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Posted: Today 9:33:10 PM EST
You guys who do hydraulic work and automotive, I have a question.
For O-rings and seals, do you prefer regular pick sets like this? TEKTON Pick and Hook Set (5-Piece) | PNH90102 | Made in USA VS The spoon type O-ring picks NEIKO 20758A O-Ring Pick Set, 4 Piece Automotive Pick Set, Seal Puller Pick and Hook Set for O-Rings I have the first set and they work well. I can't say they are the best for O-rings. I ordered the second set today. I would think these would offer less chance of scratching up an O-ring groove. Maybe avoid damaging an O-ring you might need to reuse. What do you think? |
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Posted: Today 9:42:02 PM EST
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I use regular picks. The spoon type work well for freeing stuck hoses. 21 years in auto repair.
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Posted: Today 9:46:21 PM EST
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TX, USA
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Posted: Today 9:48:57 PM EST
[#3]
Brass oring picks only.
Sharp points damage orings. |
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Posted: Today 9:49:17 PM EST
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I use the spoons a lot, but not on O rings much. They are great for lots of things and less damaging than picks. Great for pulling plastic covers off interior panels. Handy for assembly tasks. Good mini pry tools for delicate items.
I also have lots and lots of pics and trim tools. The new Tekton pic set is inexpensive, comprehensive, and has unique variants. Main drawer of trim, pick, and poke tools… 
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Posted: Today 9:50:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperX925: Brass oring picks only. Sharp points damage orings. I've never seen brass O-ring picks. The spoon type seem to be a good answer. |
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Posted: Today 9:51:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C2Installs: I use the spoons a lot, but not on O rings much. They are great for lots of things and less damaging than picks. Great for pulling plastic covers off interior panels. Handy for assembly tasks. Good mini pry tools for delicate items. I also have lots and lots of pics and trim tools. The new Tekton pic set is inexpensive, comprehensive, and has unique variants. Main drawer of trim, pick, and poke tools… https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/169657/IMG_0052-3304834.jpg I have the smaller Tekton pick set and the prybar set. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: Today 9:57:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By batmanacw: I've never seen brass O-ring picks. The spoon type seem to be a good answer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By batmanacw: Originally Posted By SuperX925: Brass oring picks only. Sharp points damage orings. I've never seen brass O-ring picks. The spoon type seem to be a good answer. Industry standard for high pressure high temperature oil field service industry. They don’t damage seal surfaces or the o-rings. |
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Posted: Today 9:59:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperX925: Industry standard for high pressure high temperature oil field service industry. They don’t damage seal surfaces or the o-rings. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperX925: Originally Posted By batmanacw: Originally Posted By SuperX925: Brass oring picks only. Sharp points damage orings. I've never seen brass O-ring picks. The spoon type seem to be a good answer. Industry standard for high pressure high temperature oil field service industry. They don’t damage seal surfaces or the o-rings. Good to know. I'm watching a video on nylon o-ring picks right now. |
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Posted: Today 10:00:58 PM EST
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Posted: Today 10:03:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C2Installs: I use the spoons a lot, but not on O rings much. They are great for lots of things and less damaging than picks. Great for pulling plastic covers off interior panels. Handy for assembly tasks. Good mini pry tools for delicate items. I also have lots and lots of pics and trim tools. The new Tekton pic set is inexpensive, comprehensive, and has unique variants. Main drawer of trim, pick, and poke tools… https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/169657/IMG_0052-3304834.jpg What brand are those organizer boxes? |
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Posted: Today 10:04:39 PM EST
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I might pick these up for non-marring applications.
ARES 16003-6-Piece Non-Marring Pick and Prybar Set - Protects Fasteners, O-Rings, Seals, Gaskets, and Trim on Automotive and Electronics Applications During Use |
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Posted: Today 10:05:38 PM EST
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Posted: Today 10:10:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By intheburbs: www.amazon.com/dp/B00HDPEE5W It's in my list. Thank you. |
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Posted: Today 10:13:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By high-drag_low-speed: What brand are those organizer boxes? Ernst. But they are available rebranded from almost any tool line. Great for drawers. They have a larger one with more compartments of various sizes. |
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Posted: Today 10:18:02 PM EST
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Spending money again! THANKS!
