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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:41:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rgkeller: A huge problem for Ukraine is all the weak willed cowardly Western leaders who are terrified that a weakened and cornered Putin will unleash his nukes. I suspect they will put severe pressure on Zelinsky to give Putin enough to allow him to claim victory. What a crime if they do. The B.O.B's agree... Weakness is a virtue (Bushies/Obama/Bidensky) Three presidents who hated their country more than the enemy. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:41:55 AM EST
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:42:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryRussia government, go fuck yourself. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:42:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: From what I'm reading (and been posting) it looks like that part of Moldova is joining the fight WITH Russia. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: Originally Posted By Rumrunner358: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/BB62A335-7580-4073-AEDF-81A5B7319598_jpe-2303281.JPG Open another front! on the far side of enemy territory! GENIUS!!! From what I'm reading (and been posting) it looks like that part of Moldova is joining the fight WITH Russia. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:42:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pr24guy: V is from Bellerose currently, I believe. It took me a while |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:42:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Got hit by 7 cruise missiles, that's a lot. Why so important? Maybe it was there drone base? |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:44:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: Does Moldova even have much equiment? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: Originally Posted By burnka871: Lol with what Does Moldova even have much equiment? >~5k Russian forces + separatists vs ~7k Moldovan forces. High Romanian ethnic ties. Might draw Romania into the fight. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:44:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Schmigs:
This is a long thread with lots of interesting conclusions. Well worth a read. Some highlights Condensed into a single thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1500301348780199937.html |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:44:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: From what I’m reading (and been posting) it looks like that part of Moldova is joining the fight WITH Russia. According to wiki ARFCOM could put up a more formidable army |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:46:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankiebagadonuts: Maybe it was there drone base? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankiebagadonuts: Originally Posted By SheltiePimp: Got hit by 7 cruise missiles, that's a lot. Why so important? Maybe it was there drone base? If the Moldova situation is true, it prevents future basing from whatever is left of the Ukrainian Air Force and/or NATO intervention forces (looking at it from Rooskie POV). |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:47:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vern1968: I guess I have a hard time believing the Russian military is this weak. Maybe Putin is getting rid of all his old equipment and personnel he may have to pay retirement money to. This thing will end right on time to make Biden look like a damn hero and keep the ball rolling to ruin America. Either Russia is that weak or this is all a planned out act of horror in a big world play. No way Ukraine survives this. Biden's first call was to make sure all the evidence was destroyed, after that, maybe he and his rich bastards actually running things can pick up some sweet deals from "The big Oligarch Black Friday sale". Great deals on yachts, football clubs, deluxe properties, and sport jump suit collections. Six words turned this around. "I need ammunition, not a ride." |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:48:11 AM EST
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:48:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: BerettaGuy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/BB62A335-7580-4073-AEDF-81A5B7319598_jpe-2303281.JPG I stated a month ago that this was an area to watch along with SW Ukraine with Ruthenian identity populations and even areas of high Hungarian populations and gave some history. I won't get into this in detail/history now but in 2014, the Kremlin began funding groups in Ukraine who had strong identities (think of southerners in the US) to get them to break away. I don't think the Hungarian groups who are high populated along the border (they even have street signs in Hungarian and the Hungarian population get money from Hungary to elect Hungarians in govt.) will be an issue due to recent events but other areas could be. My family are "Boykos" or Highlanders near the Carpathians and the other two groups there are Hutsuls and Lemkos (Christopher Walken played a Lemko in the move The Deer Hunter). They are very Ukrainian but you never know what the Kremlin could stir up. Kremlin backed Yanukovich (Paul Manafort was his campaign "manager") was in the Party of Regions which was founded on focusing on the unique qualities of groups from each oblast or region for the purpose of breaking Ukraine up in Putin's Plan A. Transnistria is a made up land that Ukraine should have wiped out long ago. Any conflict here and Moldova will have to get involved and then there is a chance that Romania could get dragged in. Very strategic position for still communist Putin. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:49:25 AM EST
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:49:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brok3n: Most definitely, but to launch another failed invasion is something else. I thought the only people capable of doubling down on hubris in the face of facts were Democrat voters  Indeed ! 
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:50:35 AM EST
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 Hear CNN reporter's questions for Russia after seeing bombed homes |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:51:11 AM EST
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There are currently no Russian troops in Meldova itself.
If there isn’t a no-fly zone in Moldova by the end of today then NATO doesn’t exist. They can get ahead of a Russian invasion by declaring it first if Moldova wants it. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:51:33 AM EST
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Moldova should attack Transnistria first.
