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7/11/2026 7:12:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AZCOP:
I'm going to buy one of those and put in on a steel door frame that faces the Chief's Office.

Edit: If I can find one.
It looks like that one is 3D printed, and I don't do 3D printing.

Jay

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Yeah, it was 3d printed by me.

I grabbed the initial model off the web, made a bunch of changes, then designed a magnetic ball mount for it.
7/11/2026 7:36:55 PM EDT
[#2]
Watch the printer and slicer police block this file soon
Always blame autocorrect.
7/11/2026 7:41:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Xyster7212:

Yeah, it was 3d printed by me.

I grabbed the initial model off the web, made a bunch of changes, then designed a magnetic ball mount for it.
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I wish I had this amount of free time.
Keep your hopes up high, and your head down low!
7/11/2026 8:04:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By W202fan90:

I wish I had this amount of free time.
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Originally Posted By W202fan90:
Originally Posted By Xyster7212:

Yeah, it was 3d printed by me.

I grabbed the initial model off the web, made a bunch of changes, then designed a magnetic ball mount for it.

I wish I had this amount of free time.

Hey, that's what my wife said!

It all takes less time than you may think. These are simple shapes, so the CAD portion is quick. After that, it's mostly just waiting hours for the printers, then snapping parts together.

7/11/2026 8:16:41 PM EDT
[#5]
"Stop Cutting Down Flock Cameras!" (Mass Surveillance is Good)
True success is not the absence of failure, it is the refusal to surrender - Lazarus Lake

NorCal Call Sign: Sicario
7/11/2026 8:30:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lygxis][Edited] [#6]



https://pxlnv.com/linklog/flock-ring-surveillance-state/
In September, for example, Chrisanna Elser of Colorado was falsely accused of theft by a police officer using Flock’s cameras. The entire exchange was recorded on her doorbell camera. 404 Media obtained body camera footage which showed the officer refused to see exonerating evidence, in the form of cameras on her Rivian truck and a Ring camera at her tailor’s house. This is just a mass surveillance race to the bottom. The officer in question was required to complete additional training for politeness as a result.

Joel Feder, the Drive:

   On an otherwise normal Sunday afternoon in late June, I’d decided to take the $155,000 Range Rover I was testing that week out to run some errands with my wife. Little did I know that choice would complete a technological chain linking surveillance cameras, AI, and law enforcement that led to me and my wife being surrounded by police, hands on their guns, in a Kohl’s parking lot in suburban Minnesota.

Without spoiling this story too much, this was the result of a typo that affected several more vehicles than the one Feder was driving.
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WARNING DO NOT OPEN SPOILER ON A PHONE.

It is stupidly absurdly heniously LONG. It's a list of abuses of these cameras and the tracking attached to them.

After finding this, I think I've figured a large part of it out. "Flock: THE dating app for people who can't take NO for an answer."

This is in no way exhaustive, I stopped clicking links of abuse cases a few *hundred* in.

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7/11/2026 8:41:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lygxis][Edited] [#7]
In the same vein:

Amazon's Evil Ring Cameras: Flock, Ring, & Building a Surveillance State


Partnered with flock. Added: scared everyone. Supposedly not a partner now. Still partnered with axon. Still gets into the data pile.
7/11/2026 8:51:28 PM EDT
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Oh, and axon wants to get in on it too.



https://investor.axon.com/2026-04-07-Axon-Tackles-Public-Safetys-Data-Overload-With-Three-New-AI-Tools

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7/11/2026 8:56:55 PM EDT
[#9]
I couldn't convict someone if I were on a jury.  I would happily award a metal though.
7/11/2026 8:58:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lygxis][Edited] [#10]
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Originally Posted By JTX23:
I couldn't convict someone if I were on a jury.  I would happily award a metal though.
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1 oz solid gold coin metal?

7/11/2026 9:01:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Cobalt135][Edited] [#11]
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Originally Posted By lygxis:
In the same vein:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSTe8Pi9J_8

Partnered with flock.
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IIRC this partnership with Ring camera was "cancelled" due to backlash.

Of course they are likely still sharing your data and can get away with it because of TOS.

Just like they are always saving all the alerts, sounds, and video to their servers all the time.  They just make you pay a subscription to review anything that isn't live data.  If you shut off the external internet.... they will cease to function.

Flock and Amazon obviously reached a $$$ agreement to enter into a partnership.  If the deal was sweet enough it is just a backroom deal now.

