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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:38:00 AM EST
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:38:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: It's nothing new. The russian army forces their conscripts to stay put by shooting them if they retreat. Russia has been doing this for a long time. It's what they do instead of spending the time and money in training their soldiers into being disciplined. It's cheap. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Probably 99% of the regular RU wants to retreat. If they let the first few go, it would start a flood. For forcing unmotivated, poorly trained conscripts to fight, there is probably no other way. But it IS pathological and should be a clear indication that their "cause" is all FUBAR. I just hope the sick fuckers that are running this shit show get the same treatment soon. It's nothing new. The russian army forces their conscripts to stay put by shooting them if they retreat. Russia has been doing this for a long time. It's what they do instead of spending the time and money in training their soldiers into being disciplined. It's cheap. They oughta target the blocking troops so the others can successfully flee. Panic is infectious, after all. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:41:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Tuco22:
Whats with the lack of Ukraine threads in GD over the past few days? Seems oddly quiet.  [/quote]I think that's for the better. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:44:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: GBTX01]
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:49:03 AM EST
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Saw this yesterday and it may have even been posted, but since it's Dugin who said it...
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:52:17 AM EST
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:53:33 AM EST
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How many ground forces do the Ukrainians have?
Theres is: Army National Guard Marines Border Guards VDV (which I think is an independent organisation) Who all operate at least brigade sized formations. Is the Army/National Guard divide similar to in the US? What is the rational for this divide? Is it just a holdover from the Soviet Union? |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:54:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Saw this yesterday and it may have even been posted, but since it's Dugin who said it... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyanBqkXwAI9EeI?format=png&name=900x900
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:58:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryIt's never safe. They should go back to russia. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:00:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Saw this yesterday and it may have even been posted, but since it's Dugin who said it... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyanBqkXwAI9EeI?format=png&name=900x900
“We should just take Kyiv and stop this….there must be some sort of plan, right?” 
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:00:50 AM EST
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The guys from the 88th battalion of the 35th OBrMP shared a video of repelling an enemy counterattack on Storozheve
Katsaps in the amount of 4 cars broke through to the village, where they were completely destroyed. In the video, you can see the impact of the BMP and the already damaged T-80 BV. Marines also took prisoners. Pay attention to the beginning of the video, where "Ruzkies do not abandon their friends." The events took place two days ago.
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:03:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Schmigs: How many ground forces do the Ukrainians have? Theres is: Army National Guard Marines Border Guards VDV (which I think is an independent organisation) Who all operate at least brigade sized formations. Is the Army/National Guard divide similar to in the US? What is the rational for this divide? Is it just a holdover from the Soviet Union? VDV is Russian airborne. As a unit their most effective action was providing hilarious meme material. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:05:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Schmigs: How many ground forces do the Ukrainians have? Theres is: Army National Guard Marines Border Guards VDV (which I think is an independent organisation) Who all operate at least brigade sized formations. Is the Army/National Guard divide similar to in the US? What is the rational for this divide? Is it just a holdover from the Soviet Union? The TDF is kind of like our national guard. I would love to see a break down of all of this |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:07:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tuco22: Whats with the lack of Ukraine threads in GD over the past few days? Seems oddly quiet. I think the cyber attacks are having an impact. Many bots aren't working and the actual semi-human russian assets aren't getting their marching orders electronically. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:12:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: "We should just take Kyiv and stop this .there must be some sort of plan, right?"  That's literal Hitler in the bunker type stuff. "When Steiner makes his attack everything will be alright." |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:20:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: yekimak]
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This chick is bad ass...