 Currently using a chainsaw file with the handle tapered down and bent into a curl. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: Today 10:18:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperX925: Industry standard for high pressure high temperature oil field service industry. They don’t damage seal surfaces or the o-rings. I'm listening. CAT equipment primarily uses ORFS or half-clamp fittings and o-ring failures are a major cause of downtime. You're making me wonder if the extensive use of sharp steel picks may be related to that... |
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Posted: Today 10:25:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sabocat: I'm listening. CAT equipment primarily uses ORFS or half-clamp fittings and o-ring failures are a major cause of downtime. You're making me wonder if the extensive use of sharp steel picks may be related to that... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sabocat: Originally Posted By SuperX925: Industry standard for high pressure high temperature oil field service industry. They don’t damage seal surfaces or the o-rings. I'm listening. CAT equipment primarily uses ORFS or half-clamp fittings and o-ring failures are a major cause of downtime. You're making me wonder if the extensive use of sharp steel picks may be related to that... Scratched up O-ring grooves is no bueno... |
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Posted: Today 10:28:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By batmanacw: Good to know. I'm watching a video on nylon o-ring picks right now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By batmanacw: Originally Posted By SuperX925: Originally Posted By batmanacw: Originally Posted By SuperX925: Brass oring picks only. Sharp points damage orings. I've never seen brass O-ring picks. The spoon type seem to be a good answer. Industry standard for high pressure high temperature oil field service industry. They don’t damage seal surfaces or the o-rings. Good to know. I'm watching a video on nylon o-ring picks right now. I worked at a landing gear overhaul shop for about a year, I only used nylons. It’s not just to protect the oring. |
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Posted: Today 10:29:27 PM EST
[#19]
The steel spoon type O-ring hooks should solve the scratching issue pretty easily. I might take them to my deburring wheel and soften the edges
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Posted: Today 10:30:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Porkchop_Sandwiches: I worked at a landing gear overhaul shop for about a year, I only used nylons. It’s not just to protect the oring. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Porkchop_Sandwiches: Originally Posted By batmanacw: Originally Posted By SuperX925: Originally Posted By batmanacw: Originally Posted By SuperX925: Brass oring picks only. Sharp points damage orings. I've never seen brass O-ring picks. The spoon type seem to be a good answer. Industry standard for high pressure high temperature oil field service industry. They don’t damage seal surfaces or the o-rings. Good to know. I'm watching a video on nylon o-ring picks right now. I worked at a landing gear overhaul shop for about a year, I only used nylons. It’s not just to protect the oring. I'd be much more worried about scratching the groove. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: Today 10:32:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sabocat: I'm listening. CAT equipment primarily uses ORFS or half-clamp fittings and o-ring failures are a major cause of downtime. You're making me wonder if the extensive use of sharp steel picks may be related to that... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sabocat: Originally Posted By SuperX925: Industry standard for high pressure high temperature oil field service industry. They don’t damage seal surfaces or the o-rings. I'm listening. CAT equipment primarily uses ORFS or half-clamp fittings and o-ring failures are a major cause of downtime. You're making me wonder if the extensive use of sharp steel picks may be related to that... Downhole equipment rated to 25,000 PSI @ 175*C is what I work on. Sharp tip steel o-ring picks are a huge no-no. Typically installation is done using o-ring cones or waxed cord. If a pick has to be used it will be a brass pick with a blunt tip. |
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Posted: Today 10:38:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sabocat: I'm listening. CAT equipment primarily uses ORFS or half-clamp fittings and o-ring failures are a major cause of downtime. You're making me wonder if the extensive use of sharp steel picks may be related to that... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sabocat: Originally Posted By SuperX925: Industry standard for high pressure high temperature oil field service industry. They don’t damage seal surfaces or the o-rings. I'm listening. CAT equipment primarily uses ORFS or half-clamp fittings and o-ring failures are a major cause of downtime. You're making me wonder if the extensive use of sharp steel picks may be related to that... Doubtful. I’ve been using steel picks for 30 years and have had no issues. Working around the people we do, they likely don’t tighten the half clamps properly or something like that. On ORFS they likely pinch the seal during assembly or don’t t tighten it enough to where it will loosen and blow out the seal. |