I look at it like these companies that have been beat up on social media over woke policies and they try to walk it back saying they are no longer donating or supporting those causes anymore.  They are just doing it behind our backs now.


7/11/2026 9:01:05 PM EDT
[#12]
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Originally Posted By Xyster7212:

Yeah, it was 3d printed by me.

I grabbed the initial model off the web, made a bunch of changes, then designed a magnetic ball mount for it.
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Now please make a lockable box to enclose a real camera.
The “Three Stupid” Rule: “Do not go to stupid places, with stupid people, and do stupid things”

Religion is a handy device for keeping the philosophically deficient in line.
7/11/2026 9:03:18 PM EDT
[#13]
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Originally Posted By lygxis:
"Flock: THE dating app for people who cant' take NO for an answer."
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Extorris, because he's a heartless cunt. The purity of his apathy is laboratory grade, and I sleep well knowing that he's out there somewhere,
not giving a shit about anyone or anything.
7/11/2026 9:04:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Xyster7212][Edited] [#14]
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Originally Posted By JTX23:
I couldn't convict someone if I were on a jury.  I would happily award a metal though.
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Something like a tank destruction badge, but with cameras?
Silver for 5, gold for 10.
7/11/2026 9:05:56 PM EDT
[#15]
Too good not to post:

Definitely Only for Dogs: Ring's Superbowl Commercial (Parody)
7/11/2026 9:06:23 PM EDT
[#16]
Originally Posted By ffemt596:
Flock Cameras Destroyed in GA

Very close to my AO. It would be a shame if this continues to happen all around the country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGcI9Zeusmk
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Next county over from here.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

? George Orwell
7/11/2026 9:13:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lygxis:
"Flock: THE dating app for people who cant' take NO for an answer."


We should start asking the proponents if they're mad that their girl turned them down or that the hot girl on the local TV show didn't notice them.
7/11/2026 9:27:29 PM EDT
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https://www.importyeti.com/company/flock-safety#addresses-section/other-names
7/11/2026 9:32:03 PM EDT
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Here's another one with paint.

They were so desperate to get that data again they sent someone up to clean off just the lens.

At least it will be half blind in the dark because they didn't clean all the IR emitters off.

And the half ass job of not going up with some graffiti remover to clean up the evidence it will be on display to encourage others.  Oh well.....



7/11/2026 9:36:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ARs4EVER:
https://www.importyeti.com/company/flock-safety#addresses-section/other-names
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So flock wears primax electronics underpants?
7/11/2026 9:49:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lygxis:



https://pxlnv.com/linklog/flock-ring-surveillance-state/



WARNING DO NOT OPEN SPOILER ON A PHONE.

It is stupidly absurdly heniously LONG. It's a list of abuses of these cameras and the tracking attached to them.

After finding this, I think I've figured a large part of it out. "Flock: THE dating app for people who can't take NO for an answer."

This is in no way exhaustive, I stopped clicking links of abuse cases a few *hundred* in.

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Ironic that our public servants have no problem with mass surveillance, but freak out with us, being on sidewalks with cell phones filming them. Thousands of videos on YT documenting this.
Snap, bang or fizz I like all 3
7/11/2026 9:53:48 PM EDT
[#22]
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Originally Posted By lygxis:

So flock wears primax electronics underpants?
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Originally Posted By ARs4EVER:
https://www.importyeti.com/company/flock-safety#addresses-section/other-names

So flock wears primax electronics underpants?


Well, at least they can enjoy some imported coffee while the mine your data.


7/11/2026 11:33:13 PM EDT
[#23]
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Originally Posted By Cobalt135:
Here's another one with paint.

They were so desperate to get that data again they sent someone up to clean off just the lens.

At least it will be half blind in the dark because they didn't clean all the IR emitters off.

And the half ass job of not going up with some graffiti remover to clean up the evidence it will be on display to encourage others.  Oh well.....


https://oaklandside.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/20251212-203555.webp
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Back in college we swapped the nozzles from gel shaving cream cans onto foam shaving cans and they would shoot much further.  I wonder if people are swapping wasp spray nozzles onto paint cans?  

That also appears to be a decent sized solar panel, surely enough to charge a bum's obama phone at their bum camp or while sitting by the road annoying people.   Shame if someone suggested that to them, or worse yet dropped dropped flyers telling them how to actually use them.
7/12/2026 1:12:58 AM EDT
[#24]
Good one that explains the basics of the situation and useful info. Tells about some of the various types of these things, related topics, and a few practical things.

