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Posted: 8/11/2024 1:10:23 PM EDT
https://www.twz.com/air/northrops-stealthy-drone-breaks-cover-and-it-has-a-cockpit
The Model 437, which was built by Northrop Grumman's subsidiary Scaled Composites, looks like the concept art aside from one very glaring detail. The first images of Northrop Grumman’s Model 437, an advanced air combat drone that could potentially fill the requirement for the Air Force’s and/or Navy’s “loyal wingman” Collaborative Combat Aircraft (CCA) programs, as well as those of allies, have hit social media. The relatively small tactical jet looks impressive and is very much in line with the concept renderings we have seen of it, aside from one major detail — it has a cockpit. Yes, that’s right, the Model 437 prototype features a cockpit for a pilot. While this may seem extremely odd for what is supposed to be an advanced unmanned air combat aircraft, it actually makes some sense and it could give Northrop Grumman (NG) an advantage in the red-hot contest to provide hundreds, if not thousands, of highly autonomous drones to the USAF, as well as the Navy. |
Grab a fence post, hold it tight, womp your partner with all your might, hit him in the shin, hit him in the head, hit him again the critter ain't dead!
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Anti skynet protection
a manual override |
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That's no surprise in a technology demonstrator airplane.
I suppose it's possible the aim is a low cost export manned airplane with options available for the autonomous customers. If so, the payload is microscopic. |
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Keep your powder dry, and watch your back trail.
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It kind of looks like an Iranian stealth jet...
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Grab a fence post, hold it tight, womp your partner with all your might, hit him in the shin, hit him in the head, hit him again the critter ain't dead!
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Did it start life as a manned aircraft?
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Ace combat is now real life.
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Have it manned for the prototype stages, then rip out the meat sack support systems and add more gas and weapons to the fully unmanned production model?
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Take your latest export intended fly-by-wire design, put in a radio transceiver able to pass commands to the flight computer and read the instrumentation sensors, then call it a drone.
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Originally Posted By AeroE: That's no surprise in a technology demonstrator airplane. I suppose it's possible the aim is a low cost export manned airplane with options available for the autonomous customers. Is so, the payload is microscopic. View Quote A few wing pylons and AA missiles can be added for effect |
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Originally Posted By HungLo: Son of F-107 https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2c/da/63/2cda63ff17aca21b4aaf38832317390f.jpg View Quote The NG airplane will use a serpentine inlet, too. I want to see details of the exterior. |
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Keep your powder dry, and watch your back trail.
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Originally Posted By cardboardkiller: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/31823/IMG_2800-3291876.jpg Male plane. View Quote That Sir (if I may call you that), is a feminine penis. |
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Good. Keeps the enemy guessing which ones are manned and which ones aren’t… and makes it usable as a fill-in fighter as needed under the budgets of the “unmanned” drone program
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Originally Posted By AeroE: That's no surprise in a technology demonstrator airplane. I suppose it's possible the aim is a low cost export manned airplane with options available for the autonomous customers. If so, the payload is microscopic. View Quote I believe I've read it's 3. Missile under each wing and one centerline. |
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Plot twist, all of our planes are UAV's. They just put one of those vinyl wraps on that looks like it has a cockpit and pilot.
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Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.. |
Now with video.
Model 437 First Flight I think it's got a bit of an updated HE-162 Salamander vibe to it. Attached File |
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It’s… probably not as bad as you think it is.
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If it's cheap enough (both to buy, and to keep flying) then it doesn't really matter if the payload is small. Just launch more of them. The limiting factor will then be the number of wingmen a single pilot (or AI) can control.
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looks kinda sexy
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Originally Posted By crownvic96: https://blogs.airspacemag.com/view/files/2012/08/Airplane-autopilot.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By HungLo: Son of F-107 https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2c/da/63/2cda63ff17aca21b4aaf38832317390f.jpg View Quote This must be the grandfather. Attached File |
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Sweet pics.
Does anyone I know what is the upper limit for sustained g forces with jets ? I mean is there some limit beyond which air stops working normally? Or is it just a mechanical forces factor? How Bout jet engines? From my limited expierence with model airplane engines as well as model pulse jets I know that high g forces can richen up the engine or lean it out depending on the manuver. Obviously full size jet engines are more advanced but I have to wonder about a heavy rotating mass not liking high g forces. |
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Beechcraft Bonanaza Drone?
