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Posted: 6/12/2023 7:47:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyaT2wiXwAIcshe?format=png&name=small Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyaT2wiXwAIcshe?format=png&name=small lol, it's been a year since those were advertised, one wonders how many of these the Ukrainians have received by now from Taiwan. 
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Posted: 6/12/2023 7:50:45 AM EST
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3 hrs ago.
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Posted: 6/12/2023 7:51:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1668184236317179904
If Ukraine manages to liberate Staromlynivka and surrounding areas, which I think it is the short term goal in this phase, the possible HIMARS range complicates the Russian logistics very much 
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Posted: 6/12/2023 7:51:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: That variation of the JDAM is amazing. That hit would be 100% fatalities. Nobody is getting off a ship alive when hit with that. Practically all fighters can carry it. Up to 15 mile range. I found this statement interesting while looking up its specs: JDAM performance has been demonstrated in operationally representative tests including drops through clouds, rain and snow. These tests included a B-2 releasing 80 JDAMs on a single pass against multiple targets. 80 JDAMS in one pass. Wow! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By 2A373: Originally Posted By KELBEAST: Originally Posted By 2A373: The B-2 laughs at those tiny anti-ship missiles. GBU-57 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/GBU-57_B-2_jpg-2848546.JPG Jesus if that hit a Russian ship at the pier it would punch straight through the whole thing and finally come to a stop in the ocean bed underneath and then blow up under the keel like a torpedo We have bombs that can detonate under a ship's keel like a torpedo. QUICKSINK That variation of the JDAM is amazing. That hit would be 100% fatalities. Nobody is getting off a ship alive when hit with that. Practically all fighters can carry it. Up to 15 mile range. I found this statement interesting while looking up its specs: JDAM performance has been demonstrated in operationally representative tests including drops through clouds, rain and snow. These tests included a B-2 releasing 80 JDAMs on a single pass against multiple targets. 80 JDAMS in one pass. Wow! @RockNwood Here is the first 80 JDAM test pass with the B-2 using inert early versions of the GBU-38.  B-2 drops 80 JDAMs. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 7:58:19 AM EST
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Wait for the strikes, long line of Russian armor getting hit.
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:00:03 AM EST
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IN, USA
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:00:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:01:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Interesting. The Ukrainians have given off the impression of being very technologically adept. I recall that during the War in the Donbas, Western forces who were training Ukrainians recalled that they were using Western counter-battery radars in ways that were theoretically beyond their capability. It seems this is another example of that. I also recall a couple months back that Michael Kofman and a few others were subtlety hinting that the Ukrainians had come up with their own version of Blue Force Tracker. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Originally Posted By Zam18th:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyYcotwWAAAROQ4?format=jpg&name=small Interesting. The Ukrainians have given off the impression of being very technologically adept. I recall that during the War in the Donbas, Western forces who were training Ukrainians recalled that they were using Western counter-battery radars in ways that were theoretically beyond their capability. It seems this is another example of that. I also recall a couple months back that Michael Kofman and a few others were subtlety hinting that the Ukrainians had come up with their own version of Blue Force Tracker. Don't surprised about it ... USSR wouldn't have been what they were nor Russia for what they are without Ukranian tech and science ... |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:02:00 AM EST
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3 hrs ago.
 
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:04:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Evil_Chaos: Don't we have a few Sturgeon Class mothballed somewhere? We could donate or lend those to a Navy that doesn't exist. You know, the one tthat has sunk 18 Russky ships. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Evil_Chaos: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
It's just cheaper and easier to give them export Harpoon missiles that they can ground or air launch instead of training a submarine crew. People are kidding themselves if they think they need to match the number of ships an enemy has. There are other force multipliers that can be used.  Harpoon anti-ship missile sinks ex-USS Durham |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:09:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yekimak: Retreating troops getting shot by a blockade squad. Like what good does that do! Typical communist way to fight ... |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:09:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: ServusVeritatis]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 3 hrs ago.
