Posted: 1/5/2016 1:01:12 AM EDT
I am probably late to the party, but have y'all seen the new Triumph line coming? Sorry, just heard of them today. The Thruxtons are pure sex. Time to start saving. 
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I'm not a rider, so my opinion means nothing, but I really like the looks of them. I can ride, not well anymore, but I can't own a bike, or rather it wouldn't be sensible financially. I get dizzy a lot with my panic attacks, so riding for me has to be done while cruising a small town or just up and down the road. I actually haven't ridden in 25 years, even then, it was always on a buddy's bike , borrowed while uptown and just driven around trying to pick up girls in town.
I would like to see someone do a modern revision of one of the old Triumph convertibles, with a modern engine and all of that. Sort of a Miata competitor. Lines of the classics but updated. Off topic, but just a thought. |
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I am probably late to the party, but have y'all seen the new Triumph line coming? Sorry, just heard of them today. The Thruxtons are pure sex. Time to start saving.
http://pemotoare.ro/wp-content/uploads/Triumph_2016_074.jpg Beautiful bike 
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I'm not a rider, so my opinion means nothing, but I really like the looks of them. I can ride, not well anymore, but I can't own a bike, or rather it wouldn't be sensible financially. I get dizzy a lot with my panic attacks, so riding for me has to be done while cruising a small town or just up and down the road. I actually haven't ridden in 25 years, even then, it was always on a buddy's bike , borrowed while uptown and just driven around trying to pick up girls in town. I would like to see someone do a modern revision of one of the old Triumph convertibles, with a modern engine and all of that. Sort of a Miata competitor. Lines of the classics but updated. Off topic, but just a thought. Miata's are affordable and cheap and inexpensive. Also trouble free. '99 NB owner. But the new one looks like The Mach 5. 
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Yes. I'm trying to convince my wife to trade my old Thrux in for the new Thrux R. Its not going to work, but I can try. Do it! Ask for forgiveness afterwards.
I am very impressed with the increase in output percentages of the new motors, no official numbers yet. Water cooled which normally I would hate on such a retro bike but they did a great job of hiding the radiator, or at least it is not very noticeable. I doubt I can afford the Thruxton R, those premium suspension bits and brakes are going to drive up the cost, but even the regular Thruxton looks great. Love the Triton style tank, Monza cap, etc. I rather it had a cafe bar instead of clipons though. I also the like the Bonneville Black addition. 
I have not seen this interpretation so well done since the Ducati Sport Classics.
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I thought I read that these are 270 degree crank motors now, I'm surprised they went this way given how much effort thy put into making them faithful to the originals... Some are 360, some are 270. Thruxtons and Bonnevilles should be 360 Scramblers and I think the cruisers are 270 |
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I don't like the first bike. The engine is seriously old school, the front end looks like it came off a modern street racer. The contrast bothers me. The rear gas shocks look out of place on an old school swing arm design. I like the Bonneville and the green Thruxton. The standard rear shocks and the rubber boots on the forks are authentic. The engine design matches the front and rear ends. |
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My opinion - I don't like the first bike. The engine is seriously old school, the front end looks like it came off a modern street racer. The contrast bothers me. The rear gas shocks look out of place on an old school swing arm design. I like the Bonneville and the green Thruxton. The standard rear shocks and the rubber boots on the forks are authentic. The engine design matches the front and rear ends. I pretty much agree, though I think the Thruxton R looks good as an amalgamation of old and new. But I prefer the overall retro feel of the regular Thruxton....plus it is cheaper and my serious sport bike days are behind me. It would suit me fine. |
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Sure look like one. 
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Now if the R weighed in at about 120 lbs less and made 150 HP... They are still a bit portly aren't they. They really aren't meant to be sport bikes. Sure look like one.
Maybe if your eyeballs look like that ^^ and you smeared petroleum jelly all over your computer monitor, then yeah, sure, a Bonneville looks like it's trying to imitate a sport bike. |
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Some are 360, some are 270. Thruxtons and Bonnevilles should be 360 Scramblers and I think the cruisers are 270 Quoted:
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I thought I read that these are 270 degree crank motors now, I'm surprised they went this way given how much effort thy put into making them faithful to the originals... Some are 360, some are 270. Thruxtons and Bonnevilles should be 360 Scramblers and I think the cruisers are 270 All of the new water-cooled Bonneville models (T120, Street Twin, Thruxton and Thruxton R) are 270 degree twins. All of them. There are no 360-degree cranks in this series of engine. The air-cooled models which continue for 2016 stick with their previous respective 360 or 270-degree configurations for now. These, for now, are the T100, the Scrambler, and the "old" Thruxton, along with the America/Speedmaster cruisers. The base Bonneville is gone for 2016, replaced entirely by the Speed Twin. |
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Maybe if your eyeballs look like that ^^ and you smeared petroleum jelly all over your computer monitor, then yeah, sure, a Bonneville looks like it's trying to imitate a sport bike. Quoted:
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Now if the R weighed in at about 120 lbs less and made 150 HP... They are still a bit portly aren't they. They really aren't meant to be sport bikes. Sure look like one.
