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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:16:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: things are changing around the world
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:16:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Old footage from a strike on Wagner.
   
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:20:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane: Why did you even bring it up? EVERYONE with family in Ukraine is worried. You’re, intentionally or not, doing a great job of painting your cousins in a bad light. I’m going to assume that they are busy doing their best to support those around them to the best of their abilities, and, should it come to it, that they can serve in some kind of conscious objector support role. Because it’s a concern and I was thinking out loud? What, I’m supposed to get chastised by GD warmongers for not liking that there is a war going on and people are dying? My initial post was the worry of Ukraine doing the same in mobilizing untrained men like Russia is doing. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:21:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alphascout: I wonder if they end up amputating that, looks like its totally atrophied. Tough SOB. My arm was atrophied like that. Took about 3 years to get it back to “normal”. My bicep was like 9 1/2” and my good arm was 15”. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:22:01 AM EST
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 Beachgoers Surprised By Boom || ViralHog |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:22:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I'm waiting to see if they mobilize Patrick Lancaster. He’s a classic useful idiot spreading Russian lies on the internet. He’s right where they want him now. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:22:46 AM EST
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lol, this is how you know you hit the warhead.
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:25:33 AM EST
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:26:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By panthermark:  If they use a tactical nuke, the gloves come off and NATO goes in balls deep....hard....and dry. Plus, would you want to be a trooper being sent into a country with radiation everywhere? Doubt. Poland prez already said if they use nukes nothing will really happen. More sanctions and isolation. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:33:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Featureless: Towed gear can be towed by a wide range of tow vehicles. Self propelled is harder and heavier to move if the propulsion gear fails or is damaged. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Featureless: Originally Posted By Glock63: Originally Posted By AROKIE: not really, when used in firebases like we did in afghanistan that covered an AO, towed artillery worked perfect. But if you are moving frontlines and shooting and moving then mobile artillery is King. An army needs both to be effective A self propelled howitzer can sit at a firebase just as well as a towed piece if the need arises. I guess lighter towed guns might be needed in the inventory in case they need to be airlifted to remote locations. Towed gear can be towed by a wide range of tow vehicles. Self propelled is harder and heavier to move if the propulsion gear fails or is damaged. do they transport the sph to the front on a truck and trailer or do they drive it? Seems like a gas hog either way |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:34:41 AM EST
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:36:15 AM EST
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:36:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Doubt. Poland prez already said if they use nukes nothing will really happen. More sanctions and isolation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By panthermark: If they use a tactical nuke, the gloves come off and NATO goes in balls deep....hard....and dry. Plus, would you want to be a trooper being sent into a country with radiation everywhere? Doubt. Poland prez already said if they use nukes nothing will really happen. More sanctions and isolation. Fallout will blow into Russia, China and parts of the Middle East. Sanctions will be coming from everywhere. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:40:22 AM EST
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:42:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: do they transport the sph to the front on a truck and trailer or do they drive it? Seems like a gas hog either way Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Originally Posted By Featureless: Originally Posted By Glock63: Originally Posted By AROKIE: not really, when used in firebases like we did in afghanistan that covered an AO, towed artillery worked perfect. But if you are moving frontlines and shooting and moving then mobile artillery is King. An army needs both to be effective A self propelled howitzer can sit at a firebase just as well as a towed piece if the need arises. I guess lighter towed guns might be needed in the inventory in case they need to be airlifted to remote locations. Towed gear can be towed by a wide range of tow vehicles. Self propelled is harder and heavier to move if the propulsion gear fails or is damaged. do they transport the sph to the front on a truck and trailer or do they drive it? Seems like a gas hog either way They are treated just like other armored vehicles, the preferred means to move them is via transport to as close to where they will be used to prevent wear and tear. The big reason the USMC got rid of SPs in the late 80s was the mobility portion of the system is the most maintenance intense portion of the system, and guns were generally down because they could not be driven. But with towed weapons, if the prime mover goes down, you don’t lose the system, you just replace the prime mover and drive on. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:42:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Ballot for voting in the Zaporozhye region at a referendum on the issue of joining the Russian Federation as its subject. Photo: TASS
https://t.me/tass_agency  Donetsk
Snigurivchan, you are titans. Rally against the referendum and Russians. Six months of occupation
 Turnout in the referendum in the LPR at 14:00 was 13.18 percent https://ria.ru/20220923/referendum-1818937445.html LUGANSK, Sep 23 — RIA Novosti. At the referendum in the Luhansk People's Republic at 14:00, 13.18 percent of voters voted, said the Chairman of the CEC of the Republic Olena Kravchenko. "Our turnout was 179,340 voters, that is, 13.18 percent. The activity is very high," Kravchenko said. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:43:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: general_cluster]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdVh5XZXwAIURWm?format=jpg&name=largehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdVh6GPXkAEgyBS?format=jpg&name=large That thing looks like the mosin-nagant of drones. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:44:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: lol, this is how you know you hit the warhead.