I don't have alot of context as this channel does not give me translations but damn. Eta: Different link in case first one is a private channel. "The Galician platoon of the 1st company of the 2nd assault battalion is working" |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:21:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Schmigs: How many ground forces do the Ukrainians have? Theres is: Army National Guard Marines Border Guards VDV (which I think is an independent organisation) Who all operate at least brigade sized formations. Is the Army/National Guard divide similar to in the US? What is the rational for this divide? Is it just a holdover from the Soviet Union? It's complicated. The Ground Forces are under the Ministry of Defense while the NG and BG are under the Ministry of Internal Affairs...unless Martial Law is declared then they are subordinate to the Army. The Marines were Under the Navy (Naval Infantry) until last month when they became part of the Ground Forces. The VDV and TDF are separate parts of the AFU. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:31:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Or maybe Taylor Swift is holding a concert in Kiev... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By kncook: Lots of 4th Gen fighters and aircraft is my bet. A lot of F16 and all those F/A-18 from Australia is my bet. I’ll take a guess and say over 100 4th Gen (60+ F-16 & 41 F/A-18 at minimum) will get promised this week. That’s the big news. Or maybe Taylor Swift is holding a concert in Kiev... I was ridin' shotgun with my hair undone In the front seat of his BTR He's got a one-hand feel on the steering wheel The other on my AR I look around, turn the coms down He says, "Babushka, is something hard?" I say, "Nothing, I was just thinkin' how we don't have a Gephard" |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:33:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tuco22: Whats with the lack of Ukraine threads in GD over the past few days? Seems oddly quiet. They must have run out of Copium, and it has become very difficult to spin the current situation as”Ukraine is losing!”. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:33:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:33:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: It will be hard to tell, but those don't look like warning shots. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fya929WXwAYJI5d?format=jpg&name=360x360 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By SoCalExile: Originally Posted By yekimak: Retreating troops getting shot by a blockade squad. Twitter link. Video seems off. No dust kicking up from the missed shots is one problem. Waiting on more info. It will be hard to tell, but those don't look like warning shots. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fya929WXwAYJI5d?format=jpg&name=360x360 Should have shot first, as soon as the "barrier" squad showed themselves. When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:33:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tuco22: Whats with the lack of Ukraine threads in GD over the past few days? Seems oddly quiet. They must have run out of Copium, and it has become very difficult to spin the current situation as”Ukraine is losing!”. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:37:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:39:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: WOW! Fucking Russians. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By yekimak: Retreating troops getting shot by a blockade squad. WOW! Fucking Russians. so they ran out and whacked their own dudes? |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:41:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyVwTjSX0AET2V3?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FySiNN2agAAmDbn?format=jpg&name=large
Gotta have that drip pan! |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:42:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyVwTjSX0AET2V3?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FySiNN2agAAmDbn?format=jpg&name=large
Highly maneuverable & well protected APC/IFV with a big gun? |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:43:43 AM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
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"Following a specific request from Ukraine, Denmark sends 2000 artillery shells, worth 250.000 DK ($36 million)."
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1668281230910009347 |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:46:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:52:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: so they ran out and whacked their own dudes? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By yekimak: Retreating troops getting shot by a blockade squad. WOW! Fucking Russians. so they ran out and whacked their own dudes? Not sure why it’s surprising. Russian troops say it happens often. Chechens and Wagner say they do it. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:54:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: Mal_means_bad]
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"It takes a brave man to be a coward in the Red Army"
-Stalin or Zhukov, not sure which |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:54:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyVwTjSX0AET2V3?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FySiNN2agAAmDbn?format=jpg&name=large
Besides something I'd like to have in my garage, what am I looking at here? I've been told repeatedly that the 105 is useless in modern combat. 
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:55:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Got himself a trophy Mosin at the end. Irons only, not a sniper. I’ll give him $69.99 for it! |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:03:01 AM EST
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https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1668247319014244353
The ATESH partisans network asks all its affiliate to sabotage all piece of Russian equipment in the Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia area "Attention all agents, the time has come. We turn to the maximum sabotage of orders and damage to equipment in parking lots and repair bases. We do everything as we taught earlier: we pour sand and sugar into the fuel tank and the neck of the gearbox of armored vehicles. Priority: Zaporozhzhia and Donetsk area. But if you spoil something in the Crimea, we will not condemn you;) We duplicate the training video that was shown earlier. Example: Over the past month, we have done a good job in the field of sabotage. In the Zaporozhzhia region, the 429th motorized rifle regiment, which was located in the village of Lobkovoe village lost 3 armored personnel carriers and 2 BPMs. For some reason they broke. You yourself know what happened in Lobkove afterwards. We express our gratitude to the agents who had a hand in this. We do not stop, we spoil all the equipment that you can get to!" PS Lobkovoe was liberated last week |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:03:33 AM EST
