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Posted: 5/15/2023 9:15:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
This is fucking genius. Adapting 60mm mortars to fire the plentiful 40x53mm grenade [/quo te]That is interesting |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 9:15:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Missile command.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 9:17:36 PM EDT
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UA should announce a Patriot battery was destroyed after every attack. It would be a real mind fuck for Russia.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 9:18:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/15/2023 9:25:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Kyiv v deo of SAMs.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 9:43:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: j_hooker]
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Looks like at the end is a fire on the far right side of the screen
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Posted: 5/15/2023 9:44:48 PM EDT
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I didn't think AD vid's were supposed to be posted.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 9:45:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: UA should announce a Patriot battery was destroyed after every attack. It would be a real mind fuck for Russia. Maybe even set off some fireworks to make it look like something got hit |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 9:57:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: I didn't think AD vid's were supposed to be posted. They aren't, but someone wanted likes on Twitter and the Russian Twitter accounts are quick to pick up and post the videos. I figure they can geolocate the area someone filmed from and move the air defense when this gets seen. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:02:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: They aren't, but someone wanted likes on Twitter and the Russian Twitter accounts are quick to pick up and post the videos. I figure they can geolocate the area someone filmed from and move the air defense when this gets seen. I wouldn't want to be within a mile of that location until noon tomorrow. 
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:09:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Rundown of events.
230516 01.54 ⚡️Explosions were heard in Kyiv, the work of air defense in the region is reported! 02.03 ‼️KMVA: air defense is working in Kyiv. Keep calm! Stay in shelters until the air alarm goes 02.25 Klitschko: Explosions in Kyiv. A few - in the Solomyan district. And in Shevchenkivskyi, on the territory of the zoo, rocket debris fell. All services go to places. Details later. The air alert continues, stay in shelters! All the details of the night attack on Kyiv https://war.obozrevatel.com/ukr/rosiya-vlashtuvala-nichnu-ataku-na-kiiv-progrimili-potuzhni-vibuhi-povidomlyayut-pro-robotu-ppo.htm 02.34 Update from KMVA: "There is an air alert in Kyiv. According to preliminary information, falling debris was recorded in Obolonsky, Shevchenkivskyi, Solomyanskyi and Darnytskyi districts of the capital. There are currently no data on victims and destruction. The information is being clarified. Stay in shelters until the air-raid alarm goes off!" - Serhiy Popko, head of the KMVA. 02.40 Klitschko: Several cars caught fire in the Solomyansk district as a result of falling rocket debris. The damaged building with an area of 200 square meters. Rescuers are working on the spot. The victims have not been identified so far 02.40 Klitschko: In the Darnytsia district of the capital, two cars were damaged as a result of falling rocket fragments. There was no information about the victims. While the alarm continues, stay in shelters! 02.55 ❗ In the city's Darnytskyi district, debris fell on a car on two different streets. Previously without further ignition - KMVA @ukrinform_news 02.59 ⚠️ Vitaliy Klitschko: According to preliminary information, there are three victims in the Solomyan district. There were no casualties in Obolonskyi, where the debris fell. 🟢 Repulse of the air alarm in Kyiv and a number of regions @Ukrinform_News 03.12 ⚠️ Vitaliy Klitschko: UAV wreckage fell in the forest park zone in the Darnytskyi district of the capital, without catching fire. @ukrinform_news That's it, let's go to bed and put ❤️ for the health of our air defense guys! They are the best Thanks guys! We maintain information hygiene! 💙💛 p.s. Rusnia will die! https://t.me/uaobozrevatel/76347
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:15:01 PM EDT
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Well I guess we get to see how quickly the ukranians can move patriots.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:15:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Well I guess we get to see how quickly the ukranians can move patriots. You can do it in under an hour. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:16:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Speaking of compromised, retarded or broken Americans, Exhibit A:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_0840-2818094.jpg If he's in Russia I hope he stays there. I'm sure they can provide him the things the sick bastard "believes in". He is a complete waste of oxygen. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:16:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Now that they have pieces from a successful hit, Russia is now claiming to have shot down a storm shadow.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:21:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Now that they have pieces from a successful hit, Russia is now claiming to have shot down a storm shadow.
lol, they are intercepting Himars still?
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:30:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: lol, they are intercepting Himars still? Oh no wait, that’s the vodka |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:36:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Now that they have pieces from a successful hit, Russia is now claiming to have shot down a storm shadow.