That was very rewarding. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:49:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Isn't that the Balakliya footage from a couple weeks ago? |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:49:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: Don't know why they'd amputate, doesn't look like any circulatory issues. I'd think they'd be able to do some bone grafts and give him partial use of his arm again. If he can only grasp & hold something when it's all said & done, it's still an improvement over working with just one limb. I'd bet our US ortho surgeons could work a miracle. I’m not a medical professional but I agree. Our doctors at University of Michigan hospital could get a lot of function back in that arm for that hero. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 10:54:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: Dominion21]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Sorry I misunderstood the question, your very close, the number is 180,000 bb sized tungsten balls. https://www.armyrecognition.com/weapons_defence_industry_military_technology_uk/the_new_m30a1_gmlrs_alternate_warhead_to_replace_cluster_bombs_for_us_army_central_71601171.html https://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/news/2017/january/The_new_M30A1_Guided_MLRS_Alternate_Warhead_to_replace_cluster_bombs_002.jpg “180,000 tungsten steel bee-bee-sized balls” Let’s unpack this sentence-fragment (pun intended). A child’s Red Rider BB gun shoots BBs, but they are steel. They also leave the gun at comparatively low velocity. Lead BB-sized shot was something we sometimes used at about 1,100 feet per second MV on the largest birds (geese) but usually smaller #4 lead was enough anywhere inside 50 yards or so. Tungsten is even heavier than lead. So a BB made of tungsten carries considerably more kinetic energy than lead for a longer distance, but High explosives are propelling the BBs. It’s probably classified what explosive they use, but HP explodes anywhere from 4,000 fps to 8,000 fps. At the impact velocity these tungsten BBs hit, they will destroy everything short of armor or thick concrete bunkers. Even a nearby tank will likely have part of its exterior scrubbed clean of functioning sensors, projectors, optics etc. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:02:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: Dominion21]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: If my job was to destabilize Russia I'd mail mobilization summons to another million guys at random. ARFCOM CAN DO THAT. Not by actually faking and sending notices. But we have many Russian speakers on Arfcom, and they all have internet access. Just start spreading rumors on every Russian language forum, board, blog etc.: Putin is dropping the exemption for students. Putin upped the mobilization age to 55. Putin has partnered with employers to seize men at their job sites . . . Russians are extremely susceptible to fear and paranoia. Let’s exploit that. We can do it! |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:02:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: Isn't that the Balakliya footage from a couple weeks ago? The Ternovi Pody video, right? There were 3 or four vehicles in that one. Looks just like it, probably same time and region. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:02:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Those leaked documents have been shown to be fakes. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:02:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: Isn't that the Balakliya footage from a couple weeks ago? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Isn't that the Balakliya footage from a couple weeks ago? I believe it might be, but the drone footage at the end was new. It indicates they had eyes in the sky helping them maneuver and know where targets were. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:03:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lukus: Quoted from above
I'm guessing because it gives them military perks? Healthcare; discounts with groceries; vodka rations; free breakfast at Denny's. That kind of thing? My understanding is usually conscripts don't get any perks. They don't even get paid. The only perk is not actually having to be conscripted. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:03:49 AM EST
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A drone dropped an explosive device on the administration of Melitopol
https://ria.ru/20220923/melitopol-1818955321.html MOSCOW, Sep 23 - RIA Novosti. A Ukrainian drone dropped an explosive device near the administration of Melitopol on Friday morning, there were no injuries, Reported head of the regional administration Yevgeny Balitsky. "Today at seven in the morning, before the opening of the polling stations, when people went to work, some explosive object was dropped from a drone, so far I have no information, but it crashed so that the city heard. Near the administration, cars were mostly damaged, people were not injured. It was, apparently, a frightening action," Balitsky said on the TV channel "Russia 24". Similar provocations, he said, are recorded in other cities of the region. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:04:57 AM EST