Bit longer, when you get some time, grab a sandwich and a drink and a notepad and give it a watch.

The Road is Watching: How to Minimize Being Tracked (Flock Cameras Exposed)
7/12/2026 12:25:30 PM EDT
[#25]
Related:

Russia hacks doorbell cameras to spy on Nato bases

Russia has been spying on Nato military bases through civilian cameras connected to the internet, Dutch intelligence services said.

Kremlin-based hackers accessed the devices to monitor the transfer of military equipment to Ukraine, the AIVD domestic security and MIVD military intelligence agencies said.

Their joint investigation found the Russian operation had targeted cameras pointing towards military transport routes in the hope of identifying what weapons were being sent to Kyiv.

“Organisations with IP [internet protocol] cameras on these routes have now been warned so that they could take action,” the agencies warned after exposing what they described as a “large-scale Russian operation”.

They said it had targeted “European Nato member states, including the Netherlands, and Ukraine”.

Internet protocol cameras, which are cameras with internet access, have risen to prominence in recent years because of cheap Chinese imports and high-speed broadband connections.

While the intelligence agencies did not specify the type of cameras hacked, the doorbell systems are frequently used by people to monitor their property from mobile phones. Hackers then use readily available apps to scan for devices that might be accessible...
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True success is not the absence of failure, it is the refusal to surrender - Lazarus Lake

NorCal Call Sign: Sicario
7/12/2026 2:31:07 PM EDT
[#26]
Car reviewer swarmed by cops after Flock cam mistake

Car reviewer swarmed by cops after Flock cam mistake


A Minnesota man who reviews cars was involved in a frightening situation after his car was mistaken for a stolen vehicle due to a Flock camera error. Joel Feder with The Drive says he was testing a Range Rover when he and his wife were swarmed by law enforcement last week all due to the Flock camera error.


Minnesota man pulled over due to Flock camera mistake
7/12/2026 3:03:12 PM EDT
[#27]
Something new to me that I noticed about how Flock and law enforcement can, and are using Flock LPR Cameras.

A few weeks ago, we took a trip to Oklahoma to check on the progress of our new house.
We stopped in Flagstaff for breakfast, and while heading back to I-40, I noticed a LPR camera that was not facing to the rear of the motor vehicle, to capture the plate, but was facing to the front of the passing vehicles.

It turns out, Flagstaff dropped their contract with Flock (ICE Related), and the camera I saw was actually a Coconino County Sheriff's camera, one of twenty.

Arizona does not have front plates, and there was no 2nd camera facing towards the rear of the passing vehicle, which is how I've always seen them setup.
I don't see how they can put people with a plate, unless your vehicle has a front plate, if they are not picking up the rear plate, but there it is.

FWIW, my agency does use Flock LPR's, but they are set up to only scan plates that come into, or leave the Town at three points, for a total of 6 cameras.
Unlike the Town that I currently live in at this time, that has gone full retard with Flock LPR's and the Flock Video Cameras, which is up to a total of 99 LPR and video cameras.

Jay
Whites tend not to riot. They mostly have three speeds:
Uninvolved, Peaceful but Passionate Protesting, or Genocide
7/12/2026 3:16:27 PM EDT
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Car reviewer swarmed by cops after Flock cam mistake

Minnesota man pulled over due to Flock camera mistake
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Not the worst interaction with someone in an alleged stolen vehicle, but this interaction should never have happened.
I'd like to see all the BC video, to hear the Cop's discussions during the contact with the guy and his wife, about Flock getting this wrong, because I can guarantee, there was some discussion about it during the actual contact.

There is a good chance that the Cops were pretty low key about it, because they are aware of just how many time Flock gets it wrong.

Edit:
The driver brought up a very good and valid point in his interview with the TV station.
If his kids were in the car, that entire interaction and his conversation with the Cops would have been a lot different, and justifiably so.

Jay
Whites tend not to riot. They mostly have three speeds:
Uninvolved, Peaceful but Passionate Protesting, or Genocide
7/12/2026 3:46:28 PM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By AZCOP:

Not the worst interaction with someone in an alleged stolen vehicle, but this interaction should never have happened.
I'd like to see all the BC video, to hear the Cop's discussions during the contact with the guy and his wife, about Flock getting this wrong, because I can guarantee, there was some discussion about it during the actual contact.

There is a good chance that the Cops were pretty low key about it, because they are aware of just how many time Flock gets it wrong.

