Posted: 7/17/2004 6:13:21 PM EDT
| Do you have night sights on your CCW piece? I don't yet, but I can't carry yet. I'm definately going to put them on before I can start carrying. |
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night sights on only one of my carry pieces.... and not the one I carry majority of the time... for that one, I have a surefire light. I have practiced night time firing (at night!) with that setup. the one piece that does have night sights is also the 'home protector', an HK USP with nightsights and the HK tactical light. |
Yes. Unless you plan on jacking your self up with adrenaline and various other biochemicals, you're not going to have realistic training. |
As close as it gets. |
| I have learned that night sites are a good idea. I had an incident where I whish I had them. I had to get up in the middle of the night to see who was trying to get into my house. I had my Sure Fire which lit up the target but I could only see the outline of the sights. I decided that nightsights were a good thing. To me it just makes it easier. |
| No. A constant companion to your CCW piece should be your tactical flashlight. In a situation where night sights would otherwise be used, the flashlight should be used and practiced with instead. I feel that night sights in many ways aid in unintentional shootings by allowing people a better chance of firing on an un-id'd target. |
Competition is the easiest practical way to start to train for this. The adrenaline that starts pumping when you hear that buzzer is the closest approximation you're going to get to the real thing. |
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There's a limited window of dusk like light where you can still ID the target without a light but the night sights are of use, mostly they just let you see the sights clearly in the dark, but without a light you don't who the heck you're filling full of holes. Although it's not a big deal- they are visible for some distance, I have been able to spot someone's nightsights on a pistol across a field. |
Or maybe....your hearing loss won't allow you to hear the threat? 
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Here is my PERSONAL opinion: 1) My daytime scores really suffered when I used night sights during the day at IDPA. 2) This is because the "dots" were distracting me from the outline of the sights (which is faster--by far--for me). 3) I do not shoot at things I cannot see. This means muzzle flashes are “out”--as are ambiguous shapes that might be a gun/bad guy/etc. IF I DON’T HAVE ENOUGH LIGHT TO SEE THE OULINE OF MY SIGHTS, I CANNOT POSITIVELY IDENTIFY A THREAT/TARGET. 4) Every set of night sights I have had has been a little off with regard to elevation. If you are shooting so close that elevation doesn’t matter, you won’t need night sights. 5) I have shot extensively at night. I found that with night sights I believed that I had “good shots” more often than I really did. 6) I believe that a good flashlight will handle all of your nighttime shooting needs, and have seen/hear of very few problems that I couldn’t handle with a good pistol and a flashlight. Just my two cents. YMMV |
Actually, the best way to do this is to get a good pair of electronic hearing protectors and turn them up to the point that the gunshots (from other shooters near you on the line) are just loud enough to be startling. If you really "had a pair" you would do about 50 push ups and then zap yourself with a stun gun before shooting. That's probably about as close as it gets. 
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You do realize that there are an equal number of folks like that who either don't care, or are against them, right? |
Night sights are a MUST, but I also have a LaserMax. I have never used it to shoot with off of the range but it has stopped one fight already before it got started. Little wanna-be gang-banger up on the North Side shit his pants in front of his homies and dropped his weapon when he saw a red dot on his chest.
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i have multiple carry guns. some have them some don't. Here is my feeling. If it is in the dark at a range i need sights i will likely be better running for cover than trying to take aimed fire. If i am close enough to need to shoot it's going to be a fast draw and point shoot. I don't need any sights for that. I have NO intention of getting into a long drawn out firefight. I like them from the standpoint it is one more option. but having fired mine at night i can tell you after the first shot you won't be able to see them anyway due to muzzel flash. |
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My Glock 26 came with night sights. The dealer didn't realize it had night sights and sold it to me for the regular police price. At that time it was $394.00 (I think). Don’t hate me because I lucked out. I didn't realize it had night sights until I got home. My Glock 26 is my first weapon with night sights. I carry it all the time. On and off duty. I just got issued a Glock 19 with night sights.  |
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Oh, and here is my opinion on lasers… They are a legitimate tool in only a couple of circumstances: 1) It is an IR laser and you use it in conjunction with NVG’s or to designate a target. 2) It is used specifically for intimidation (hostage situation for example). 3) A person is disabled (handicapped) so they use it in lieu of a proper stance/sight picture. Other than that, they are a bigger liability than an asset. It simply takes too long to find on a target (as compared to finding the outline of your sights). See, your sights are in a fixed position as attached to your weapon. You always focus on the same plane of sight. With a laser, you need to focus out to the object and hunt for the dot. The problem is that we as humans are attracted to bright, shiny things just like animals. Because of this, we simply like lasers. The TIF (Toy Index Factor) is high. It is for this reason you see all of those freaks that bolt every single available piece of crap on their rifles. No offence to anyone here, but at the end of the day I think at that some of these items simply make the shooter feel better. They instill confidence. This is not usually bad, until they find themselves in a situation that they are not prepared for (but feel confident that they can master). This is a recipe for disaster. Personally, I believe in the KISS principle. Most shooters would benefit greatly from selling (or not buying) all of the cheek rests, lights, scopes, laser, modular hand guards, forward grips, storage compartments, flash thingys, super ninja slings, etc. and spending that money first on good quality training and second lots of ammo to practice with. At the end of the day, I am confident that I can pick up any reliable, stock weapon and bring the fight to the bad guys in a serious way. |
| I live alone; if there's someone in my apt at 3am, they're not there to chat, and they're certainly not invited. muscle memory takes care of most of it, but it's comforting that the night sights allow me to line up without my glasses on. I'd THEN hit him with the surefire beam to ID before shooting, or if attack was imminent while still dark, open fire. |
equal number you say? got some stats to support that statement, or just making a careless statement? |
Since you seem to enjoy elementary school games so much, you post an article by someone who says they're a necessity, and I'll respond with someone that says they're not. Assuming I care enough to continue this conversation. |