Maybe if your eyeballs look like that ^^ and you smeared petroleum jelly all over your computer monitor, then yeah, sure, a Bonneville looks like it's trying to imitate a sport bike. Really. The range-topping Thruxton R ups the ante even further with significant parts upgrades over the standard Thruxton model in order to make it look, perform, handle and stop better. Upgraded Brembo twin floating brake discs are clamped by Brembo radially-mounted monobloc calipers plus there’s a Brembo master cylinder for increased braking power. The suspension uses a high-spec, fully-adjustable Showa big-piston fork up front and fully-adjustable Öhlins twin rear shocks while the rims run Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa tyres for sportier handling characteristics The Thruxton R also has a "Performance Race kit’, which has been designed for track use only. The Thruxton R is a sport bike. Not along the lines of the Daytona or Speed riple line, more along the lines of a Moto Guzzui V7 II. |
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All of the new water-cooled Bonneville models (T120, Street Twin, Thruxton and Thruxton R) are 270 degree twins. All of them. There are no 360-degree cranks in this series of engine. The air-cooled models which continue for 2016 stick with their previous respective 360 or 270-degree configurations for now. These, for now, are the T100, the Scrambler, and the "old" Thruxton, along with the America/Speedmaster cruisers. The base Bonneville is gone for 2016, replaced entirely by the Speed Twin. Quoted:
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I thought I read that these are 270 degree crank motors now, I'm surprised they went this way given how much effort thy put into making them faithful to the originals... Some are 360, some are 270. Thruxtons and Bonnevilles should be 360 Scramblers and I think the cruisers are 270 All of the new water-cooled Bonneville models (T120, Street Twin, Thruxton and Thruxton R) are 270 degree twins. All of them. There are no 360-degree cranks in this series of engine. The air-cooled models which continue for 2016 stick with their previous respective 360 or 270-degree configurations for now. These, for now, are the T100, the Scrambler, and the "old" Thruxton, along with the America/Speedmaster cruisers. The base Bonneville is gone for 2016, replaced entirely by the Speed Twin. I did not know that. Weird. |
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I thought I read that these are 270 degree crank motors now, I'm surprised they went this way given how much effort thy put into making them faithful to the originals... Some are 360, some are 270. Thruxtons and Bonnevilles should be 360 Scramblers and I think the cruisers are 270 All of the new water-cooled Bonneville models (T120, Street Twin, Thruxton and Thruxton R) are 270 degree twins. All of them. There are no 360-degree cranks in this series of engine. The air-cooled models which continue for 2016 stick with their previous respective 360 or 270-degree configurations for now. These, for now, are the T100, the Scrambler, and the "old" Thruxton, along with the America/Speedmaster cruisers. The base Bonneville is gone for 2016, replaced entirely by the Speed Twin. I did not know that. Weird. Yeah, they really did a number on their product line for '16. TWO "base" Thruxtons, both totally different bikes. Consumer confusion ahoy! Their web page is just a clusterfuck of '15 and '16 models... |
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Really. The range-topping Thruxton R ups the ante even further with significant parts upgrades over the standard Thruxton model in order to make it look, perform, handle and stop better. Upgraded Brembo twin floating brake discs are clamped by Brembo radially-mounted monobloc calipers plus there’s a Brembo master cylinder for increased braking power. The suspension uses a high-spec, fully-adjustable Showa big-piston fork up front and fully-adjustable Öhlins twin rear shocks while the rims run Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa tyres for sportier handling characteristics The Thruxton R also has a "Performance Race kit’, which has been designed for track use only. The Thruxton R is a sport bike. Not along the lines of the Daytona or Speed riple line, more along the lines of a Moto Guzzui V7 II. Quoted:
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They are still a bit portly aren't they. They really aren't meant to be sport bikes. Sure look like one.
