Posted: 6/11/2009 6:46:50 PM EDT
| I'm curious as to if one works for a company with out being in a Union does your employer a. value you more over the other employees, and b. reward you in any form? lastly c. do most employers rape you because they can? |
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I've never been in a union, nor will I, but I have done work at union facilities (mines).
At one, the workers (or, if you prefer, the management) had broken the union. You could be a member or not, your choice. The non-union guys had better pay and benefits than the union guys. And the union guys still had to pay their union dues out of their (lesser) paychecks. Collective bargaining, baby! Unions had a place, and in some situations still do, but after a while they exist just to accrue power at the expense of the company and their members. It's human nature, I guess. |
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Quoted: C with most companies... not all. I've been working in private industry for some 20 years and have never been in a union, and have never seen nor suffered from option c. In both my last and current position I interacted with dozens of suppliers, almost all of which were non-union and in none of which option C was happening. People tend to leave jobs where they are getting screwed over. Such companies end up with the caliber of employees they deserve. The overwhelming majority of companies are managed by people smart enough to know this.  |
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A. My employer gets paid in some part simply by the number of warm bodies that show up
B. Not yet C. unless you fall into a bargaining unit exempt job classification, your wages and benefits are governed by the same contract as those who are union. Further, the employer can't "rape" you at all. Federal law covers most things, and anything it doesn't, you either consent to or you don't by continued employment or termination of employment. ETA: if Oregon is not a right to work state, are you planning on moving to one? |
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from what I've experienced and gleaned, employers of union workers usually fulfill the minimums of the contract because they have to. decent, non-union employers usually treat their people well because: a: it's the right thing to do, or b: in order to avoid their employees gaining an interest in unions.
GD just isn't GD without some good ol' fashioned class warfare 
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