Lots of 4th Gen fighters and aircraft is my bet. A lot of F16 and all those F/A-18 from Australia is my bet. I’ll take a guess and say over 100 4th Gen (60+ F-16 & 41 F/A-18 at minimum) will get promised this week. That’s the big news. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:09:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: It will be hard to tell, but those don't look like warning shots. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fya929WXwAYJI5d?format=jpg&name=360x360 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By SoCalExile: Originally Posted By yekimak: Retreating troops getting shot by a blockade squad. Twitter link. Video seems off. No dust kicking up from the missed shots is one problem. Waiting on more info. It will be hard to tell, but those don't look like warning shots. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fya929WXwAYJI5d?format=jpg&name=360x360 I might be wrong, but still seems off to me. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:12:47 AM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Follow the litter.  Over a year and they learned not much. 
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:13:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: Hollywood (other than that Baldwin guy) must use real bullets all the time then. I might be wrong, but still seems off to me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By SoCalExile: Originally Posted By yekimak: Retreating troops getting shot by a blockade squad. Twitter link. Video seems off. No dust kicking up from the missed shots is one problem. Waiting on more info. It will be hard to tell, but those don't look like warning shots. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fya929WXwAYJI5d?format=jpg&name=360x360 I might be wrong, but still seems off to me. You may be right, so far I found that the video was initially released by a Ukrainian source, but it's claimed a Ukrainian drone is what filmed it. Geo location might show this is firmly on the Russian side of the front which could give it more credibility. We'll have to keep an eye on this either way, it's interesting. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:13:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MarkNH: Macgregor needs to swing from a tree before this is over. I think him, Tucker, and a few others have done severe damage to the American psyche. Once all their lies get blown up along with the Russian invaders the poor stupid Americans that believed them will suffer yet another huge trust shattering blow and may actually lose their minds for good. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:14:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: We don't know how many were recovered for repair but it does sting a little. I'm sure they're learning. I honestly didn't think they'd use much Western armor for breaching minefields (other than the equipped mine clearing armor). I figured use the older stuff to support the mine clearing ops and use stuff like Brads for exploiting breakthroughs. Can't really take advantage of the optics and mobility crawling through an arty ravaged minefield. Idk Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By AROKIE: According to oryx Ukraine has lost 16 bradleys (15%) of the 109 supplied by the US. I sure hope they learned some lessons this last week. They can't afford to keep losing them at that rate. I honestly didn't think they'd use much Western armor for breaching minefields (other than the equipped mine clearing armor). I figured use the older stuff to support the mine clearing ops and use stuff like Brads for exploiting breakthroughs. Can't really take advantage of the optics and mobility crawling through an arty ravaged minefield. Idk Western vehicles are much more mine resistant. If the western vehicles hit a mine they will be disabled and the crew gets out. With the Russian equipment, they all die. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:15:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: Hollywood (other than that Baldwin guy) must use real bullets all the time then. I might be wrong, but still seems off to me. I'm going with staged too, not dirt, no dust. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:18:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I think him, Tucker, and a few others have done severe damage to the American psyche. Once all their lies get blown up along with the Russian invaders the poor stupid Americans that believed them will suffer yet another huge trust shattering blow and may actually lose their minds for good. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By MarkNH: Macgregor needs to swing from a tree before this is over. I think him, Tucker, and a few others have done severe damage to the American psyche. Once all their lies get blown up along with the Russian invaders the poor stupid Americans that believed them will suffer yet another huge trust shattering blow and may actually lose their minds for good. The people that listen and absorb that garbage are well last the point of critical thinking and logic. “Proving” reality would cause them to just simply say it’s another conspiracy. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:19:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: I'm going with staged too, not dirt, no dust. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By SoCalExile: Hollywood (other than that Baldwin guy) must use real bullets all the time then. I might be wrong, but still seems off to me. I'm going with staged too, not dirt, no dust. Chances are good it’s real….Russian soldiers themselves say it’s happening quite often. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:20:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Video claims to show Russian blocking forces killing fleeing Russian troops. Group buy their amunition for them? |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:21:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1668184236317179904 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyaUP6TWYAMr14y?format=jpg&name=small
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1668184236317179904 If Ukraine manages to liberate Staromlynivka and surrounding areas, which I think it is the short term goal in this phase, the possible HIMARS range complicates the Russian logistics very much https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyaUP6TWYAMr14y?format=jpg&name=small
They need to capture a good bit more. They aren’t going to risk HIMARS that close to the front. They would need a stand-off distance to protect against drone/Arty/CAS. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:24:11 AM EST
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:25:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4xGM300m]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Chances are good it’s real….Russian soldiers themselves say it’s happening quite often. Don't get me wrong, I'm totally fine with this, dead Orcs can't kill or rape anymore. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:27:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Ouch.
