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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:36:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By martin248: Ukraine failed to destroy the convoy, which has now deployed into position around the area. Forward operating bases set up. Supply lines intact. Artillery in place. Ukraine appears to be able to do nothing about it. Russian probes into the city are attacked but if Russia can sit in those bases, firing artillery and choosing when and where to attack then it's just a matter of time. Only hope now is the Russian economy collapses before Kiev falls. Citation or bullshit. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:36:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_: It's a tractor. In John. Deere. Green. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_: Originally Posted By NightFAL: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/323727/traktor_jpeg-2309548.JPG It's a tractor. In John. Deere. Green. Do you even Tropic Thunder? |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:37:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
lol People are weighing the cost of extended fighting for the people of Ukraine, and also the pain for the entire world. I am also dreading when russia starts shelling kiev. Their plan is almost certainly their normal plan. Shell it until it is destroyed and the people are dead. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:37:19 PM EDT
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Check
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:37:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: They need someone with experience handling chemical weapons.  Bingo |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:39:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted  By bikedamon:Things are ripe for Serbia to start shaking things up. I see that more likely than something from China. Hope not, there goes prvi ammo |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:40:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/1314 A drone crashed in the Croatian capital last night. According to the preliminary version, it was a Soviet drone, Tu-141 "Strizh". The drone just mixed up the coordinates. It fell that night near the island of Jarun in Zagreb, Croatia. And it was supposed to go to Yarun, Novograd-Volyn district of Zhytomyr region, Ukraine. Russian soldiers made a terrible mistake by entering Jarun instead of Yarun and flew it to Croatia. Is Croatia NATO? I don't buy their lame excuses. Russia caught invading NATO airspace. Russia bombing Belarus. Time to article 5. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:41:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: stone-age]
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"A 40-mile-long (64km) Russian military convoy, composed of tanks, armored vehicles and towed artillery, has sparked dread among defending Ukrainians as it lumbered towards their capital, Kyiv.
"The column has been stalled for a week, but now the forces appear to be regrouping, according to Maxar Technologies satellite imagery taken on Thursday, which showed parts of the convoy had "largely dispersed and redeployed." Russia is regrouping for a possible attack on Kyiv, say UK defense officials, after initially making limited progress in its advancement towards the capital." https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/11/europe/kyiv-russian-convoy-intl/index.html double-tap, my bad |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:41:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:41:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AeroEngineer: Why is that the only hope? This isn't a video game. If Russia takes Kiev then all the sanctions don't suddenly stop. In fact. they will ramp up. Sooner or later the pressure will mount and countries will cut energy trade with Russia. It will be painful for the Western countries, but an absolute death blow to Russia's economy. Russia is in a no win scenario. They have lost. They cannot win. The only question now is how it finally plays out. We've seen a fair number of South American economies collapse, but now we're going to see a major world economy collapse. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AeroEngineer: Originally Posted By martin248: Ukraine failed to destroy the convoy, which has now deployed into position around the area. Forward operating bases set up. Supply lines intact. Artillery in place. Ukraine appears to be able to do nothing about it. Russian probes into the city are attacked but if Russia can sit in those bases, firing artillery and choosing when and where to attack then it's just a matter of time. Only hope now is the Russian economy collapses before Kiev falls. Why is that the only hope? This isn't a video game. If Russia takes Kiev then all the sanctions don't suddenly stop. In fact. they will ramp up. Sooner or later the pressure will mount and countries will cut energy trade with Russia. It will be painful for the Western countries, but an absolute death blow to Russia's economy. Russia is in a no win scenario. They have lost. They cannot win. The only question now is how it finally plays out. We've seen a fair number of South American economies collapse, but now we're going to see a major world economy collapse. It's amazing how many here aren't understanding this. For months, there's been endless chicken little talk about inflation of the USD being 5-15% or whatever it really is. "We'll be Weimar Germany/Zimbabwe on Monday." "If gas prices go up another $1, the entire US economy will collapse" ...because the average person paying maybe $1k a year more in gasoline is the difference, apparently. Meanwhile, in Russia, the meteor has HIT. Their currency has lost nearly all its value, they're disconnected from international banking systems, their goods can no longer be sold in most of the world, and most of the world is no longer willing to sell them anything. They are good and properly fucked on a multi-generational level. The Great Depression was a minor, industry-specific slump compared to what the Russians are about to go through. It's going to take a bit for the poison to sink in to their economy, but a fatal dose has been administered. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:42:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NeuroCrim: Bingo 
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:43:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By Shenanigunz: Dmitry Utkin, founder of the Wagner Group Russia's own little "private" mercenary army. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:44:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: Russia Seeks Foreign Volunteers To Fight in Ukraine. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60705486 Putin may bring in Syrians. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:46:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