Edit:
The driver brought up a very good and valid point in his interview with the TV station.
If his kids were in the car, that entire interaction and his conversation with the Cops would have been a lot different, and justifiably so.

Jay
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Well I'll be damned the one time talking to the cops worked in his favor.
7/13/2026 3:47:13 PM EDT
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7/13/2026 4:05:17 PM EDT
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Slow down there....  This is not even in the US


7/15/2026 3:04:05 AM EDT
[#32]
Two more


Two South Carolina police officers fired over alleged misuse of Flock cameras



GREER, S.C. (WLOS)   Two police officers in Upstate South Carolina have been fired after an audit found they violated the Greer Police Department's policy on automatic license plate recognition technology.

According to a press release from the City of Greer, the police department's policy states that Flock Safety cameras must be used for "public safety related missions of the agency," and any misuse of the AI-powered license plate reader could be met with "disciplinary action."

The release said the policy regarding Flock Safety cameras has been revised multiple times, and updated policies were distributed to staff.

The Greer Police Department used Flock Safety's new AI Audit Assistance tool after receiving allegations that two officers were violating this policy, City Administrator Andrew Merriman said in the release.

"The audit corroborated the initial information, and as a result, the two officers were terminated. The City of Greer takes seriously the responsibility to protect the life, safety, and privacy of our citizens, and we utilize the latest tools and technology to perform those duties," Merriman said.
Corporal Kareem Lynch and Officer Sebastian Echeverry were terminated from their positions on June 26 and June 29, respectively.

The Greer Police Department reported these two terminations to the South Carolina Criminal Justice Academy for them to determine the status of the officers' certifications.

No additional details regarding how the two now-former officers allegedly misused the automatic license plate recognition technology were provided by the city.

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https://wlos.com/news/local/2-south-carolina-police-officers-fired-misusing-flock-cameras-city-officials-automatic-license-plate-recognition-technology-public-safety-ai-powered-terminated
7/15/2026 3:10:25 AM EDT
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And another.  This guy was already suspended and reinstated last year for the same....


Pasadena police officer accused of misusing Flock camera, councilmember says



Pasadena police officer accused of misusing Flock camera, councilmember says

PASADENA, Texas (KTRK) -- A Pasadena police officer has resigned following an ongoing investigation into the misuse of the Flock camera system, according to Pasadena City Councilmember Emmanuel Guerrero.

According to Guerrero, the first investigation into the officer misusing the cameras was last year in March. The officer was suspended and later reinstated in August 2025.

Guerrero said the most recent investigation began earlier this year, which led to the officer's resignation last week.

"So there are laws that protect public trust. And then the second allegation was the stalking and following of a female police officer. And the stalking or following of any officer is a felony. So, there are two felonies at once," Guerrero said.

The officer has not been charged with a crime
, but Guerrero said the internal investigations are ongoing.

Guerrero says he is supports protecting the public, solving crimes through license plate reading, and finding criminals, using Flock cameras, but not misusing the Flock system. "The misuse of the Flock system is a misuse of public resources by this, by one law enforcement individual," Guerrero said.

ABC13 reached out to the officer involved, and his attorney said they declined to comment at this time.

Eyewitness News has also reached out to the Pasadena Police Department but has not heard back.

On Tuesday, Pasadena Mayor Mayor Thomas Schoenbein responded with the following statement that read in part:

"The City of Pasadena is aware of the information being shared about an ongoing investigation involving a former employee of the Pasadena Police Department. While we can confirm that this investigation was started in May of 2026, we will not discuss the issue further in order to protect the integrity of the ongoing investigation and to comply with applicable laws. My office or the City has not authorized the release of any statements regarding ongoing investigations."

"We are committed to maintaining the integrity of our organization and the confidence our residents place in us. As such, the City of Pasadena stands with our dedicated police officers who work every day to uphold the highest standards and keep our community safe."

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7/15/2026 3:26:24 AM EDT
[#34]
Wait, there's more.  There are 5 in total at this department under investigation.  These last 3 posts are all new reports that have been in the last couple days.


2 Wisconsin police officers under investigation for alleged Flock camera misuse





Two Racine police officers under investigation for alleged Flock camera misuse; DA also reviewing RCSO case

RACINE   The Racine Police Department confirms that two of its officers are under investigation for allegedly misusing Flock license plate-reading cameras. This development comes the same week two Milwaukee police officers are scheduled to appear in court on separate Flock misuse criminal charges.