 
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:29:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Evil_Chaos: Don't we have a few Sturgeon Class mothballed somewhere? We could donate or lend those to a Navy that doesn't exist. You know, the one tthat has sunk 18 Russky ships. The only conventional sub that has been in reserve in recent times is the Dolphin, which was an auxiliary sub and only had one torpedo tube. She may have been scrapped by now. Sturgeon class is long gone. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:31:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2A373: @RockNwood Here is the first 80 JDAM test pass with the B-2 using inert early versions of the GBU-38.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdzJWciha4AImpressive. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:39:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: They need to capture a good bit more. They aren’t going to risk HIMARS that close to the front. They would need a stand-off distance to protect against drone/Arty/CAS. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1668184236317179904 If Ukraine manages to liberate Staromlynivka and surrounding areas, which I think it is the short term goal in this phase, the possible HIMARS range complicates the Russian logistics very much https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyaUP6TWYAMr14y?format=jpg&name=small
They need to capture a good bit more. They aren’t going to risk HIMARS that close to the front. They would need a stand-off distance to protect against drone/Arty/CAS. Well, we have seen evidence of HIMARS driven literally up the front at other places in the past year under cover of darkness to do a fire mission on important Russian logistics or command and control areas. I would not put it past them if they feel safe enough to do this again. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:40:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Chances are good it's real .Russian soldiers themselves say it's happening quite often. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By SoCalExile: Hollywood (other than that Baldwin guy) must use real bullets all the time then. I might be wrong, but still seems off to me. I'm going with staged too, not dirt, no dust. Chances are good it's real .Russian soldiers themselves say it's happening quite often. I'm just not jumping on the bandwagon on this one until more info comes out. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:42:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Like what good does that do! Typical communist way to fight ... Probably 99% of the regular RU wants to retreat. If they let the first few go, it would start a flood. For forcing unmotivated, poorly trained conscripts to fight, there is probably no other way. But it IS pathological and should be a clear indication that their "cause" is all FUBAR. I just hope the sick fuckers that are running this shit show get the same treatment soon. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:45:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Lots of 4th Gen fighters and aircraft is my bet. A lot of F16 and all those F/A-18 from Australia is my bet. I’ll take a guess and say over 100 4th Gen (60+ F-16 & 41 F/A-18 at minimum) will get promised this week. That’s the big news. Or maybe Taylor Swift is holding a concert in Kiev... |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:46:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Wait for the strikes, long line of Russian armor getting hit.
Great background music, Hugo's 99 Problems and the bitch ain't one. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:50:00 AM EST
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Dmitry Mishov, Russian airman who defected, gives BBC interview
A military defector who fled Russia on foot has given a rare interview to the BBC, in which he paints a picture of an army suffering heavy losses and experiencing low morale. Lieutenant Dmitry Mishov, a 26-year-old airman, handed himself into the Lithuanian authorities, seeking political asylum. Dmitry said escaping from Russia in such dramatic fashion, with a small rucksack on his back, was his last resort. He is among a small handful of known cases of serving military officers fleeing the country to avoid being sent to Ukraine to fight - and the only case of a serving airman that the BBC knows of. ....... Overwhelming and common, according to Mishov, is unhappiness with low salaries. He says experienced air force officers are still paid their pre-war contract salary of up to 90,000 roubles (£865, $1090). This is while new recruits are being tempted into the army with 204,000 roubles (£1960, $2465) as part of an official and publicly advertised campaign. Dmitry says that while attitudes towards Ukraine may vary, no one in the army believes official reports about things going well at the front or about low casualties. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65867990 |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:55:47 AM EST
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Guys.
Drones from Taiwan, South Korea, Philippines, Japan. there are such??? |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:01:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyaT2wiXwAIcshe?format=png&name=small Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyaT2wiXwAIcshe?format=png&name=small Whatever it is can carry multiple PG-7 warheads. That's a big upgrade from the modified RKG-3 AT grenades they used early in the war. I wonder if that last one was a T-90M since they gave it a triple treatment. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:02:39 AM EST
[#36]
Whats with the lack of Ukraine threads in GD over the past few days? Seems oddly quiet.