Nuts! |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:46:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: I would like to add to this that every time these numbers are published, the US figures are the conservative estimates. The EU/NATO and Ukrainian numbers are reported as significantly higher. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: Originally Posted By Drakich: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Anyone have a source for how many KIA Russians are currently admitting to? It went from zero to 498 and stayed there. I haven't seen an update since. Ok, that's what I have seen as well- someone yesterday said 4k, but I've seen nothing from the Russians themselves either. The US was saying 4000 Russian dead, now 5-6k. Europeans were thinking 7-9. Assume 4X WIA, and that gets you anywhere from 20k WIA to 36K WIA, on top of 5K to 9K dead, for a total of 25K to 45K KIA/WIA. Seeing as they went in with 200K soldiers, that means you've lost 10% to 25% of your invasion force in a week. I would like to add to this that every time these numbers are published, the US figures are the conservative estimates. The EU/NATO and Ukrainian numbers are reported as significantly higher. Seems to me dead x 4 = wounded is a little high. Most estimates over the last few years I have seen suggest 3 wounded per dead. But the point remains valid. That's a lot of Russians for whom the war is over. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:47:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bassgasm: It's amazing how many here aren't understanding this. For months, there's been endless chicken little talk about inflation of the USD being 5-15% or whatever it really is. "We'll be Weimar Germany/Zimbabwe on Monday." "If gas prices go up another $1, the entire US economy will collapse" ...because the average person paying maybe $1k a year more in gasoline is the difference, apparently. Meanwhile, in Russia, the meteor has HIT. Their currency has lost nearly all its value, they're disconnected from international banking systems, their goods can no longer be sold in most of the world, and most of the world is no longer willing to sell them anything. They are good and properly fucked on a multi-generational level. The Great Depression was a minor, industry-specific slump compared to what the Russians are about to go through. It's going to take a bit for the poison to sink in to their economy, but a fatal dose has been administered. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:48:35 PM EDT
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Learned my first bit of Russian: Погиб means Dead
Neat iphone feature I discovered is you can highlight text like you do for a select & copy and if it's foreign language you'll get a translate option. Sadly it doesn't recognize UKR language, only RUS. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:49:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
lol I'm sure Zelenskyy will as soon as all the Russians in his country are destroyed or driven back across the border. I don't see him marching on the Kremlin any time soon. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:50:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: And this doesn't get reversed in a week, recovery will take decades. They are going to lose a generation of progress. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: Originally Posted By Bassgasm: It's amazing how many here aren't understanding this. For months, there's been endless chicken little talk about inflation of the USD being 5-15% or whatever it really is. "We'll be Weimar Germany/Zimbabwe on Monday." "If gas prices go up another $1, the entire US economy will collapse" ...because the average person paying maybe $1k a year more in gasoline is the difference, apparently. Meanwhile, in Russia, the meteor has HIT. Their currency has lost nearly all its value, they're disconnected from international banking systems, their goods can no longer be sold in most of the world, and most of the world is no longer willing to sell them anything. They are good and properly fucked on a multi-generational level. The Great Depression was a minor, industry-specific slump compared to what the Russians are about to go through. It's going to take a bit for the poison to sink in to their economy, but a fatal dose has been administered. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:50:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:50:21 PM EDT
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I’m waiting for Abu TOW to show up from Syria at this point. Why not if Assad’s henchmen are going?
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:51:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bassgasm:
Important to note for the pro-NFZ folks. I guess it would be possible to shoot down cruise missiles, but if most aircraft aren't leaving Russia/Belarus a NFZ over Ukraine is gonna be real meh. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:52:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:54:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: "A 40-mile-long (64km) Russian military convoy, composed of tanks, armored vehicles and towed artillery, has sparked dread among defending Ukrainians as it lumbered towards their capital, Kyiv. "The column has been stalled for a week, but now the forces appear to be regrouping, according to Maxar Technologies satellite imagery taken on Thursday, which showed parts of the convoy had "largely dispersed and redeployed." Russia is regrouping for a possible attack on Kyiv, say UK defense officials, after initially making limited progress in its advancement towards the capital." https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/11/europe/kyiv-russian-convoy-intl/index.html Bunch of arm-waving propaganda. If the Russians are still stuck on roads, they're not going to be able to surround Kyiv. If they're trying to "disperse" that makes it easier to destroy elements of the unit with small teams rather than drones. My guess is if the Russians are "regrouping" that means their units aren't combat effective any more and they need to reconstitute. I'm not convinced it will make much difference. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:55:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
lol Like I said a month ago, lots of connections between Israel and Russia (but I'm sure certain Christianity sects will be ready to refute this by stating the coming Gog Magog war/Russia attacking Israel...) I wonder if Iran took control of the Golan Heights or Negev if Israel would let it go to "stop war"... |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:55:34 PM EDT
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Has anyone else seen reports like this?
I just cant... |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:55:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: I’m waiting for Abu TOW to show up from Syria at this point. Why not if Assad’s henchmen are going? He tweeted he’d gladly go assist Ukraine when this kicked off. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:55:54 PM EDT
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Why doesn't the Ukrainian Air Force target some Russian jets outside of its borders? Bomb that base in Belarus where many of the Russian MIGs are operating out of? Trying not to escalate outside of their borders?