[Last Edit: R0N]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dominion21: “180,000 tungsten steel bee-bee-sized balls” Let’s unpack this sentence-fragment (pun intended). A child’s Red Rider BB gun shoots BBs, but they are steel. They also leave the gun at comparatively low velocity. Lead BB-sized shot was something we sometimes used at about 1,100 feet per second MV on the largest birds (geese) but usually smaller #4 lead was enough anywhere inside 50 yards or so. Tungsten is even heavier than lead. So a BB made of tungsten carries considerably more kinetic energy for a longer distance, but High explosives are propelling the BBs. It’s probably classified what explosive they use, but HP explodes anywhere from 4,000 fps to 8,000 fps. At the impact velocity these tungsten BBs hit, they will destroy everything short of armor or thick concrete bunkers. Even a nearby tank will likely have part of its exterior scrubbed clean of functioning sensors, projectors, optics etc. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dominion21: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Sorry I misunderstood the question, your very close, the number is 180,000 bb sized tungsten balls. https://www.armyrecognition.com/weapons_defence_industry_military_technology_uk/the_new_m30a1_gmlrs_alternate_warhead_to_replace_cluster_bombs_for_us_army_central_71601171.html https://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/news/2017/january/The_new_M30A1_Guided_MLRS_Alternate_Warhead_to_replace_cluster_bombs_002.jpg “180,000 tungsten steel bee-bee-sized balls” Let’s unpack this sentence-fragment (pun intended). A child’s Red Rider BB gun shoots BBs, but they are steel. They also leave the gun at comparatively low velocity. Lead BB-sized shot was something we sometimes used at about 1,100 feet per second MV on the largest birds (geese) but usually smaller #4 lead was enough anywhere inside 50 yards or so. Tungsten is even heavier than lead. So a BB made of tungsten carries considerably more kinetic energy for a longer distance, but High explosives are propelling the BBs. It’s probably classified what explosive they use, but HP explodes anywhere from 4,000 fps to 8,000 fps. At the impact velocity these tungsten BBs hit, they will destroy everything short of armor or thick concrete bunkers. Even a nearby tank will likely have part of its exterior scrubbed clean of functioning sensors, projectors, optics etc. It’s not classified, the fill is PBX-110. There are two sizes of cubes, the majority the smaller for lighter targets and the remainder the larger for softer skins targets, like trucks and vehicles. I do believe the often cited number of 180K is a misqoute, because that is not an accurate number. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:06:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Those leaked documents have been shown to be fakes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Those leaked documents have been shown to be fakes. Thanks, might explain today's claims of only thousands of Moscow residents to be mobilized and focus on the poorer regions per a Russian govt. official. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:08:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: RolandofGilead]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kagetora: That's awesome. Maybe that entire family and 100,000,000 other Russians should stand up and do something about it. Take their country back. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kagetora: Originally Posted By Weasel_Master: Originally Posted By PvtCowboy: "Not all Russians" Okay. I know a handful of people in Russia, and not one I know supports it. I had dinner with a friend of mine who's whole family is in Russia. They are scared with the mobilization of the 300k and what's to come after. That's awesome. Maybe that entire family and 100,000,000 other Russians should stand up and do something about it. Take their country back. Youre 100% correct. But you also have to understand the Russian way of viewing the world. Their government sucks and they know it. They KNOW it will NEVER change no matter what they do. That's what their history has taught them. You stand up, you go to gulag. Most have not read Soltzinitzen (sp). Now, we could explain to them that nobody could stop a million Russians from overthrowing Putin but they would probably respond with "yeah then someone even worse will come". I'm not excusing it, but this is just the way it is. That said, there's a still a limit I suppose. No idea where it's at though. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:11:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Thanks, might explain today's claims of only thousands of Moscow residents to be mobilized and focus on the poorer regions per a Russian govt. official. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Those leaked documents have been shown to be fakes. Thanks, might explain today's claims of only thousands of Moscow residents to be mobilized and focus on the poorer regions per a Russian govt. official. No problem, it looks pretty convincing |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:20:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: I find it interesting that Russians aren't protesting the war, but protesting being conscripted to fight it. Well, unless you want to talk about people getting pregnant so they can't deploy. Keep in mind the Ukrainians had to limit the amount of military aged men leaving the country, so its not just Russians that don't want to go to a modern high intensity conflict and get yeeted by a 50 year old grenade drone dropped into their foxhole. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:30:45 AM EST
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The Belgorod refrigerated trains from yesterday.