And a Bradley. And a Switchblade. And a TicTac UFO. And a partridge in a pear tree. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:39:02 PM EDT
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 ?? ?? ???? ?????? ??????.??????? ?????.(valeriy_sudche). Time to turn this party up to 11 |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:42:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:51:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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🌐 Place: #Mariupol
🗓 Date: 05/20/2022 🇺🇦 Unit: OZSP "Azov" 📌 Geolocation: 📂 Description: A fighter burns his ammunition before leaving Azovstal. Mariupol of Donetsk. region ❗️ Source  https://t.me/WarArchive_ua/1207 |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:57:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: With how far inside Russia the aircraft got hit, it doesn't look like a NASAMS did it, at least with a AIM-120B or 120C missile. It would be possible with AMRAAM-ER or maybe the latest AIM-120D fired from a NASAMS, but we don't know if anyone has publicly given those to Ukraine as of now. The lists come around once in a while. I will look and see if I can find it. Oryx on twitter has a bunch of lists. What has been promised, and sent, as well as what has been destroyed and captured. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:58:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: This is fucking genius. Adapting 60mm mortars to fire the plentiful 40x53mm grenade
That IS fucking cool. Im sure some "expert" said it would be impossible to do... |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:02:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaR3Bt-zTOUTime to turn this party up to 11 They really are just like us, just with hotter chicks in uniform.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:02:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: Without going into details because of reasons, it's a neat system but it's extremely dependent on the profile of the launch platform to achieve any semblance of desired results. It's not a wonderweapon. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: Originally Posted By Capta: This thing could be the swiss army knife of choice for a lot of jobs at the front. Plus high production rate and relatively low cost for a PGM, enough that every Russian dugout can get one. Without going into details because of reasons, it's a neat system but it's extremely dependent on the profile of the launch platform to achieve any semblance of desired results. It's not a wonderweapon. Got it. If I remember reading correctly its range is pretty limited if ground launched too. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:06:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: This is fucking genius. Adapting 60mm mortars to fire the plentiful 40x53mm grenade
Huh, that’s interesting. You need a bunch of adapters to get any rate of fire, but if it works…you can even get some armor penetration with HEDP. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:06:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: And a Bradley. And a Switchblade. And a TicTac UFO. And a partridge in a pear tree. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Originally Posted By Prime: Now that they have pieces from a successful hit, Russia is now claiming to have shot down a storm shadow.
And a Bradley. And a Switchblade. And a TicTac UFO. And a partridge in a pear tree. @ me when they intercept an Abrams. Their countermeasures are next level. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:07:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: Poland builds Europe's most powerful army Anybody else getting the impression that they are gearing up to invade Russia? |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:08:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Got it. If I remember reading correctly its range is pretty limited if ground launched too. I was on the initial fielding team for them in Iraq, don't know what's open source and what isn't so everything's going to be intentionally vague from me. They're a good ground attack weapon in very specific circumstances but as a frontline anti-drone platform I don't think they'd perform well. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:10:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Now that they have pieces from a successful hit, Russia is now claiming to have shot down a storm shadow.
Yeah, I don’t believe any of that. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:19:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By strykr: Anybody else getting the impression that they are gearing up to invade Russia? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By strykr: Originally Posted By ludder093: Poland builds Europe's most powerful army Anybody else getting the impression that they are gearing up to invade Russia? In all seriousness, I think they've just read the situation correctly. Russia, although greatly diminished thus far in Ukraine, isn't going anywhere. The fundamental aspects of Russian political culture that caused this war aren't going to change any time soon, and long term, I can see Russia becoming something of a larger Iran. The sanctions are going to hurt them, just as enormous losses of their best people in Ukraine are going to hurt them. However, they will certainly attempt to rebuild, and they've demonstrated time and time again that they're willing to use military force to achieve their goals. Plus, I think the Poles have also realized that they can't really rely on Germany and France to do much of anything to protect Eastern Europe from Russia. Long term, I think a strong alliance between Poland, the Baltics, Ukraine, and Finland is going to be what contains Russia, while the emphasis of US foreign policy shift towards East Asia. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:19:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By strykr: Anybody else getting the impression that they are gearing up to invade Russia? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By strykr: Originally Posted By ludder093: Poland builds Europe's most powerful army Anybody else getting the impression that they are gearing up to invade Russia? I know you’re KINDA joking but there is a scenario where if this ends the way everyone thinks it will (collapse of Russia/civil war) there would need to be a quick response to secure all of Russians nuclear weapons locations ASAP. Poland and UKR may be setting g themselves up to police and secure Russia while wrangling the weapons. The US needs to stay out of that as much as possible. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:22:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: I didn't think AD vid's were supposed to be posted. ehhh are they on twitter? if so I'm fairly certain the cat is out of the bag |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:22:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:35:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: In all seriousness, I think they've just read the situation correctly. Russia, although greatly diminished thus far in Ukraine, isn't going anywhere. The fundamental aspects of Russian political culture that caused this war aren't going to change any time soon, and long term, I can see Russia becoming something of a larger Iran. The sanctions are going to hurt them, just as enormous losses of their best people in Ukraine are going to hurt them. However, they will certainly attempt to rebuild, and they've demonstrated time and time again that they're willing to use military force to achieve their goals. Plus, I think the Poles have also realized that they can't really rely on Germany and France to do much of anything to protect Eastern Europe from Russia. Long term, I think a strong alliance between Poland, the Baltics, Ukraine, and Finland is going to be what contains Russia, while the emphasis of US foreign policy shift towards East Asia. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Originally Posted By strykr: Originally Posted By ludder093: Poland builds Europe's most powerful army Anybody else getting the impression that they are gearing up to invade Russia? In all seriousness, I think they've just read the situation correctly. Russia, although greatly diminished thus far in Ukraine, isn't going anywhere. The fundamental aspects of Russian political culture that caused this war aren't going to change any time soon, and long term, I can see Russia becoming something of a larger Iran. The sanctions are going to hurt them, just as enormous losses of their best people in Ukraine are going to hurt them. However, they will certainly attempt to rebuild, and they've demonstrated time and time again that they're willing to use military force to achieve their goals. Plus, I think the Poles have also realized that they can't really rely on Germany and France to do much of anything to protect Eastern Europe from Russia. Long term, I think a strong alliance between Poland, the Baltics, Ukraine, and Finland is going to be what contains Russia, while the emphasis of US foreign policy shift towards East Asia. The big problem for Russia, and why I think they can’t just “muddle along” as a hermit kingdom, is their extreme heterogeneity. They’re an empire held together by fear and violence. When Moscow’s ability to threaten genocide (and mean it) comes into doubt, the perimeter will fall away. A large part of what we’re doing is to erode Moscow’s ability to hold their periphery. North Korea can, Cuba can, I think Iran is an open question and eventually the people will get tired of the bullshit. Russia, no. IMO. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:43:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Capta]
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Holy smokes! Kiev SAMs go cyclic! 30 SAM launches in 2 minutes!
A shitload of SAMs! You can see indications of interceptions in the sky at :52 and :55, and two more at about 1:33. Guessing two SAM batteries, a Patriot and a NASAMS. Russia is going to throw literally everything they have at the Patriots, even if it’s foolish. They need the propaganda win more than anything. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:48:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: The big problem for Russia, and why I think they can't just "muddle along" as a hermit kingdom, is their extreme heterogeneity. They're an empire held together by fear and violence. When Moscow's ability to threaten genocide (and mean it) comes into doubt, the perimeter will fall away. A large part of what we're doing is to erode Moscow's ability to hold their periphery. North Korea can, Cuba can, I think Iran is an open question and eventually the people will get tired of the bullshit. Russia, no. IMO. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Originally Posted By strykr: Originally Posted By ludder093: Poland builds Europe's most powerful army Anybody else getting the impression that they are gearing up to invade Russia? In all seriousness, I think they've just read the situation correctly. Russia, although greatly diminished thus far in Ukraine, isn't going anywhere. The fundamental aspects of Russian political culture that caused this war aren't going to change any time soon, and long term, I can see Russia becoming something of a larger Iran. The sanctions are going to hurt them, just as enormous losses of their best people in Ukraine are going to hurt them. However, they will certainly attempt to rebuild, and they've demonstrated time and time again that they're willing to use military force to achieve their goals. Plus, I think the Poles have also realized that they can't really rely on Germany and France to do much of anything to protect Eastern Europe from Russia. Long term, I think a strong alliance between Poland, the Baltics, Ukraine, and Finland is going to be what contains Russia, while the emphasis of US foreign policy shift towards East Asia. The big problem for Russia, and why I think they can't just "muddle along" as a hermit kingdom, is their extreme heterogeneity. They're an empire held together by fear and violence. When Moscow's ability to threaten genocide (and mean it) comes into doubt, the perimeter will fall away. A large part of what we're doing is to erode Moscow's ability to hold their periphery. North Korea can, Cuba can, I think Iran is an open question and eventually the people will get tired of the bullshit. Russia, no. IMO. Those are some good points. It seems a bit excessive when you consider that they are covered under Article 5 but a strong military also allows them to project force. Perhaps it is a credible threat to make Russia think twice about invading Belarus or Georgia again. Poland and Ukraine together would be a serious threat to Russia whenever they think about expanding or policing other countries. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 12:01:11 AM EDT
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There’s more going on over there than I can keep up with so, I come here usually every day and read the last two pages.