Surely we have all the intel. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:56:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bassgasm:
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:57:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustaGunNut: Important to note for the pro-NFZ folks. I guess it would be possible to shoot down cruise missiles, but if most aircraft aren't leaving Russia/Belarus a NFZ over Ukraine is gonna be real meh. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustaGunNut: Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Important to note for the pro-NFZ folks. I guess it would be possible to shoot down cruise missiles, but if most aircraft aren't leaving Russia/Belarus a NFZ over Ukraine is gonna be real meh. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:58:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By peterman: Why doesn't the Ukrainian Air Force target some Russian jets outside of its borders? Bomb that base in Belarus where many of the Russian MIGs are operating out of? Trying not to escalate outside of their borders? Surely we have all the intel. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 1:58:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Theodoric: A question I came up with this morning is whether removing sanctions is a part of the negotiation process between Ukraine and Russia. It seems that Russia would have much, much less incentive to give Ukraine a decent deal to achieve peace if all of the sanctions will remain in place after a peace deal is reached. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:00:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: It's a case of trust/good will. If sanctions are lifted no financial institution is going to do business with Russia, those kinds of relationships take years to develop. It's the nation-state version of a credit score and Russia's is borked. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: Originally Posted By Theodoric: A question I came up with this morning is whether removing sanctions is a part of the negotiation process between Ukraine and Russia. It seems that Russia would have much, much less incentive to give Ukraine a decent deal to achieve peace if all of the sanctions will remain in place after a peace deal is reached. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:00:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:00:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NightFAL: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/323727/traktor_jpeg-2309548.JPG John Deere has the makings of a new ad campaign after this war.  Nothing tows like a Deere. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:01:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Heartbreaker1373: Check out the bing homepage today |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:02:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mercersfinest4: Citation or bullshit. Yep. Unless Kiev is surrounded and cut off there is zero chance that Kiev ever falls. Allowing a secure FOB is a failure yes, IF that happened. But it won’t result in the fall Kiev in the least by itself. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:02:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:03:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SoCalExile]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: "A 40-mile-long (64km) Russian military convoy, composed of tanks, armored vehicles and towed artillery, has sparked dread among defending Ukrainians as it lumbered towards their capital, Kyiv. "The column has been stalled for a week, but now the forces appear to be regrouping, according to Maxar Technologies satellite imagery taken on Thursday, which showed parts of the convoy had "largely dispersed and redeployed." Russia is regrouping for a possible attack on Kyiv, say UK defense officials, after initially making limited progress in its advancement towards the capital." https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/11/europe/kyiv-russian-convoy-intl/index.html Second, this isn't a video game where all you have to do to capture the objective is park in an overlayed circle and you win the game. If they get to Kyiv, then the real struggle begins for the Russians, since potentially they have to fight an entire city that has 360-degree coverage of them. The Russians are having trouble even capturing the 'burbs. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:03:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
Alexa. Call Daddy Musk. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:04:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Haub: Has anyone else seen reports like this?
I just cant... Well its 8 pm. We're waiting. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:04:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:04:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CZ75_9MM: Fuck that thing. Blow it up. you want to blow up an american astronaut? pretty sure we could go get our person before that. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:04:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
Now that is a cheap shot. Leaving a mf in space! |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:05:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
lol |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:05:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CenterMass762]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: I’m waiting for Abu TOW to show up from Syria at this point. Why not if Assad’s henchmen are going? He might already be there.
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:06:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mercersfinest4: Citation or bullshit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mercersfinest4: Originally Posted By martin248: Ukraine failed to destroy the convoy, which has now deployed into position around the area. Forward operating bases set up. Supply lines intact. Artillery in place. Ukraine appears to be able to do nothing about it. Russian probes into the city are attacked but if Russia can sit in those bases, firing artillery and choosing when and where to attack then it's just a matter of time. Only hope now is the Russian economy collapses before Kiev falls. Citation or bullshit. https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-ukraine-war-satellite-imagery-shows-portion-of-russian-military-convoy-has-dispersed-and-redeployed.amp |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:06:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Alexa. Call Daddy Musk. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Originally Posted By Chokey:
Alexa. Call Daddy Musk. Yup thats fine. A Crew Dragon capsule can seat up to 7 if they outfit it to do so. Once the russians leave, that'll free up a docking port or two. Station can be run from earth if needed. |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:07:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By agillig: LOL. Took me a second. That can't be a coincidence. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By agillig: Originally Posted By Heartbreaker1373: Check out the bing homepage todayIt isn't. They only go so far as to say that sunflowers have become "a symbol of resistance" for Ukrainians. They don't say why... |
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Posted: 3/11/2022 2:07:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SoCalExile]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By writerdeluxe2006: This war in Ukraine seems to be following the first war in Chechnya All they did was change the captions. Scroll up. |
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