Might as well. Have Ukraine support the attack. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:51:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brok3n: If the Moldova situation is true, it prevents future basing from whatever is left of the Ukrainian Air Force and/or NATO intervention forces (looking at it from Rooskie POV). Good point. Those jets from Poland won't do them any good, if they have no place to land them. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:52:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: Cincinnatus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: There are currently no Russian troops in Meldova itself. If there isn’t a no-fly zone in Moldova by the end of today then NATO doesn’t exist. They can get ahead of a Russian invasion by declaring it first if Moldova wants it. Great minds! I believe there’s at least a Russian brigade in Transnistria. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:52:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: According to wiki ARFCOM could put up a more formidable army By some accounts, ARFCOM is the 10 largest sitting army. Lets face is... Few (if any) of us are on the front line when we are posting. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:53:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: Yeah but checking if we have anyone up to date with current events here that can confirm those internal issues in Moldova. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: Originally Posted By Nailcrusher: Originally Posted By thesilvercord: Anyone confirm this?
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/92DA0F3C-9011-4B6A-9C05-6167A177B312_jpe-2303289.JPG
Doesn’t that appear to be what Rubio was alluding to in his tweet you posted earlier? Yeah but checking if we have anyone up to date with current events here that can confirm those internal issues in Moldova. Can confirm |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:53:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: I stated a month ago that this was an area to watch along with SW Ukraine with Ruthenian identity populations and even areas of high Hungarian populations and gave some history. I won't get into this in detail/history now but in 2014, the Kremlin began funding groups in Ukraine who had strong identities (think of southerners in the US) to get them break away. I don't think the Hungarian groups who are high populated along the border (they even have street signs in Hungarian and the Hungarian population get money from Hungary to elect Hungarians in govt.) will be an issue due to recent events but other areas could be. My family are "Boykos" or Highlanders near the Carpathians and the other two groups there are Hutsuls and Lemkos (Christopher Walken played a Lemko in the move The Deer Hunter). They are very Ukrainian but you never know what the Kremlin could stir up. Kremlin backed Yanukovich (Paul Manafort was his campaign "manager") was in the Party of Regions which was founded on focusing on the unique qualities of groups from each oblast or region for the purpose of breaking Ukraine up in Putin's Plan A. Transnistria is a made up land that Ukraine should have wiped out long ago. Any conflict here and Moldova will have to get involved and then there is a chance that Romania could get dragged in. Very strategic position for still communist Putin. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/BB62A335-7580-4073-AEDF-81A5B7319598_jpe-2303281.JPG I stated a month ago that this was an area to watch along with SW Ukraine with Ruthenian identity populations and even areas of high Hungarian populations and gave some history. I won't get into this in detail/history now but in 2014, the Kremlin began funding groups in Ukraine who had strong identities (think of southerners in the US) to get them break away. I don't think the Hungarian groups who are high populated along the border (they even have street signs in Hungarian and the Hungarian population get money from Hungary to elect Hungarians in govt.) will be an issue due to recent events but other areas could be. My family are "Boykos" or Highlanders near the Carpathians and the other two groups there are Hutsuls and Lemkos (Christopher Walken played a Lemko in the move The Deer Hunter). They are very Ukrainian but you never know what the Kremlin could stir up. Kremlin backed Yanukovich (Paul Manafort was his campaign "manager") was in the Party of Regions which was founded on focusing on the unique qualities of groups from each oblast or region for the purpose of breaking Ukraine up in Putin's Plan A. Transnistria is a made up land that Ukraine should have wiped out long ago. Any conflict here and Moldova will have to get involved and then there is a chance that Romania could get dragged in. Very strategic position for still communist Putin. Maybe this is Pooty's way of telling NATO to back-off? |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:54:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankiebagadonuts: Good point. Those jets from Poland won't do them any good, if they have no place to land them. I thought they were saying they would be allowed to land/refuel/rearm in Poland? But i might be remembering it wrong. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:55:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RandyBroshankle: Today might be history worthy. Referring to UN getting involved (i.e. Moldova)? |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:55:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rockracer: Go back and research Hunter's laptop and why the Trump Impeachment was used to cover it up. The previous leaders of Ukraine ware laundering US aid money back to Obama, Biden, Putin and other crooked politicians through corrupt Ukraine energy company. Do you recall $5 mil paid to Hunter by a Russian madam? Trump got elected and headed towards energy independence. Zelensky got elected and began to cancel the corruption. Essentially cut Obama, Biden and Putin out. Biden steals election, reversed Trump policies, fuel prices rise. Now Putin needs to go in and install a new framework to get back to "normal" Perfect timing for Biden and Putin to make "peace" for the midterms and now the potato saves the world from destruction. Gas is $5/gal inflation is out of control but Dems are heros. It could be plausible that Russia helped steal the election for the Democrats and if this goes upside down they may expose it. These elitist don't care about anything but money and power. Don’t forget that right at the start of this, Biden tried to get Zelinsky to flee the country. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:55:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord:
Video  So much for being out of PGMs… |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:55:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: I have explained on here how the Russian military reforms went awry because of how many generals were no longer able to skim. This is why Shoygu,someone who the kleptogenerals could support,because Minister of Defense. The Russian army was never expected to have to fight a “near peer”. There is no telling what the actual troop and equipment strength of their armed forces may be because the books have been cooked harder than the Afghan army. Many need to understand that a major might only make $18000 per year -before ruble deflated- but would have much,much more than that to skim. Just keeping 2 soldiers on the books who don’t exist is an easy $1000 per month and nobody will ever notice them missing,this sort of thing, to say nothing of maintenance. How much oversight do you think a garrison in the Far East actually has over it? That is a good point |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:55:39 AM EST
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:56:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cincinnatus: Moldova should attack Transnistria first. Might as well. Have Ukraine support the attack. Yes exactly. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:57:25 AM EST
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This entire conflict has the West only reactive, instead of proactive. Everything is a counter move. I want to see something that forces Russia to make a reaction or show their hand. A lot about the real intentions of Putin along with his willingness to escalate can be figured out with a few moves by the West - mostly by our behavior forcing him to counter or not in Belarus or Moldova.