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Originally Posted By TheLookingGlass: Sweet pics. Does anyone I know what is the upper limit for sustained g forces with jets ? I mean is there some limit beyond which air stops working normally? Or is it just a mechanical forces factor? How Bout jet engines? From my limited expierence with model airplane engines as well as model pulse jets I know that high g forces can richen up the engine or lean it out depending on the manuver. Obviously full size jet engines are more advanced but I have to wonder about a heavy rotating mass not liking high g forces. View Quote Air Force fighters are usually limited to 9G. Navy fighters to something around 7G now that most aircraft have fly by wire systems. In the days before these became standard. Combat aircraft were usually limited to around 6G. But in practice they could be pulled and pushed a bit harder. Though you shouldn't count on certain delicate and/or primitive electronic systems being functional afterwards. Whenever this subject comes up it invariably leads to an argument between people who think that drones are the be all and end all of air combat and that they can take far higher g loading than any human. And people who actually build, design, work on and fly fighter aircraft who reply that the machinery can't take that much punishment if you want it to keep working for very long. Missiles have been seen pulling crazy turns in combat. But it helps that they only have to do it once. |
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It’s… probably not as bad as you think it is.
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Originally Posted By AeroE: That's no surprise in a technology demonstrator airplane. I suppose it's possible the aim is a low cost export manned airplane with options available for the autonomous customers. If so, the payload is microscopic. View Quote You don't need a large payload if you have 20 of them attacking at a time. |
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Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
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Originally Posted By Sinister: How does it compare, size-wise, to an A4 Skyhawk? https://silodrome.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Douglas-A-4-Skyhawk-Fighter-Jet-5-1600x1060.jpg View Quote From Hesperus' video it appears smaller . One good aspect is ; once the pilot passes out from G's , AI will continue the fight til pilot wakes up . " shew , that was close ....oh , looks like I got em . Heh ." |
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As others stated, it's a demonstrator, and they need provision for a pilot during development. But I doubt they would keep that feature in production. The overhead, including weight, environmental systems, ejection seat etc, must be prohibitive. Never mind that it increases the radar cross section. I'd guess they'll delete the cockpit in the final version.
Of course it would be entertaining to take civilians for a ride to experience 20G's. . |
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Gun control is not the answer. Gun control is the question. The answer is NO.
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The next gen fighter can swap out cockpit, nothing new
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Originally Posted By cardboardkiller: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/31823/IMG_2800-3291876.jpg Male plane. View Quote Is that the dikfer? |
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Makes sense. That way the airforce can assign DEI "pilots" to "fly" it. No training required.
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There are 100 kinds of people, those who can both understand binary and extrapolate from incomplete information…
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I figured they'd look somewhat cheap and disposable, but fuck...
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I wonder if it will get upsized? Looks kinda small to carry a useful payload.
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Originally Posted By AeroE: That's no surprise in a technology demonstrator airplane. I suppose it's possible the aim is a low cost export manned airplane with options available for the autonomous customers. If so, the payload is microscopic. View Quote Same as my 2024 Toyota. Damn thing drives itself down a winding road. |
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Originally Posted By NY12ga: Good. Keeps the enemy guessing which ones are manned and which ones aren’t… and makes it usable as a fill-in fighter as needed under the budgets of the “unmanned” drone program View Quote It's the Air Force version of parking a police car in radar position with nobody in it. I see. |
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Originally Posted By Hesperus: Air Force fighters are usually limited to 9G. Navy fighters to something around 7G now that most aircraft have fly by wire systems. In the days before these became standard. Combat aircraft were usually limited to around 6G. But in practice they could be pulled and pushed a bit harder. Though you shouldn't count on certain delicate and/or primitive electronic systems being functional afterwards. Whenever this subject comes up it invariably leads to an argument between people who think that drones are the be all and end all of air combat and that they can take far higher g loading than any human. And people who actually build, design, work on and fly fighter aircraft who reply that the machinery can't take that much punishment if you want it to keep working for very long. Missiles have been seen pulling crazy turns in combat. But it helps that they only have to do it once. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Sinister: How does it compare, size-wise, to an A4 Skyhawk? https://silodrome.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Douglas-A-4-Skyhawk-Fighter-Jet-5-1600x1060.jpg View Quote I bet it leaks oil a hell of a lot less than a Skyhawk. |
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Not surprising at all. They gotta test the fkn thing lol
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How many G can it pull once you remove the meatbag?
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Surprise, there's a cockpit but no controls. Ride-alongs only. Buckle up, human!
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I wonder what they don’t show us.
What do they move at night in the dark? That’s the fun shit. |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I believe I've read it's 3. Missile under each wing and one centerline. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By AeroE: That's no surprise in a technology demonstrator airplane. I suppose it's possible the aim is a low cost export manned airplane with options available for the autonomous customers. If so, the payload is microscopic. I believe I've read it's 3. Missile under each wing and one centerline. That's pathetic. I would have guessed five or six. Three? Pfffft. |
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Grandfathering weapons only puts off until tomorrow what tyranny cannot accomplish today.
The only people made safer by gun control are criminals and tyrants. |
Grandfathering weapons only puts off until tomorrow what tyranny cannot accomplish today.
The only people made safer by gun control are criminals and tyrants. |
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