ludicrous)

Are your groups all over the place or decent group but away from point of aim?  

If all over the place and consistently all over the place, find a buddy and a pistol rest and try again with another kind of ammo.  if still shitty, send the pistol to me for disposal.  Sounds like it isn't locking up tight and/or consistently shot to shot.  That's a bad pistol.

If off same place, look up any of several websites, because that's a physical issue with the pull that can be corrected. That's a good pistol but bad trigger pull.
12/31/2007 6:33:50 PM EDT
[#21]
I tried Magtech, WWB, Hydrashocks, DPX, and Winchester Match. They all shot in pretty much the same place. Groups were good, just not where I wanted. Low and left. I think I'm just a shitty shooter and need some formal handgun training.

12/31/2007 6:36:40 PM EDT
[#22]
describe how you are pressing the trigger.

low/left sometime means you are cranking the trigger instead of pressing it straight back with just the tip of your finger.
12/31/2007 6:47:34 PM EDT
[#23]
Slowly, hair by hair until it goes bang. Eventually I got fed up with it, started resetting the trigger, and shot as soon as my sight picture returned. Same thing either way.
12/31/2007 6:48:15 PM EDT
[#24]
From the picture, it's clear your front sight is too tall.  Springfield should be able to send you a shorter one, tap the rear sight over a tad and you should be able to get right on.  You might want to remove the burr on the front of your rear sight before you get too involved though.  Also, the blood dripping off your grip panels isn't very conducive to a firm grip, oven cleaner removes blood residue pretty well.  Nice gun.
12/31/2007 6:50:01 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
Slowly, hair by hair until it goes bang. Eventually I got fed up with it, started resetting the trigger, and shot as soon as my sight picture returned. Same thing either way.



what part of your finger is touching the trigger?

it should be the same part that touches the keys on your keyboard,  not the first joint/knuckle.
12/31/2007 7:01:50 PM EDT
[#26]
8:30 - 9:30 = Too little trigger finger

7:30 - 8:30 = Tightening fingers

6:30 - 7:30 = Jerking or slapping trigger

5:30 - 6:30 = Breaking wrist down, Pushing fwd. or drooping head



Hope this helps
12/31/2007 7:07:24 PM EDT
[#27]
Should've bought a Glock. They never miss.