Maybe if your eyeballs look like that ^^ and you smeared petroleum jelly all over your computer monitor, then yeah, sure, a Bonneville looks like it's trying to imitate a sport bike. Really. The range-topping Thruxton R ups the ante even further with significant parts upgrades over the standard Thruxton model in order to make it look, perform, handle and stop better. Upgraded Brembo twin floating brake discs are clamped by Brembo radially-mounted monobloc calipers plus there’s a Brembo master cylinder for increased braking power. The suspension uses a high-spec, fully-adjustable Showa big-piston fork up front and fully-adjustable Öhlins twin rear shocks while the rims run Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa tyres for sportier handling characteristics The Thruxton R also has a "Performance Race kit’, which has been designed for track use only. The Thruxton R is a sport bike. Not along the lines of the Daytona or Speed riple line, more along the lines of a Moto Guzzui V7 II. "It has big monobloc brakes, nice suspension, and sticky tires" Okay, let's take a look at my 3/4-ton Chevy Enormous fucking brakes... Check Nice suspension... Not currently, but can easily be dropped in with something like Carli Sticky tires... Currently running BFG KO2s, but a fresh set of Pirellis is just a phone call away. So you're saying my truck is an F1 car then? Cool. It's not a sport bike. It's sporty, yes, but "sport bike" is a very specific term with a specific set of characteristics. |
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You shit in a technical discussion forum (which is a violation of the CoC) by attacking me (another violation of the CoC) and then you ignore what the manufacturer has to say about their bike. Your view of what a "sport bike" constitutes is very narrow and close minded. You can continue to berate me and to use ridiculous analogies to defend your position if you like, but that's not what this discussion is about. I am sure the OP does not want to "listen" to you continue to shit in his thread, go start another thread on what you think is a sport bike. |
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Seriously? You shit in a technical discussion forum (which is a violation of the CoC) by attacking me (another violation of the CoC) and then you ignore what the manufacturer has to say about their bike. Your view of what a "sport bike" constitutes is very narrow and close minded. You can continue to berate me and to use ridiculous analogies to defend your position if you like, but that's not what this discussion is about. I am sure the OP does not want to "listen" to you continue to shit in his thread, go start another thread on what you think is a sport bike. ...um.... Okay then 
Do you care to actually refute any of the points I made in my prior post, or do you always just start screaming "PERSECUTION" every time somebody disagrees with you? Again, big brakes, sticky tires, and responsive suspension do not necessarily a sportbike make. As far as sportbikes go, the Thruxton is too heavy, not aero enough (I know you can pay exorbitant cash for an old-school bubble fairing), and is still underpowered for its weight. |
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Do you care to actually refute any of the points I made in my prior post, or do you always just start screaming "PERSECUTION" every time somebody disagrees with you? Again, big brakes, sticky tires, and responsive suspension do not necessarily a sportbike make. As far as sportbikes go, the Thruxton is too heavy, not aero enough (I know you can pay exorbitant cash for an old-school bubble fairing), and is still underpowered for its weight. Quoted:
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Seriously? You shit in a technical discussion forum (which is a violation of the CoC) by attacking me (another violation of the CoC) and then you ignore what the manufacturer has to say about their bike. Your view of what a "sport bike" constitutes is very narrow and close minded. You can continue to berate me and to use ridiculous analogies to defend your position if you like, but that's not what this discussion is about. I am sure the OP does not want to "listen" to you continue to shit in his thread, go start another thread on what you think is a sport bike. ...um.... Okay then
Do you care to actually refute any of the points I made in my prior post, or do you always just start screaming "PERSECUTION" every time somebody disagrees with you? Again, big brakes, sticky tires, and responsive suspension do not necessarily a sportbike make. As far as sportbikes go, the Thruxton is too heavy, not aero enough (I know you can pay exorbitant cash for an old-school bubble fairing), and is still underpowered for its weight. Good grief, there is nothing to refute. The Thruxton R is a sport bike. 'Sport bike' encompasses all different types and interpretations of the term. It may not be your ideal of a sport bike, but it is a sport bike. You're being ridiculous and absurdly pedantic. |
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A sport bike, aka "sportbike" and "sportsbike", is a motorcycle optimized for speed, acceleration, braking, and cornering on paved roads, typically at the expense of comfort and fuel economy by comparison with more standard motorcycles. Soichiro Honda wrote in the owner's manual of the 1959 Honda CB92 Benly Super Sport that, "Primarily, essentials of the motorcycle consists in the speed and the thrill," while Cycle World's Kevin Cameron says more prosaically that, "A sportbike is a motorcycle whose enjoyment consists mainly from its ability to perform on all types of paved highway – its cornering ability, its handling, its thrilling acceleration and braking power, even (dare I say it?) its speed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_bike Play nice people..this isn't GD. |