However, I’d like to ask if I’m the only one who’s been under the impression for a couple of months that, Bahkmut was a trap? Maybe not from the beginning but developed into one? Russia advances, Ukraine causes them tremendous losses for a while then backs off. Russia moves up a few meters then thinks “we got this!”, forward! Again Ukraine causes them tremendous losses then backs off allowing Russians to advance a little. Then they do it over and over and every time Russia falls for it and throws everything they have at it but, just can’t quite get there. Ukraine holds the high ground watching the supply/escape route and just lets the Russians inch ahead enough to keep them thinking they’re getting somewhere until it’s too late to turn back. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 12:09:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistorySure. Sure.
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Posted: 5/16/2023 12:09:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: What I see as a missed oppertunity is that the US/West hasn't pumped out a ton of Shahed type drones. Surely the combined west has the capacity to strap a 2 stroke to a wing with a xplody tip? Agreed. That really seems like an easy button way to turn the tables on Russia, plus also a useful weapon to then give Taiwan. Alas, the 'western' leader in those sorts of loitering muntions is Israel, and they aren't sharing. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 12:10:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Holy smokes! Kiev SAMs go cyclic! 30 SAM launches in 2 minutes! A shitload of SAMs! You can see indications of interceptions in the sky at :52 and :55, and two more at about 1:33. Guessing two SAM batteries, a Patriot and a NASAMS. Russia is going to throw literally everything they have at the Patriots, even if it’s foolish. They need the propaganda win more than anything. looks like two failed or ran into each other i cannot tell. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 12:11:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JWinGa: There’s more going on over there than I can keep up with so, I come here usually every day and read the last two pages. However, I’d like to ask if I’m the only one who’s been under the impression for a couple of months that, Bahkmut was a trap? Maybe not from the beginning but developed into one? Russia advances, Ukraine causes them tremendous losses for a while then backs off. Russia moves up a few meters then thinks “we got this!”, forward! Again Ukraine causes them tremendous losses then backs off allowing Russians to advance a little. Then they do it over and over and every time Russia falls for it and throws everything they have at it but, just can’t quite get there. Ukraine holds the high ground watching the supply/escape route and just lets the Russians inch ahead enough to keep them thinking they’re getting somewhere until it’s too late to turn back. That was my understanding. The value of holding Bahkmut was in that russian soldiers and armor were dying in such huge numbers compared to the Ukranian losses, and yet russia continued to believe it to be worth it. So Ukraine continued to consider it worth killing them. Though I understand those massive death rates were not as high once russia had finally crossed the wide open areas. And at this point I think it is worth it to continue preventing russia from being able to say that eventually they won. MUCH better after all those losses, they now actually get pushed back. It should give the russian soldiers something to think about. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 12:12:55 AM EDT
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From /k/
"I’ve lived long enough to see a Patriot battery defend itself against 10+ inbound TBMs. What a world we live in." ... "Raytheon marketing is probably overjoyed, here is 3rd party footage showing their system in a combat environment emptied it's magazines in reaction to a saturation attack and simultaneously guide 30 interceptors. Then they can pitch to their customer that the limitation to the system was the number of ready interceptors, so they better buy 2 batteries or the PAC-3 to protect against saturation." |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 12:20:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Capta]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By strykr: Those are some good points. It seems a bit excessive when you consider that they are covered under Article 5 but a strong military also allows them to project force. Perhaps it is a credible threat to make Russia think twice about invading Belarus or Georgia again. Poland and Ukraine together would be a serious threat to Russia whenever they think about expanding or policing other countries. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By strykr: Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Originally Posted By strykr: Originally Posted By ludder093: Poland builds Europe's most powerful army Anybody else getting the impression that they are gearing up to invade Russia? In all seriousness, I think they've just read the situation correctly. Russia, although greatly diminished thus far in Ukraine, isn't going anywhere. The fundamental aspects of Russian political culture that caused this war aren't going to change any time soon, and long term, I can see Russia becoming something of a larger Iran. The sanctions are going to hurt them, just as enormous losses of their best people in Ukraine are going to hurt them. However, they will certainly attempt to rebuild, and they've demonstrated time and time again that they're willing to use military force to achieve their goals. Plus, I think the Poles have also realized that they can't really rely