I am pretty convinced at this point that all the think tank people I used to know are even dumber than I thought, and I didn't think very much of them at the time. Fancy degrees from ivy league schools and unable to do anything but follow old doctrine and react and follow a pre-existing playbook. Anyone pulling an audible renders them useless. These are the people dictating our foreign policy and jumping back and forth between government and private. Only able to follow what they have been taught, not able to think on the fly. Our only saving grace is that this is very similar to how Chinese operate - very little creatively and nobody willing to throw out something outside the existing playbook. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:57:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nailcrusher: Joking aside when you see these videos of unarmed Ukrainians yelling at Russian troops it makes you realize that if that was occurring here those troops would be getting shot at from millions of well armed Americans. This is going to make a lot of folks wake up to why America has the 2nd Amendment. Nah, they'd probably be shouting ACAB, BLM, and all the other chants they know. MAGA people would simply go to prison. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:57:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cincinnatus: Moldova should attack Transnistria first. Might as well. Have Ukraine support the attack. That’s the spirit! |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:58:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: Putin has so much propaganda control, he can conjure up his own face saving off-ramp anytime he wants. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:58:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By madwis15: Don’t forget that right at the start of this, Biden tried to get Zelinsky to flee the country. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By madwis15: Originally Posted By Rockracer: Go back and research Hunter's laptop and why the Trump Impeachment was used to cover it up. The previous leaders of Ukraine ware laundering US aid money back to Obama, Biden, Putin and other crooked politicians through corrupt Ukraine energy company. Do you recall $5 mil paid to Hunter by a Russian madam? Trump got elected and headed towards energy independence. Zelensky got elected and began to cancel the corruption. Essentially cut Obama, Biden and Putin out. Biden steals election, reversed Trump policies, fuel prices rise. Now Putin needs to go in and install a new framework to get back to "normal" Perfect timing for Biden and Putin to make "peace" for the midterms and now the potato saves the world from destruction. Gas is $5/gal inflation is out of control but Dems are heros. It could be plausible that Russia helped steal the election for the Democrats and if this goes upside down they may expose it. These elitist don't care about anything but money and power. Don’t forget that right at the start of this, Biden tried to get Zelinsky to flee the country. The Bidens and Clintons (and Obama) are pro-Russia. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:59:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: BerettaGuy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord:
Ukrainians are tough, they don't need a hand out for jobs- not in their DNA. They love to work. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:01:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: Install the Telegram app, you’re missing some of the best pics and vids. The Russian losses are f’ing staggering and undeniable when you see the footage. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: Originally Posted By Country: Originally Posted By hondaciv: A man getting taped to a light post. Kharkov. This schmuck took grandma's food 🤬 Will be severely re-educated 👌 https://t.me/c/1736151536/1784 Can't open any of these links to see a damn thing... Do you got anything better? Install the Telegram app, you’re missing some of the best pics and vids. The Russian losses are f’ing staggering and undeniable when you see the footage. This! I resisted downloading more stuff but there is a ton of info there. FIGHT, Ukraine! 