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Posted: Today 10:41:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By batmanacw: I'd be much more worried about scratching the groove. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By batmanacw: Originally Posted By Porkchop_Sandwiches: Originally Posted By batmanacw: Originally Posted By SuperX925: Originally Posted By batmanacw: Originally Posted By SuperX925: Brass oring picks only. Sharp points damage orings. I've never seen brass O-ring picks. The spoon type seem to be a good answer. Industry standard for high pressure high temperature oil field service industry. They don’t damage seal surfaces or the o-rings. Good to know. I'm watching a video on nylon o-ring picks right now. I worked at a landing gear overhaul shop for about a year, I only used nylons. It’s not just to protect the oring. I'd be much more worried about scratching the groove. There’s not much to it really. Cleanliness is the biggest thing. And someone not watching the backup rings 
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Posted: Today 10:44:22 PM EST
[#24]
I ordered a brass pick.
Once I soften the steel spoon picks they will not be able to scratch anything so I'm set. The Tekton set will stay sharp. |
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Posted: Today 10:50:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: high-drag_low-speed]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C2Installs: Ernst. But they are available rebranded from almost any tool line. Great for drawers. They have a larger one with more compartments of various sizes. Thanks, looks like they work well for the Tekton brand picks. I need a better way organize mine, currently using a magnetic rail, those trays might do the trick. |
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Posted: Today 10:55:45 PM EST
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O-rings in aviation are usually one time use. One particular engine manufacturer teaches technicians to use their steel picks to pierce the o-ring to pull it out. This protects the sealing surfaces from scratches because the sharp tip is now embedded into rubber.
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Posted: Today 10:58:27 PM EST
[#27]
Normal picks usually, Unless you have a specialty part that CANNOT get nicked for whatever reason.
I'm functionally useless without my Snap-On Mini 90° hook pick. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: Today 11:02:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Torque556: O-rings in aviation are usually one time use. One particular engine manufacturer teaches technicians to use their steel picks to pierce the o-ring to pull it out. This protects the sealing surfaces from scratches because the sharp tip is now embedded into rubber. That is a good practice for dis-assembly. |
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Posted: Today 11:03:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: JAR0023]
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Cheap pointy set for pulling o-rings that will never be used again. Home owner use to be clear.
Nylon; including one cut down to fit into my SCUBA save a dive kit. Won't tear up brass valve or o-ring. |
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Posted: Today 11:04:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperX925: Brass oring picks only. Sharp points damage orings. Fuck reusing Orings. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: Today 11:06:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: Fuck reusing Orings. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: Originally Posted By SuperX925: Brass oring picks only. Sharp points damage orings. Fuck reusing Orings. Nobody reuses o-rings. |
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Posted: Today 11:45:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Torque556: O-rings in aviation are usually one time use. One particular engine manufacturer teaches technicians to use their steel picks to pierce the o-ring to pull it out. This protects the sealing surfaces from scratches because the sharp tip is now embedded into rubber. ^this. Unless a special material is required… One of the best I’ve found (really): Linky |
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Posted: 11/8/2024 12:15:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperX925: Nobody reuses o-rings. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperX925: Originally Posted By slowkota1: Originally Posted By SuperX925: Brass oring picks only. Sharp points damage orings. Fuck reusing Orings. Nobody reuses o-rings. Then why the concern with damaging them? |
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