on Germany and France to do much of anything to protect Eastern Europe from Russia. Long term, I think a strong alliance between Poland, the Baltics, Ukraine, and Finland is going to be what contains Russia, while the emphasis of US foreign policy shift towards East Asia. The big problem for Russia, and why I think they can't just "muddle along" as a hermit kingdom, is their extreme heterogeneity. They're an empire held together by fear and violence. When Moscow's ability to threaten genocide (and mean it) comes into doubt, the perimeter will fall away. A large part of what we're doing is to erode Moscow's ability to hold their periphery. North Korea can, Cuba can, I think Iran is an open question and eventually the people will get tired of the bullshit. Russia, no. IMO. Those are some good points. It seems a bit excessive when you consider that they are covered under Article 5 but a strong military also allows them to project force. Perhaps it is a credible threat to make Russia think twice about invading Belarus or Georgia again. Poland and Ukraine together would be a serious threat to Russia whenever they think about expanding or policing other countries. I won’t accuse the Russians of being “stupid” but they are prisoners of their culture. People like Girkin, a fairly smart guy who can be candid to a point, understands and will openly admit that Russia is threatened with collapse. There’s actually quite a lot of that in internal Russian discussion. But the self-analysis stops there and they almost never ask if they are to blame or how they can fix it - because many believe they have “the right” to do what they’re doing. If anything many feel they haven’t done enough of what they’re doing. However the war ends, I think the next one is inevitable because I don’t think the Russians have been brought to the point of reconsidering their own beliefs yet. Unfortunately, |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 12:20:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: That was my understanding. The value of holding Bahkmut was in that russian soldiers and armor were dying in such huge numbers compared to the Ukranian losses, and yet russia continued to believe it to be worth it. So Ukraine continued to consider it worth killing them. Though I understand those massive death rates were not as high once russia had finally crossed the wide open areas. And at this point I think it is worth it to continue preventing russia from being able to say that eventually they won. MUCH better after all those losses, they now actually get pushed back. It should give the russian soldiers something to think about. It appears that Russian forces on the outside edges are getting far enough out that they could be in danger of getting cut off, if the Ukrainians were so inclined. Just for the record, I believe/hope the Ukrainians steamroll those MFers into dust over the next couple of months. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 12:24:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Capta]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MKSheppard: From /k/ "I’ve lived long enough to see a Patriot battery defend itself against 10+ inbound TBMs. What a world we live in." ... "Raytheon marketing is probably overjoyed, here is 3rd party footage showing their system in a combat environment emptied it's magazines in reaction to a saturation attack and simultaneously guide 30 interceptors. Then they can pitch to their customer that the limitation to the system was the number of ready interceptors, so they better buy 2 batteries or the PAC-3 to protect against saturation." Does Russia even have 10 TBMs??? 
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Posted: 5/16/2023 12:31:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryFrom the article: If the MiG-35 was in Ukraine today The MiG-35 would be a major success in Ukraine. This fighter is perfectly suited to be directly targeted against tanks, ships, and heavy artillery. It is armed with guided and unguided bombs, air-to-air, and air-to-ground missiles, and a highly lethal 30mm cannon. The MiG-35 has an integrated electronic warfare pod, making it super suitable for attacking enemy air defense systems. If only - wouldn't that be sweet? 
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Posted: 5/16/2023 12:36:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Holy smokes! Kiev SAMs go cyclic! 30 SAM launches in 2 minutes! A shitload of SAMs! You can see indications of interceptions in the sky at :52 and :55, and two more at about 1:33. Guessing two SAM batteries, a Patriot and a NASAMS. Russia is going to throw literally everything they have at the Patriots, even if it's foolish. They need the propaganda win more than anything. Maybe the video cut out early, but if the incoming missiles were targeted at the AA batteries: None of them made it to their target. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 12:37:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/16/2023 12:47:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Holy smokes! Kiev SAMs go cyclic! 30 SAM launches in 2 minutes! A shitload of SAMs! You can see indications of interceptions in the sky at :52 and :55, and two more at about 1:33. Guessing two SAM batteries, a Patriot and a NASAMS. Russia is going to throw literally everything they have at the Patriots, even if it's foolish. They need the propaganda win more than anything. Incredible. Reminded me of the recent (and past) Iron Dome videos from Israel. Russian leadership is DESPERATE for a propaganda win to waste so many missiles and attack drones to try and hit Western SAM systems. From a military standpoint.. an absolute waste of dwindling resources. |
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