The Racine Police Chief has not disclosed details about what the two Racine officers are accused of doing, citing the active nature of the investigation. The two officers have hired a lawyer who declined to comment. TMJ4 is not naming those officers because they have not been criminally charged.

Racine County District Attorney Patricia Hanson said the investigations don't stop there. She tells TMJ4 that three other alleged Flock misuse cases in Racine County have been referred to her office for potential criminal prosecution. Hanson said she had already chosen not to charge two of them for reasons she has yet to specify. She says she has not yet made a charging decision on the third.

In total, based on information from prosecutors and police, five Racine County officers either have been or are currently being investigated for alleged misuse of the system.

The Racine Police Department operates 37 Flock cameras spread across the city. The cameras photograph the back of every vehicle that passes, capturing identifiable features including make, model, and license plate. That data is stored in a database for 30 days and is intended to help police solve crimes.

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https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/in-your-community/racine-county/two-racine-police-officers-under-investigation-for-alleged-flock-camera-misuse-da-also-reviewing-rcso-case
7/15/2026 10:27:50 AM EDT
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7/15/2026 11:13:48 AM EDT
[#36]
Reports of damaged and tampered ones in our area.
7/15/2026 1:11:25 PM EDT
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Wait till someone puts up a scoreboard.
7/15/2026 1:14:51 PM EDT
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https://floridapolitics.com/archives/807734-leon-county-commissioners-unanimously-pull-flock-camera-funding-after-public-pressure/
The Commission delayed a $440K expansion of license plate reader technology.

The Leon County Commission voted unanimously to pull an agenda item that would have earmarked $440,000 to expand Flock license plate reader (LPR) cameras.

The funding source came from a regional public safety grant, not local tax dollars, but numerous speakers from the packed crowd voiced their opposition to what they perceived to be a violation of their privacy rights.

“Tracking thousands of innocent citizens who are just trying to drive to work, drop their kids off at school, or go to the grocery store is an overreach into our privacy,” said Devin Nobles, a computer engineer who addressed the Commission.

Eventually, Commissioners motioned to pull the item. Commission Chair Christian Caban told those gathered that while he supports law enforcement, he sees Flock cameras as an invasion of privacy.

“I hate those damn cameras,” Caban said.

Tuesday’s decision is the latest sign that Flock opponents are gaining momentum. Gubernatorial candidates Byron Donalds and James Fishback have recently come out against the technology, as have multiple candidates in the race for Florida’s 2nd Congressional District, which includes Leon County.
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https://therecord.media/lapd-halts-flock-safety-alpr-contract

The Los Angeles Police Department is not renewing its contract with automated license plate reader (ALPR) camera company Flock Safety amid a dispute over who controls the data Flock collects.

The decision to put the relationship on ice, announced July 11 by the LAPD, comes in the wake of an inspector general’s audit that pushed the department to stop using Flock technology pending the addition of enforceable privacy and security rules.

The audit found that over a two-month period, the department investigated 161 car owners whose vehicles Flock wrongly identified as stolen, according to 404 Media.

The LAPD wants better safeguards protecting the collected data, said Chief Information Officer Dean Gialamas.

“The sticking point is around having very clear terms about who owns the data, what happens with the data once they collect it,” Gialamas said.

The LAPD will not use Flock “until we can get those data, privacy, security and sharing concerns ironed out through a contractual relationship,” he added.

A department spokesperson confirmed the decision but did not otherwise comment.  
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You know it's screwed up when even the LAPD has it's nose in a twist.
7/15/2026 1:17:56 PM EDT
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https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/while_the_political_circus_distracts_us_flock_builds_the_digital_police_state

Yet the real power—and the real danger—of Flock does not come from the cameras alone.

It comes from artificial intelligence.

A camera can photograph a car. Flock’s AI-powered platform can identify and categorize a vehicle, compare an observation with stored records, generate alerts, identify connections and help police reconstruct where that vehicle has been.

AI is what transforms a photograph into the building blocks for a suspect society.

With AI, every driver becomes a data point. Every data point becomes a pattern. And every pattern becomes a suspicion.

This is how ordinary movements become potentially suspect and subject to government scrutiny. It allows law enforcement agencies to search not only for a complete license plate number but also for partial plates and physical descriptions such as vehicle color, make, model, damage, roof racks, bumper stickers and other identifying characteristics.