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:35:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
As a result of a fire defeat in the Svatovo region, the commander of the 144th motorized rifle division of the 20th combined arms army, Major General Tsokov, was wounded.
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:39:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Youre 100% correct. But you also have to understand the Russian way of viewing the world. Their government sucks and they know it. They KNOW it will NEVER change no matter what they do. That's what their history has taught them. You stand up, you go to gulag. Most have not read Soltzinitzen (sp). Now, we could explain to them that nobody could stop a million Russians from overthrowing Putin but they would probably respond with "yeah then someone even worse will come". I'm not excusing it, but this is just the way it is. That said, there's a still a limit I suppose. No idea where it's at though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By Kagetora: Originally Posted By Weasel_Master: Originally Posted By PvtCowboy: "Not all Russians" Okay. I know a handful of people in Russia, and not one I know supports it. I had dinner with a friend of mine who's whole family is in Russia. They are scared with the mobilization of the 300k and what's to come after. That's awesome. Maybe that entire family and 100,000,000 other Russians should stand up and do something about it. Take their country back. Youre 100% correct. But you also have to understand the Russian way of viewing the world. Their government sucks and they know it. They KNOW it will NEVER change no matter what they do. That's what their history has taught them. You stand up, you go to gulag. Most have not read Soltzinitzen (sp). Now, we could explain to them that nobody could stop a million Russians from overthrowing Putin but they would probably respond with "yeah then someone even worse will come". I'm not excusing it, but this is just the way it is. That said, there's a still a limit I suppose. No idea where it's at though. Once you've overthrown a government in a revolution, you try VERY HARD to make sure that nobody can ever overthrow YOUR new government in a revolution.* The Bolsheviks understood this very well, and people like Lenin and Stalin were brutally effective in implementing that mindset. (* - for an exception, see the U.S. Constitution  )
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:40:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Doubt. Poland prez already said if they use nukes nothing will really happen. More sanctions and isolation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By panthermark: If they use a tactical nuke, the gloves come off and NATO goes in balls deep....hard....and dry. Plus, would you want to be a trooper being sent into a country with radiation everywhere? Doubt. Poland prez already said if they use nukes nothing will really happen. More sanctions and isolation. I don't believe that is accurate. But assuming that is the true intent of NATO, I guess we'll soon be seeing the artificial sunrise of canned sunshine. Hope everyone has SPF 2,000,000. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:41:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Once you've overthrown a government in a revolution, you try VERY HARD to make sure that nobody can ever overthrow YOUR new government in a revolution.* The Bolsheviks understood this very well, and people like Lenin and Stalin were brutally effective in implementing that mindset. (* - for an exception, see the U.S. Constitution )Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By Kagetora: Originally Posted By Weasel_Master: Originally Posted By PvtCowboy: "Not all Russians" Okay. I know a handful of people in Russia, and not one I know supports it. I had dinner with a friend of mine who's whole family is in Russia. They are scared with the mobilization of the 300k and what's to come after. That's awesome. Maybe that entire family and 100,000,000 other Russians should stand up and do something about it. Take their country back. Youre 100% correct. But you also have to understand the Russian way of viewing the world. Their government sucks and they know it. They KNOW it will NEVER change no matter what they do. That's what their history has taught them. You stand up, you go to gulag. Most have not read Soltzinitzen (sp). Now, we could explain to them that nobody could stop a million Russians from overthrowing Putin but they would probably respond with "yeah then someone even worse will come". I'm not excusing it, but this is just the way it is. That said, there's a still a limit I suppose. No idea where it's at though. Once you've overthrown a government in a revolution, you try VERY HARD to make sure that nobody can ever overthrow YOUR new government in a revolution.