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:01:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nailcrusher: Joking aside when you see these videos of unarmed Ukrainians yelling at Russian troops it makes you realize that if that was occurring here those troops would be getting shot at from millions of well armed Americans. This is going to make a lot of folks wake up to why America has the 2nd Amendment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nailcrusher: Originally Posted By Brok3n: Originally Posted By cryo_tech: Originally Posted By burnka871: Lol with what Does Moldova even have much equiment? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Forces_of_the_Republic_of_Moldova ARFCOM might be better equipped Joking aside when you see these videos of unarmed Ukrainians yelling at Russian troops it makes you realize that if that was occurring here those troops would be getting shot at from millions of well armed Americans. This is going to make a lot of folks wake up to why America has the 2nd Amendment. No it won’t, our .gov and agencies are just as corrupt they just don’t outright execute people in mass daily-but the overreaching control will get worse and worse-look at the ATF today. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:02:03 AM EST
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:03:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
I wonder how long the police will continue to jack boot when they stop getting paid and start running out of food at home? |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:03:43 AM EST
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I had a dream last night. The most vivid part of it was four spires of the Kremlin with smoke billowing from them. It was…..odd.
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:03:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walleyeguy24: This entire conflict has the West only reactive, instead of proactive. Everything is a counter move. I want to see something that forces Russia to make a reaction or show their hand. A lot about the real intentions of Putin along with his willingness to escalate can be figured out with a few moves by the West - mostly by our behavior forcing him to counter or not in Belarus or Moldova. I am pretty convinced at this point that all the think tank people I used to know are even dumber than I thought, and I didn't think very much of them at the time. Fancy degrees from ivy league schools and unable to do anything but follow old doctrine and react and follow a pre-existing playbook. Anyone pulling an audible renders them useless. These are the people dictating our foreign policy and jumping back and forth between government and private. Only able to follow what they have been taught, not able to think on the fly. Our only saving grace is that this is very similar to how Chinese operate - very little creatively and nobody willing to throw out something outside the existing playbook. Just look at all the generals on Fox and other networks who were dead wrong about how this would play out. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:06:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: The aircraft? or the missile? If the aircraft is slow and low enough, yea you can kill it with .30 and .50 cal plus the autocannons on light armored vehicles. No sense in wasting an expensive man portable or dedicated SAM to kill them especially if they are unmanned and known to be bait. Also, since they might be remotely controlled, you can just jam the signal so they lose control of their aircraft without firing a shot. Even as bait drones they can still fill them with explosives and give them a destination. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:06:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By madwis15: Don’t forget that right at the start of this, Biden tried to get Zelinsky to flee the country. Would not surprise me if biden is letting this happen because his 10% got cut |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:07:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walleyeguy24: Russia government, go fuck yourself. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walleyeguy24: Russia government, go fuck yourself. I replied to it and told them to take notice of this.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:07:54 AM EST
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:08:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: The Bidens and Clintons (and Obama) are pro-Russia. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By madwis15: Originally Posted By Rockracer: Go back and research Hunter's laptop and why the Trump Impeachment was used to cover it up. The previous leaders of Ukraine ware laundering US aid money back to Obama, Biden, Putin and other crooked politicians through corrupt Ukraine energy company. Do you recall $5 mil paid to Hunter by a Russian madam? Trump got elected and headed towards energy independence. Zelensky got elected and began to cancel the corruption. Essentially cut Obama, Biden and Putin out. Biden steals election, reversed Trump policies, fuel prices rise. Now Putin needs to go in and install a new framework to get back to "normal" Perfect timing for Biden and Putin to make "peace" for the midterms and now the potato saves the world from destruction. Gas is $5/gal inflation is out of control but Dems are heros. It could be plausible that Russia helped steal the election for the Democrats and if this goes upside down they may expose it. These elitist don't care about anything but money and power. Don't forget that right at the start of this, Biden tried to get Zelinsky to flee the country. The Bidens and Clintons (and Obama) are pro-Russia. They cancelled our energy independence programs, (pipelines and drilling permits) in the disguise of global warming bullshit.... so they could purchase the same amount of oil from russia and are currently not planning on implementing oil sanctions. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:08:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades: I wonder how long the police will continue to jack boot when they stop getting paid and start running out of food at home? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By Chokey:
I wonder how long the police will continue to jack boot when they stop getting paid and start running out of food at home? Or people start to donate full vodka bottles and bits of cloth to their houses/apartments out of the goodness of their hearts...................... 
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:09:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brok3n: Pooty really has lost his g'damn mind. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brok3n: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
Pooty really has lost his g'damn mind. He's already in Transnistria according to the maps that have been posted. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:09:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Just look at all the generals on Fox and other networks who were dead wrong about how this would play out. Exactly my point. I've seen this play out in person previously - and I can only assume it has gotten even worse over the last 15 years. Education does not equal intellectual ability. These people are basically programmed robots. I'm not THAT smart. I can get these leaders and people to freeze up so easily. ANYTHING that hasn't been pre-gamed turns them to mush. They haven't been taught to think and make decisions. They have been taught how to memorize existing information. |
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