A police officer might ask the system to locate every red pickup truck with a ladder rack seen near a protest, every vehicle that repeatedly visited a particular address, or every car observed traveling between two locations.

The artificial intelligence does the sorting. The database supplies the history.

The government receives a list of potential suspects.

This is no longer surveillance conducted by individual officers following particular leads. It is surveillance conducted at machine speed, across entire populations, with algorithms deciding whose movements merit further scrutiny.

Consider the scale of what is taking place.

License plate cameras now log approximately 20 billion vehicle scans every month.
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Flock is also part of a much larger shift toward AI-powered “data fusion,” in which license plate records are combined with facial recognition results, surveillance video, police reports, social media activity, commercially purchased information, gunshot-detection alerts and other government databases.

The danger is no longer merely that one system can track a car. It is the merger of previously separate streams of information into a single system capable of mapping a person’s movements, relationships, habits and associations.

These systems increasingly do more than provide officers with information to evaluate. They assign significance to associations, flag supposed threats and generate investigative leads—often through proprietary algorithms that neither the accused nor the public can examine.

Artificial intelligence does not eliminate human prejudice, institutional bias or bad information.

It industrializes them.

Feed a flawed system inaccurate data, biased arrest records or constitutionally suspect surveillance, and AI can reproduce those defects at a speed and scale no individual police officer could match.

Once the computer labels someone suspicious, moreover, officers may treat the algorithmic conclusion as objective fact.

The machine accuses. The police act. The citizen is left to prove that the machine was wrong.
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The danger is that the system permits government officials to begin with a location, a description or a fragment of information and work backward until someone emerges as a suspect.

That reverses the traditional order of constitutional policing.

Under the Fourth Amendment, police are supposed to develop individualized suspicion, establish probable cause and then apply for a warrant to search for evidence connected to a particular person or crime.

Mass surveillance systems begin by collecting information on everyone.

In the process, every innocent person is treated as a potential suspect whose movements must be recorded just in case the government someday decides they are relevant.

This is guilt by algorithm.
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7/15/2026 1:19:41 PM EDT
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And another.  This guy was already suspended and reinstated last year for the same....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFLp-Hhth0


https://abc13.com/post/pasadena-police-officer-accused-misusing-flock-camera-councilmember-says/19501287/
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That begs an obvious question: how many cops are caught, but just quietly disciplined, so we never hear about it?
7/15/2026 1:21:10 PM EDT
[#41]
7/15/2026 1:27:44 PM EDT
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I've seen where cities have stopped working with flock but can't get the cameras down because the city doesn't own them or something like that.
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The agreement is usually that the cities have their maintenance people install the cameras but flock still owns them.  
Once the agreement is cancelled flock still owns the cameras, they are still operating, and flock now owns the data they collect.  
The city can remove them anytime they want because they are on city property.  

The key question is if the city still has access to the data from the flock cameras on city property?  
Note that an agreement isn't needed for this - the city simply says they have exited the agreement and nothing changes unless the flock people disable the city's access.  If flock did that then the city would remove the cameras...  but the cities claims they have no agreement while they still access the data and flock then sells the data however they want.  

It's just a slight of hand that politicians do to save face and appeal to their base.  

ETA: simply cut the wire to the solar panel.  The battery will die in a day or two and a human will have to come out to put up a new solar panel.  A tree trimmer on a short pole lets you cut the wire in just a couple seconds, no climbing or time spent cutting down the pole.  The cameras are so cheap that the human labor to repair/replace is what costs them money.
7/15/2026 1:40:19 PM EDT
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Saw a couple cut down in my area this week

Have also noticed a large social media push from police departments and a couple officers i know posting these pre-prepared statements of "facts" about the flock system, obviously coordinated at some level as they're all very similar in the wording
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7/15/2026 1:46:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TXBBQGuy:
Saw a couple cut down in my area this week

Have also noticed a large social media push from police departments and a couple officers i know posting these pre-prepared statements of "facts" about the flock system, obviously coordinated at some level as they're all very similar in the wording
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Saw a couple cut down in my area this week

Have also noticed a large social media push from police departments and a couple officers i know posting these pre-prepared statements of "facts" about the flock system, obviously coordinated at some level as they're all very similar in the wording

It can't POSSIBLY be that the public has finally figured out how screwed up Automated License Plate Readers are as a category because flock is fronted and apparently run by a bunch of do-gooding totalitarian "for your good" control freaks.

