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12/25/2009 5:20:09 PM EDT
For Christmas I received a book titled: The Essential Chomsky.  This was a gift from my wife's aunt.  She is a self-admitted Marxist Socialist and has a history of schizo affective disorder.  She claims he is one of her favorite writers, but from what I can find online he does not seem to fit within this group.  To make things more interesting, before opening gifts we ate dinner.  During dinner the recent passage of the health care reform bill came to be the main subject of discussion.  I was dismayed when the majority of her family expressed disappointment that the bill did not contain a public option.  

Since we do not spend much time together; we ultimately do not talk about our political views.  I was quite surprised to find out that a majority of my wife's family consists of Liberals and Socialists.  I could not contain my silence with the absurd points being spouted. I started countering all of the things they said which led to a less than pleasant  (read: the introduction of logic into their lives) dining experience and an awkward silence during dessert.  As I stated before, gifts were opened after dinner.  When I opened the gift from the aforementioned aunt she used the opportunity to once again spout her socialist rhetoric.  This time I just let her babble to spare the family from another long drawn out discussion.  Shortly after all the gifts were opened my wife and I made for the exit.  

Not sure if there is a point to this, but I felt I needed to vent and get back to reality.
12/25/2009 5:24:56 PM EDT
[#1]
Hell, read it. Know your enemy...

12/25/2009 5:28:38 PM EDT
[#2]
Hmm, his name reminds me of the word chode. Seems fitting given what I know about the guy.
12/25/2009 5:31:10 PM EDT
[#3]
Your aunt lives in Madison, and attended the University of Wisconsin.
I'm right aren't I ?
12/25/2009 5:33:36 PM EDT
[#4]
i think it's interesting that many of my friends and people I know who are devote lefties all have psychologists and mental disorders.
12/25/2009 5:35:14 PM EDT
[#5]

Pretty much everything I could say about Chomsky would be a COC violation but its a pity that the average American citizen has no idea who this guy is, the drivel that he spouts, or the fact that he is the darling of the American left .
12/25/2009 5:39:10 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
i think it's interesting that many of my friends and people I know who are devote lefties all have psychologists and mental disorders.


now that you mention it, That's about the truth in the people I know, too.
12/25/2009 5:39:56 PM EDT
[#7]
Chomsky is a very smart man and has some REALLY quirky views. His knowledge of linguistics is top-notch, though. His politics and philosophies are sometimes pretty good and sometimes batshit crazy. I believed he dubbed himself a social anarchist. He's one of those 'interesting' people.

12/25/2009 5:45:38 PM EDT
[#8]
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Your aunt lives in Madison, and attended the University of Wisconsin.
I'm right aren't I ?


Not my aunt, she is my wife's aunt.  She is from south of Madison and attended Johns Hopkins to study psychology.  After college she started exhibiting the symptoms of schizo effective disorder while working as a research psychologist.  For the last 10 years she has been living off of the government in the form of disability payments.  Recently my wife informed me that her aunt has taken her GRE and plans to attend UW-Madison for her masters.
12/25/2009 5:45:45 PM EDT
[#9]
Chomsky is an absolute douchebag.  He calls himself an anarchist and many years ago he decided to move to a kibbutz; he left in a huff when they made him dig ditches since they had no use for an academic blowhard.  Didn't seem to make him wise up any.
12/25/2009 5:48:01 PM EDT
[#10]
Chomsky quotes himself as evidence for his views often enough that I believe that he makes shit up on a regular basis and hopes that nobody will actually check on his sources.
12/25/2009 5:51:03 PM EDT
[#11]
It's a good read. You can see where he goes off the rails with some of his
assumptions on human behaviour.
12/25/2009 5:51:26 PM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:


Chomsky quotes himself as evidence for his views often enough that I believe that he makes shit up on a regular basis and hopes that nobody will actually check on his sources.


The only reason some people would share views with him is because they've come to the same conclusion but traveled a completely different route than him. I don't like the Cuban embargo nor the War on Drugs. He doesn't as well but came to that conclusion by saying, "we're a bully and evil." I came to the conclusion because I think both are a waste of time, money, and only hurt common people.



 
12/25/2009 6:00:17 PM EDT
[#13]
Read the book, put a bullet hole through the middle, then send it back to the aunt.

Tell her to find someone else to haul her trash out.

12/25/2009 6:01:26 PM EDT
[#14]
People dis Noam Chomsky, but I really really really like the guy and enjoy his perspectives, both in his field and outside of it. I say this as one of the most offensively conservative people you'll ever come across and as an intellectual.


 
12/25/2009 6:06:58 PM EDT
[#15]
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Read the book, put a bullet hole through the middle, then send it back to the aunt.

Tell her to find someone else to haul her trash out.



That had crossed my mind.  I was considering writing her a letter point out all of the flaws in the book, but this sounds tempting...