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the Russian tank is toast. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:04:28 AM EST
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:10:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
"Welt" is as bad as "Bild". Same publisher and same agenda but not as vulgar as "Bild". (And no tits.)  |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:12:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
It is all ok and the Russians are losing ... |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:14:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LesBaer45: Besides something I'd like to have in my garage, what am I looking at here? I've been told repeatedly that the 105 is useless in modern combat. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LesBaer45: Originally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyVwTjSX0AET2V3?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FySiNN2agAAmDbn?format=jpg&name=large
Besides something I'd like to have in my garage, what am I looking at here? I've been told repeatedly that the 105 is useless in modern combat. 105 sucks for a MBT. That’s a big gun for an IFV/APC. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:19:20 AM EST
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:22:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Probably 99% of the regular RU wants to retreat. If they let the first few go, it would start a flood. For forcing unmotivated, poorly trained conscripts to fight, there is probably no other way. But it IS pathological and should be a clear indication that their "cause" is all FUBAR. I just hope the sick fuckers that are running this shit show get the same treatment soon. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By thehun06: Like what good does that do! Typical communist way to fight ... Probably 99% of the regular RU wants to retreat. If they let the first few go, it would start a flood. For forcing unmotivated, poorly trained conscripts to fight, there is probably no other way. But it IS pathological and should be a clear indication that their "cause" is all FUBAR. I just hope the sick fuckers that are running this shit show get the same treatment soon. The correct action for Russian mobiks is to discard arms and run forward with arms in the air, waving a white cloth, until they find friendly (Ukrainian) positions. There is no hope for them in running to their rear. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:24:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
Galicians? Spanish Galicans? or is there a different Galicia? either way dudes are bad ass. took some kind of hit to the arm, threw on a tourniquet and kept on going. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:29:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2A373: @RockNwood Here is the first 80 JDAM test pass with the B-2 using inert early versions of the GBU-38.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdzJWciha4AQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2A373: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By 2A373: Originally Posted By KELBEAST: Originally Posted By 2A373: The B-2 laughs at those tiny anti-ship missiles. GBU-57 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/GBU-57_B-2_jpg-2848546.JPG Jesus if that hit a Russian ship at the pier it would punch straight through the whole thing and finally come to a stop in the ocean bed underneath and then blow up under the keel like a torpedo We have bombs that can detonate under a ship's keel like a torpedo. QUICKSINK That variation of the JDAM is amazing. That hit would be 100% fatalities. Nobody is getting off a ship alive when hit with that. Practically all fighters can carry it. Up to 15 mile range. I found this statement interesting while looking up its specs: JDAM performance has been demonstrated in operationally representative tests including drops through clouds, rain and snow. These tests included a B-2 releasing 80 JDAMs on a single pass against multiple targets. 80 JDAMS in one pass. Wow! @RockNwood Here is the first 80 JDAM test pass with the B-2 using inert early versions of the GBU-38. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdzJWciha4AAwesome! That video went well with my morning coffee! Now do a Black Sea port!! |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:29:38 AM EST
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:34:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: VDV is Russian airborne. As a unit their most effective action was providing hilarious meme material. VDV (Vysokomobil'ni Desantni Viyska) = Ukrainian Airmobile Forces VDV (Vozdushno-desantnye Voyska) = Russian Airborne Forces. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:34:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: "Welt" is as bad as "Bild". Same publisher and same agenda but not as vulgar as "Bild". (And no tits.) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
"Welt" is as bad as "Bild". Same publisher and same agenda but not as vulgar as "Bild". (And no tits.) lol, that helps to put some context to the story. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:35:42 AM EST
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If chuck is reporting it you know others already did the work… so here it is. Been going around the last couple of hours:
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:36:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Like what good does that do! Typical communist way to fight ... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By yekimak: Retreating troops getting shot by a blockade squad. Like what good does that do! Typical communist way to fight ... Executions will stop when morale improves! |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:37:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: I was ridin' shotgun with my hair undone In the front seat of his BTR He's got a one-hand feel on the steering wheel The other on my AR I look around, turn the coms down He says, "Babushka, is something hard?" I say, "Nothing, I was just thinkin' how we don't have a Gephard" 
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:40:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: AZ_Mike]
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Accidental double post removed
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:41:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: Hollywood (other than that Baldwin guy) must use real bullets all the time then. I might be wrong, but still seems off to me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By SoCalExile: Originally Posted By yekimak: Retreating troops getting shot by a blockade squad. Twitter link. Video seems off. No dust kicking up from the missed shots is one problem. Waiting on more info. It will be hard to tell, but those don't look like warning shots. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fya929WXwAYJI5d?format=jpg&name=360x360 I might be wrong, but still seems off to me. Why would they fake it? Blocking units have been part of Soviet/Russia army doctrine probably even Tsarist Russia forever. So have penal battalions. No need to fake it, both sides are well aware of their use. |
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