* The Bolsheviks understood this very well, and people like Lenin and Stalin were brutally effective in implementing that mindset. (* - for an exception, see the U.S. Constitution )Exactly. They laid the groundwork for what we see today. Communism is a cancer. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:42:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AeroEngineer: I don't believe that is accurate. But assuming that is the true intent of NATO, I guess we'll soon be seeing the artificial sunrise of canned sunshine. Hope everyone has SPF 2,000,000. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AeroEngineer: Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By panthermark: If they use a tactical nuke, the gloves come off and NATO goes in balls deep....hard....and dry. Plus, would you want to be a trooper being sent into a country with radiation everywhere? Doubt. Poland prez already said if they use nukes nothing will really happen. More sanctions and isolation. I don't believe that is accurate. But assuming that is the true intent of NATO, I guess we'll soon be seeing the artificial sunrise of canned sunshine. Hope everyone has SPF 2,000,000. Yeah I don't believe that's correct either. I remember reading something about striking Russian bases that take part in a nuke strike and sinking the entire black sea fleet. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:45:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: It’s not classified, the fill is PBX-110. There are two sizes of cubes, the majority the smaller for ligher targets and the remainder the larger for softer skins targets. I do believe the often cited number of 180K is a misqoute, because that is not an accurate number. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: Originally Posted By Dominion21: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Sorry I misunderstood the question, your very close, the number is 180,000 bb sized tungsten balls. https://www.armyrecognition.com/weapons_defence_industry_military_technology_uk/the_new_m30a1_gmlrs_alternate_warhead_to_replace_cluster_bombs_for_us_army_central_71601171.html https://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/news/2017/january/The_new_M30A1_Guided_MLRS_Alternate_Warhead_to_replace_cluster_bombs_002.jpg “180,000 tungsten steel bee-bee-sized balls” Let’s unpack this sentence-fragment (pun intended). A child’s Red Rider BB gun shoots BBs, but they are steel. They also leave the gun at comparatively low velocity. Lead BB-sized shot was something we sometimes used at about 1,100 feet per second MV on the largest birds (geese) but usually smaller #4 lead was enough anywhere inside 50 yards or so. Tungsten is even heavier than lead. So a BB made of tungsten carries considerably more kinetic energy for a longer distance, but High explosives are propelling the BBs. It’s probably classified what explosive they use, but HP explodes anywhere from 4,000 fps to 8,000 fps. At the impact velocity these tungsten BBs hit, they will destroy everything short of armor or thick concrete bunkers. Even a nearby tank will likely have part of its exterior scrubbed clean of functioning sensors, projectors, optics etc. It’s not classified, the fill is PBX-110. There are two sizes of cubes, the majority the smaller for ligher targets and the remainder the larger for softer skins targets. I do believe the often cited number of 180K is a misqoute, because that is not an accurate number. lol, regardless of the exact number of pellets, it's enough to do the damage they wanted to get from that method.  Different and much smaller warhead, same idea. This is a small RBS-70 man portable missile warhead with 3,000 tungsten pellets.    Lethality Enhanced Ordnance |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:47:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Yeah I don't believe that's correct either. I remember reading something about striking Russian bases that take part in a nuke strike and sinking the entire black sea fleet. The Base at Saratov needs to go too. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:47:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Huh. Turkey and goose duplex load. I'll be damned. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Sorry I misunderstood the question, your very close, the number is 180,000 bb sized tungsten balls. https://www.armyrecognition.com/weapons_defence_industry_military_technology_uk/the_new_m30a1_gmlrs_alternate_warhead_to_replace_cluster_bombs_for_us_army_central_71601171.html https://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/news/2017/january/The_new_M30A1_Guided_MLRS_Alternate_Warhead_to_replace_cluster_bombs_002.jpg Huh. Turkey and goose duplex load. I'll be damned. tungsten sure shot TSS has revolutionized turkey loads. Doubled the distance and reduced the shell size. (instead of 12 gauge, folks switched to 410) that stuff is bad news in a shot gun |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:51:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: lol, regardless of the exact number of pellets, it's enough to do the damage they wanted to get from that method. http://fullafterburner.weebly.com/uploads/8/4/8/6/84869598/img-20200421-154513_orig.jpg Different and much smaller warhead, same idea. This is a small RBS-70 man portable missile warhead with 3,000 tungsten pellets. https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/screenshot-www-youtube-com-2018-04-11-02-33-47.png https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/screenshot-www-youtube-com-2018-04-11-02-34-11.png It sort of does. It works better on area targets than the unitary just becuase it has more thorough cover of the area with Frag, but it did not fully meet the DPICM replacement. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:51:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Voting for the sham referendums have officially started. The entire world needs to adopt a term that is even more hostile about the fake/bullshit/illegal/criminal referendums but I guess "sham referendum" is good enough. The entire planet should call them "sham referendum" every single time and immediately disregard them as though nobody ever took them seriously. This whole thing just pisses me off. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:55:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: https://i.postimg.cc/0NbnKHrP/C21208-E0-3753-4-EF9-85-EC-EE409-E8-DEA11.jpg What is the writing on the side of this tank? I'm on extra morphine today, so is it my eyes, or is that front drive sprocket catywompass? |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:56:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: Russia, if it were smart, would train and equip the bulk of the new mobilization troops up and stage another invasion force. Then use tactical nukes on major Ukrainian cities. Then send in the troops to mop up and take the country. Just feeding the grinder is a loser for them. This is actually soviet war doctrine. Soviet troops were trained and equipped to be traveling through a nuclear waste zone buttoned up in their vehicles with basically no resistance. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 11:59:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: That’s a lot of personnel, tanks, and equipment. Among the bigger days IIRC. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By Easterner: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG_20220923_110347_jpg-2536035.JPG Oh yeah  That’s a lot of personnel, tanks, and equipment. Among the bigger days IIRC. Maybe the tweet about hitting the train full of equipment was accurate.  I sure hope it was. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 12:00:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: It sort of does. It works better on area targets than the unitary just becuase it has more thorough cover of the area with Frag, but it did not fully meet the DPICM replacement. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: lol, regardless of the exact number of pellets, it's enough to do the damage they wanted to get from that method. http://fullafterburner.weebly.com/uploads/8/4/8/6/84869598/img-20200421-154513_orig.jpg Different and much smaller warhead, same idea. This is a small RBS-70 man portable missile warhead with 3,000 tungsten pellets. https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/screenshot-www-youtube-com-2018-04-11-02-33-47.png https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/screenshot-www-youtube-com-2018-04-11-02-34-11.png It sort of does. It works better on area targets than the unitary just becuase it has more thorough cover of the area with Frag, but it did not fully meet the DPICM replacement. I agree with you there, I wish we did not get rid of DPICM. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 12:02:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By josepha1: FBI is probably going to ask Lavrov what he knows about the trump Russia collusion. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By josepha1: Originally Posted By Cypher15: Rumor is gaining steam. There would have to be a HUGE pile of credible evidence for me to believe this. It is rather hilarious what NAFO is doing with this though.
FBI is probably going to ask Lavrov what he knows about the trump Russia collusion. Wow, you guys need to put away the crack pipe. Really. Lavrov is going down with putin. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 12:04:24 PM EST
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Posted: 9/23/2022 12:13:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: Mail all of the Babushkas that every male age 13 and up in their family is to report to red square for mobilization.  And all the wives with husbands in the service too. Lets hear those cold bitches make some intercepted phone calls about "things are not so bad honey". |
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