I mean ... check this out:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/license-plate-cameras-will-soon-track-phones-wearables-infotainment-and-even-your-pets

License Plate Cameras Will Soon Track Phones, Wearables, Infotainment, and Even Your Pets
A new kind of license-plate-reading camera will also scrape the smart devices you take with you, and wrap all that data in a nice little bow for law enforcement and the government.


Adam Ismail

Published Jun 17, 2026 12:17 PM EDT

If data brokers can track the devices you take with you, they know where you live, where you go, and what you do. And the stakes are only poised to climb higher, now that surveillance companies that sell automatic license plate readers (ALPRs) are getting in on the game. Defense contractor Leonardo is promoting a new technology called SignalTrace that will package plate cameras with sensors that can scrape unique identifiers tied to your smart devices and make that data available to law enforcement.

A recent report by 404 Media dives into the objective of SignalTrace and how it’s being marketed to authorities. Police, border security, and other government agencies already comprise Leonardo’s customer base, and with this technology, those clients seek to correlate footage from these cameras to phones, tablets, wearables, AirTags, and, naturally, the electronics inside cars themselves.

If SignalTrace can pick up your Bluetooth headphones, you can be damn sure it’ll also be looking out for your vehicle’s 5G hotspot, infotainment system, and even its tire pressure monitoring sensors. Hell, the company includes pet microchips as a potential entry point to tracking.


People have been trying to warn about the very idea of ALPRs and this kind of mass surveillance for decades.

Apparently it just took the jerks at flock and a super-creepy advertisement by ring doorbell to make everyone notice.
7/15/2026 1:47:17 PM EDT
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7/15/2026 2:03:42 PM EDT
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Good one that explains the basics of the situation and useful info. Tells about some of the various types of these things, related topics, and a few practical things.

Bit longer, when you get some time, grab a sandwich and a drink and a notepad and give it a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFaHE4Pm5OQ
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Thank you for the video

Troubling trend
7/15/2026 2:23:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TXBBQGuy:
Saw a couple cut down in my area this week

Have also noticed a large social media push from police departments and a couple officers i know posting these pre-prepared statements of "facts" about the flock system, obviously coordinated at some level as they're all very similar in the wording
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Originally Posted By TXBBQGuy:
Saw a couple cut down in my area this week

Have also noticed a large social media push from police departments and a couple officers i know posting these pre-prepared statements of "facts" about the flock system, obviously coordinated at some level as they're all very similar in the wording
Yeah, kind of like the misinformation/disinformation and BS "Fact Checking" that we had about all kinds of stuff 3 to 6 years back.  This will be the new push.  There are already firms hired to start the process to make Flock look like the best thing to happen to America.




Flock's Secret War Council

How Flock Safety Assembled An 8-Figure Crisis Communications Team Inside Dunwoody City Hall to "Drive Activations", and Why I Filed A Formal Ethics Complaint About It Today

On February 12, 2026, while I was filing open records requests and presenting documented evidence of security failures and unauthorized camera sharing to the City Council, Flock Safety was holding a meeting behind closed doors inside Dunwoody City Hall.

The attendees included the president of a $100 million Republican crisis communications firm that "[brings] a unique network of public relations operatives to drive activations" of their "network of over 1,000 local operatives", the COO of a brand-new political influence operation that "[builds] and [manages] hyperlocal campaigns that blend community outreach, grassroots advocacy, and media engagement", and a former Biden White House communications director, whose company "[crafts] a proactive narrative and [implements] it through targeted outlets."

Dunwoody was represented, at least on paper, by a single police lieutenant.

I know this because the calendar invite ended up in a city government inbox, and I got it through the Georgia Open Records Act.



Here are some private firms in attendance that met with the Dunwoody police.  The city council will not answer the question of who assembled the highlighted persons.

The confirmed attendees were:

From Flock Safety:
  • Holly Beilin, Chief of Staff to the CCO Josh Thomas (organizer)

From the City of Dunwoody:
  • Timothy Fecht, Lieutenant, Dunwoody Police Department

From outside firms:
  • Targeted Victory - Crisis Communications, Risk & Reputation Strategic Consulting, and Victory at Scale among their services, and advertises a network of 1,000 operatives and 50-state activation capability.
  • SixAM Strategies - "community outreach, grassroots advocacy, and media engagement." They can deploy within 48 hours, and their services run "from corporate reputation development to direct advocacy to state and federal policymakers."
  • West Shore Strategies - whose website describes its work as "we craft a proactive narrative and implement it through targeted outlets."