The only question is .45 vs 9mm
12/25/2009 6:09:28 PM EDT
[#16]
Darn, I was hoping to hear that he had passed on to the great collective in the sky.
12/25/2009 6:11:18 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Read the book, put a bullet hole through the middle, then send it back to the aunt.

Tell her to find someone else to haul her trash out.



That had crossed my mind.  I was considering writing her a letter point out all of the flaws in the book, but this sounds tempting...

The only question is .45 vs 9mm


If ever there was an argument for get both...
12/25/2009 6:20:51 PM EDT
[#18]
Hell, I went out bought myself a copy of Marx' "Communist Manifesto" specifically because I want to know more.  This kind of garbage should give us more insight into the machinations of Obama, the UN, etc.
12/25/2009 6:23:38 PM EDT
[#19]
Read it. Why not?

I read all kinds of socialist bullshit. Its ridiculous to imagine the type of mind that just accepts that kind of shit in the face of fact and history.
12/25/2009 6:26:55 PM EDT
[#20]



Read this and lift your head.  

The following was an article about Noam written by one of my former students, who happens to be a liberal.  (I think that will be changing)

http://www.columbiaspectator.com/2009/12/09/fatal-triangle-chomsky-us-and-israel

There is hope...


12/25/2009 6:35:13 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:

Read this and lift your head.  
The following was an article about Noam written by one of my former students, who happens to be a liberal.  (I think that will be changing)
http://www.columbiaspectator.com/2009/12/09/fatal-triangle-chomsky-us-and-israel
There is hope...


That was interesting.  It coincides with what another poster said about him referencing himself.
12/25/2009 6:41:21 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:

Read this and lift your head.  
The following was an article about Noam written by one of my former students, who happens to be a liberal.  (I think that will be changing)
http://www.columbiaspectator.com/2009/12/09/fatal-triangle-chomsky-us-and-israel
There is hope...


The first line of the article....

"Chomsky abuses true scholarship by stating as fact distortions of the truth that align with his ideological agenda."


Yep. Pretty much my take on the guy.

He is probably one of the most astute liars of our time and as the line mentions, he brilliantly crafts his lies to lend subtle support to his position. He is a dangerous and despicable man.

-3D
12/25/2009 6:55:35 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Read this and lift your head.  
The following was an article about Noam written by one of my former students, who happens to be a liberal.  (I think that will be changing)
http://www.columbiaspectator.com/2009/12/09/fatal-triangle-chomsky-us-and-israel
There is hope...


That was interesting.  It coincides with what another poster said about him referencing himself.




Very well written article that highlight the repeated pattern of deception that Chomsky follows whenever he speaks of social issues and politics regardless of the subject. He utilizes "selective memory" when stating historical events so that they adhere to his argument, and he banks on those reading or listening to his tripe not being as intelligent enough to call him on it. And he is usually works for him, but fabledviper’s former student caught him.

-3D
12/25/2009 6:57:46 PM EDT
[#24]



Quoted:


Hell, read it. Know your enemy...





He's more readable than Jaques Derrida but what's that really saying?

 
12/25/2009 6:59:53 PM EDT
[#25]
Never put down a book because you don't agree with it. I've read plenty of shit that made me want to punch walls, but in the end it will leave you with a better understanding of the other side.

12/25/2009 7:00:32 PM EDT
[#26]
Is your aunt one of those delusional communalist types who think the world can actually run that way?


Mutual self interest is what keeps the world going, not forced "charity".



12/25/2009 7:01:25 PM EDT
[#27]
I saw him speak years ago.  He was saying that human intelligence did not come from either God or pure evolution.  It is the result of mushrooms that grew from spores that traveled through space and landed on Earth.



Hell, he could be right.  It makes as much sense as any other theory.
12/25/2009 7:03:21 PM EDT
[#28]
Chomsky tries to mix libertarianism with communism.



Fuck Noam Chomsky.



That being said, read him, learn something, and discard the bullshit.



He's half right. He just has the wrong solution.


12/25/2009 7:03:38 PM EDT
[#29]
Everyday I am leaning more and more anarchist
ETA Before anyone has a stroke I love America. The .gov not so much.
 
12/25/2009 7:22:29 PM EDT
[#30]
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Everyday I am leaning more and more anarchist


ETA Before anyone has a stroke I love America. The .gov not so much.
 




The danger with that is that Marxism/Communism exploits anarchists. Marx, Lenin, Stalin... etc. were all anarchists. Additionally, they all developed paths from anarchy to Communism that is incredibly enticing to those who inevitably tire of anarchy.

Don’t misunderstand what I am saying. Anarchy is not essentially bad, but Marxists love anarchy because it presents them with the opportunity to seize power and control. They know the chances that someone will be as prepared and organized as them is slim to none. It's also why they abhor fascism. Fascism does present a counter to their political structure and has, in the case of both Germany and Italy, defeated the communists efforts to seize control of the anarchy.

So… I urge caution.

-3D