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:02:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: They are saying if true, those would most likely be Russian troops fleeing into the Chechen barrier troops, since for many months the Russian forces have complained about that sort of setup. There are guys trying to geolocate where this was filmed to give more clues. I look forward to seeing videos of RU troops shooting the barrier troops. It's bound to be happening. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:08:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
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🌐 Place: #Mala_Tokmachka
🗓 Date: 08.06.2023 🇺🇦 Unit: 47 OMBr 📌 Geolocation: 47.501246, 35.853797 📂 Description: Column battle on a minefield and evacuation of the crew. South of the village of Mala Tokmachka, Zaporizhzhia region. ❗️ Source You've probably seen pictures of blown-up Bradleys, one of them is mine, alas. Below is a short video of how the crew evacuated. I'm really asking for your help, because almost all of the boys' things remained in the car😕 Details for help here 👇 https://quicknote.io/58006e50-08ff-11ee-8f54-c5926da88c77 https://t.me/WarArchive_ua/1771 Video
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:11:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Artillery crew Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By QUACK32: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Those dudes had no rifles/guns.  Artillery crew |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:15:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: ServusVeritatis]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Or maybe Taylor Swift is holding a concert in Kiev... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By kncook: Lots of 4th Gen fighters and aircraft is my bet. A lot of F16 and all those F/A-18 from Australia is my bet. I’ll take a guess and say over 100 4th Gen (60+ F-16 & 41 F/A-18 at minimum) will get promised this week. That’s the big news. Or maybe Taylor Swift is holding a concert in Kiev... If that’s the case then teengirl ticket sales would fund the next 2 billion package to them. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:18:13 AM EST
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I don't remember if this got posted this weekend or not.
20 min vid from 3rd Assault on a trenchline attack. We've seen snippets of it already. The battle on GoPro: how the Third Assault Brigade defeated the russian 72nd brigade near Bakhmut  ??? ? GoPro: ?? ????? ???????? ??????? 72-?? ??????? ?? ??? ???????? |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:19:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tuco22: Whats with the lack of Ukraine threads in GD over the past few days? Seems oddly quiet. Oh I’m bumping the “Ukraine offensive is in reverse” thread if that counts lol. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:20:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: Hollywood (other than that Baldwin guy) must use real bullets all the time then. I might be wrong, but still seems off to me. No dust because it rained yesterday. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:23:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: ServusVeritatis]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CletusRoundbelly: No dust because it rained yesterday. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CletusRoundbelly: Originally Posted By SoCalExile: Hollywood (other than that Baldwin guy) must use real bullets all the time then. I might be wrong, but still seems off to me. No dust because it rained yesterday. That’s what I always find funny. I shoot guns in GA. Unless it’s drought conditions and dry dirt you aren’t seeing “puffs of dust” in a thick grassy, moist soil field. Seeing exaggerated “dust kick-up” from .21 cal rifles is more “Hollywood” than not. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:25:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Oh I’m bumping the “Ukraine offensive is in reverse” thread if that counts lol.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:29:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
[#46]
POV Assault on a Russian trench.
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1668255385629650945
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:32:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Probably 99% of the regular RU wants to retreat. If they let the first few go, it would start a flood. For forcing unmotivated, poorly trained conscripts to fight, there is probably no other way. But it IS pathological and should be a clear indication that their "cause" is all FUBAR. I just hope the sick fuckers that are running this shit show get the same treatment soon. It's nothing new. The russian army forces their conscripts to stay put by shooting them if they retreat. Russia has been doing this for a long time. It's what they do instead of spending the time and money in training their soldiers into being disciplined. It's cheap. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:34:22 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:34:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fund_GARISSON: Guys. Drones from Taiwan, South Korea, Philippines, Japan. there are such??? Main company page, perhaps you could contact them and make a request? They sent drones to Ukraine before. https://dronesvision.com/ From Taiwan, drone model Revolver 860 which was sent to Ukraine. https://dronesvision.com/mortar-revolver-bomber-drone/ |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:36:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLurker: They've probably been going at it for a week by now. Likely time to regroup, re-arm, refuel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLurker: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Wtf... those are not good numbers. They've probably been going at it for a week by now. Likely time to regroup, re-arm, refuel. Not to mention, we don't know the inside scoop on reporting processes. Is there a stack of kills that were made, but haven't been confirmed or approved for release for some reason? My take is that these daily reports have more value for building weekly averages than fine details. |
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