7/15/2026 2:33:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TXBBQGuy:
Saw a couple cut down in my area this week

Have also noticed a large social media push from police departments and a couple officers i know posting these pre-prepared statements of "facts" about the flock system, obviously coordinated at some level as they're all very similar in the wording
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Same. Social media is awash in agencies posting very similar statements, all with the same smug, condescending "we know what's best for you peons" tone. The departments are getting savaged in the comment section of every post.

I've also noticed the same uptick in individual officers posting the same talking points. It's 100% coordinated.
7/15/2026 4:13:40 PM EDT
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Flocking is stalking. I'm waiting for class action lawsuit Citizens of America vs Flock.
7/15/2026 9:34:41 PM EDT
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Same. Social media is awash in agencies posting very similar statements, all with the same smug, condescending "we know what's best for you peons" tone. The departments are getting savaged in the comment section of every post.

I've also noticed the same uptick in individual officers posting the same talking points. It's 100% coordinated.
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Originally Posted By TXBBQGuy:
Saw a couple cut down in my area this week

Have also noticed a large social media push from police departments and a couple officers i know posting these pre-prepared statements of "facts" about the flock system, obviously coordinated at some level as they're all very similar in the wording


Same. Social media is awash in agencies posting very similar statements, all with the same smug, condescending "we know what's best for you peons" tone. The departments are getting savaged in the comment section of every post.

I've also noticed the same uptick in individual officers posting the same talking points. It's 100% coordinated.


The lack of self awareness (or worse, being self aware and putting on this false front) is ...




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First of all no, we're not doing this. I do not answer DMs from a company that is trying to do damage control AFTER they have ruined the trust of Americans. I do not have "good faith" debates with people who want to enslave me in a fishbowl that they can monitor at all times.

Guess what guys: We don't actually have to give anyone the benefit of the doubt, or engage in "good faith" debates with bad actors. I don't have to justify my concerns about Flock to anyone. But since this condescension pissed me off, I will respond publicly, since Flock seems to want to keep our voices in the shadows and out of the public eye.

Note the argument:

"You see, King George specifically authorized quartering troops among you, I don't know what you're complaining about it's ALL LEGAL".

Well, golly gee guys, I guess it's all right then, they made it legal.

That's exactly the problem. Notice how nobody has a problem with standard security cameras. Public security cameras are not the problem...directly pumping the feed of every square inch of the country into a centralized federal database is one HELL of a problem and we must do everything within our rights as Americans to push back against efforts like this, if we are to have a future as a nation.

Flock, much like Palantir, took the decently good idea of improving security, and implemented it in the most cartoonishly evil way possible at nearly every single step. They are working directly for all levels of government....not the citizenry. They use subterfuge, legal technicalities, and every single trick in the book to put up hundreds of cameras every single day. They constantly mislead the public about what databases their sensors feed into, and who they sell the metadata to.

They have so little oversight that it's laughable, and ALL oversight involves the classic case of "we investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing". Flock has been caught lying MANY times, and misleading the public regarding what their cameras actually do. Newsflash...they don't just read license plates.

They are also concealing which agencies purchase their data specifically so as to avoid getting warrants, and in doing so they have turned the ENTIRE COUNTRY into an open air prison....where THEY get to provide the intelligence data to those who enforce the laws as selectively as they please.

And their defense for doing so? "Aww look at the cute puppy we rescued" or "We arrested one guy using our camera network, we're so AWESOME".

You don't get to arrest one genuine criminal, and use that as justification to set up and entire Minority Report-esque surveillance system to surveil the entire country. You don't get to betray trust, and then be sad that people don't trust you. You don't get to cozy up to the boot of tyranny so much that you become the boot yourself, and then pretend to be just "one of the guys".

We will not fall for this gaslighting, no matter how hard they try.

For some reason, many people think that private companies can't be tyrants, which could not be further from the truth. At a certain point, a private company can be so heavily embedded within government, that they might as well BE the government. Except they are worse, because we don't even have the tiniest way to hold them accountable except for taking the billion-dollar company to court.

That's my problem with Flock, Palantir, and pretty much every single other defense contractor in existence. I will NOT accept every single facet of my life being monitored, just in case a criminal commits a crime somewhere near me. I will NOT live in "ze pod", no matter which politician is in power, and I will not accept a future where people like this will dictate to me what my country should be.


From the tweet:


Chief Strategy Officer @flock_safety

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