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A sport bike, aka "sportbike" and "sportsbike", is a motorcycle optimized for speed, acceleration, braking, and cornering on paved roads, typically at the expense of comfort and fuel economy by comparison with more standard motorcycles. Soichiro Honda wrote in the owner's manual of the 1959 Honda CB92 Benly Super Sport that, "Primarily, essentials of the motorcycle consists in the speed and the thrill," while Cycle World's Kevin Cameron says more prosaically that, "A sportbike is a motorcycle whose enjoyment consists mainly from its ability to perform on all types of paved highway – its cornering ability, its handling, its thrilling acceleration and braking power, even (dare I say it?) its speed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_bike Play nice people..this isn't GD. Okay. Wikiepdia isn't exactly an authority on anything, but I'll give it to you. A Thruxton is a sportbike. And if I put sticky street tires and new suspension on my Chevy K2500, then it becomes a sportscar. Agreed? ETA: And if not, why not specifically? |
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Quoted: Okay. Wikiepdia isn't exactly an authority on anything, but I'll give it to you. A Thruxton is a sportbike. And if I put sticky street tires and new suspension on my Chevy K2500, then it becomes a sportscar. Agreed? ETA: And if not, why not specifically? Quoted: Quoted: A sport bike, aka "sportbike" and "sportsbike", is a motorcycle optimized for speed, acceleration, braking, and cornering on paved roads, typically at the expense of comfort and fuel economy by comparison with more standard motorcycles. Soichiro Honda wrote in the owner's manual of the 1959 Honda CB92 Benly Super Sport that, "Primarily, essentials of the motorcycle consists in the speed and the thrill," while Cycle World's Kevin Cameron says more prosaically that, "A sportbike is a motorcycle whose enjoyment consists mainly from its ability to perform on all types of paved highway – its cornering ability, its handling, its thrilling acceleration and braking power, even (dare I say it?) its speed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_bike Play nice people..this isn't GD. Okay. Wikiepdia isn't exactly an authority on anything, but I'll give it to you. A Thruxton is a sportbike. And if I put sticky street tires and new suspension on my Chevy K2500, then it becomes a sportscar. Agreed? ETA: And if not, why not specifically? |
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Okay. Wikiepdia isn't exactly an authority on anything, but I'll give it to you. A Thruxton is a sportbike. And if I put sticky street tires and new suspension on my Chevy K2500, then it becomes a sportscar. Agreed? ETA: And if not, why not specifically? Quoted:
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A sport bike, aka "sportbike" and "sportsbike", is a motorcycle optimized for speed, acceleration, braking, and cornering on paved roads, typically at the expense of comfort and fuel economy by comparison with more standard motorcycles. Soichiro Honda wrote in the owner's manual of the 1959 Honda CB92 Benly Super Sport that, "Primarily, essentials of the motorcycle consists in the speed and the thrill," while Cycle World's Kevin Cameron says more prosaically that, "A sportbike is a motorcycle whose enjoyment consists mainly from its ability to perform on all types of paved highway – its cornering ability, its handling, its thrilling acceleration and braking power, even (dare I say it?) its speed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_bike Play nice people..this isn't GD. Okay. Wikiepdia isn't exactly an authority on anything, but I'll give it to you. A Thruxton is a sportbike. And if I put sticky street tires and new suspension on my Chevy K2500, then it becomes a sportscar. Agreed? ETA: And if not, why not specifically? Your analogy is retarded. If you can't see that, well we can't help you. |
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Okay. Wikiepdia isn't exactly an authority on anything, but I'll give it to you. A Thruxton is a sportbike. And if I put sticky street tires and new suspension on my Chevy K2500, then it becomes a sportscar. Agreed? ETA: And if not, why not specifically? Quoted:
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A sport bike, aka "sportbike" and "sportsbike", is a motorcycle optimized for speed, acceleration, braking, and cornering on paved roads, typically at the expense of comfort and fuel economy by comparison with more standard motorcycles. Soichiro Honda wrote in the owner's manual of the 1959 Honda CB92 Benly Super Sport that, "Primarily, essentials of the motorcycle consists in the speed and the thrill," while Cycle World's Kevin Cameron says more prosaically that, "A sportbike is a motorcycle whose enjoyment consists mainly from its ability to perform on all types of paved highway – its cornering ability, its handling, its thrilling acceleration and braking power, even (dare I say it?) its speed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_bike Play nice people..this isn't GD. Okay. Wikiepdia isn't exactly an authority on anything, but I'll give it to you. A Thruxton is a sportbike. And if I put sticky street tires and new suspension on my Chevy K2500, then it becomes a sportscar. Agreed? ETA: And if not, why not specifically? I'm assuming there are truck nutz on this chevy K2500? |