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7/31/2017 6:11:32 AM EDT
Bofors 40mm AA gun. Machine gun or destructive device?

7/31/2017 6:13:16 AM EDT
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If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

Just like a z-jay.
7/31/2017 6:19:12 AM EDT
[#2]
It is both.
7/31/2017 6:20:51 AM EDT
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It is both.
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So, 2 stamps for 1 gun?
7/31/2017 6:36:27 AM EDT
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So, 2 stamps for 1 gun?
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Yes like an integrally suppressed machine gun such as an MP5SD, a fully automatic destructive device requires two stamps.
7/31/2017 7:20:49 AM EDT
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DD 
7/31/2017 7:29:29 AM EDT
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Is that frangible at 200 yards?
7/31/2017 10:52:09 AM EDT
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Yes like an integrally suppressed machine gun such as an MP5SD, a fully automatic destructive device requires two stamps.
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That doesn't make sense. In your example, there are two separate features equating to a 2 stamp gun.
In this example, it's just the bore diameter, right?
Wtf? I would think the fact that it is a machinegun would be enough regulation.
7/31/2017 10:53:42 AM EDT
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DD 
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This
7/31/2017 10:54:22 AM EDT
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Yes like an integrally suppressed machine gun such as an MP5SD, a fully automatic destructive device requires two stamps.
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For the MP5SD, that's correct.

For this situation you cannot use the same logic however
7/31/2017 10:56:22 AM EDT
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That doesn't make sense. In your example, there are two separate features equating to a 2 stamp gun.
In this example, it's just the bore diameter, right?
Wtf? I would think the fact that it is a machinegun would be enough regulation.
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Well heres the fun thing with NFA

Some categories trump the other.

If you have a 10.5 MG, you do not have a SBR and a MG, its simply a MG as a MG trumps the SBR status. Same thing for AOW such as a MP5K that's put into one of those briefcases, since its a MG, it trumps the AOW status
7/31/2017 11:02:55 AM EDT
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Hell the rounds are probably all DDs anyway. The Nfa is bullshit.
7/31/2017 11:12:27 AM EDT
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I'm gonna go with the gun is a MG, the rounds if live are DD for each one. Chalk or otherwise the inert non explodey kind, meh.
7/31/2017 11:21:55 AM EDT
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I'm gonna go with the gun is a MG, the rounds if live are DD for each one. Chalk or otherwise the inert non explodey kind, meh.
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HVAP/APCR solids
7/31/2017 11:26:02 AM EDT
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It's a machine gun, but in cases where state law also restricts DDs you would be subject to those requirements as well. One stamp.

MP5SDs are two different devices, not at all the same scenario.
7/31/2017 1:47:08 PM EDT
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It's a machine gun, but in cases where state law also restricts DDs you would be subject to those requirements as well. One stamp.

MP5SDs are two different devices, not at all the same scenario.
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That is my understanding.

Example- IIRC, a full auto USAS12 would be a MG, while a semi auto would be a DD.