Posted: 1/13/2003 6:52:21 PM EDT
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Thoughts on our President First, an observation. Have you noticed a difference in the salute given by our military men and women as President Bush walks by? Most folks would not notice anything, but those of us who have served in the military see it right away. Next time, Watch: When President Bush leaves his helicopter or Air Force One, the honor guards salute and face him as he disembarks, then turn their faces towards him as he passes by. They continue to salute his back as he walks away. This kind of salute has not been seen in the previous eight years, though it is customary courtesy to the Commander-in-Chief. You see, soldiers aren't required to turn and face the President as they salute. They are not required to salute his back. They are only required to salute. They can remain face-forward the entire time. And that is what they did during the previous administration. Our soldiers were forced to obey his orders, but they were not forced to respect him. >From their salutes, we can surmise that they did not. Why is such respect afforded to President Bush? He doesn't even know how to bite his lower lip and not get teary-eyed whenever he speaks! The following incident from Major General Van Antwerp may give us an insight. Gen. Antwerp is president of the Officers' Christian Fellowship. He lost nearly all his staff when the Pentagon was attacked Sept. 11. His executive officer LTC Brian Birdwell was badly burned and in the hospital when President Bush visited him. Our President spent time and prayed with Brian. As he was getting ready to leave, he went to the foot of Brian's bed and saluted. He held his salute until Brian was able to raise his burned and bandaged arm, ever so slowly, in return. The Commander-in-Chief almost never initiates a salute, except in the case of a Congressional Medal of Honor winner. The injured soldier did not have to return the salute. But he did, out of respect to his President ...-a Soldiers' President. Congressman JC Watts (R. Oklahoma) said, "Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking," (My favorite quote of all time.) The nation and world learned some of what our last President did when nobody was looking. That President has been disbarred. the worst disgrace (other than imprisonment) to a lawyer. CNN will have a difficult time shining his or his wife's tarnished images. In this time of war and danger, I am so grateful to have a President whom the soldiers salute -- fully. On Special Report with Brit Hume, at the close of the show when they normally have some funny video clip, they showed President Bush and the First Lady on their way to Maine to leave for Camp David for the weekend. As the video starts, the First Lady is leading the way into the helicopter with the spaniel dog on the leash, and the president is right behind her with the Scotty on the leash. As the First Lady entered the chopper, the Marine at the gangway saluted and held his salute. The Scottie the president was walking decided it wanted to sit right when he got to the steps. The president pulled on its leash, but the stubborn Scottie persisted in sitting. The president bent down and scooped up the pooch and entered Marine One. After he entered, the Marine cut his salute and returned to the position of attention. Moments later the President reemerged ! from the helicopter and out onto the steps. The Marine was standing at attention, head and eyes straight ahead. The President leaned over and tapped him on the left arm. The startled Marine turned his body toward the President and received his returned salute! I was so impressed by this true act of respect for our military people by our President! He really does get it. Most any other person of his stature would have just continued his journey, disregarding the neglected return salute. Not George W. Bush. He is earning the respect of the military community, not expecting it -- as most have and would. President George W. Bush. The man who admitted to having a drinking problem in younger years, and whose happy-go-lucky lifestyle led him to mediocre grades in college and an ill-fated oil venture. Who mangled syntax, and whose speaking mis-steps became known as "Bushisms." He came within a hair's breadth of losing the election in November. Bush named Jesus Christ as Lord of his life on public TV. Not an Oblique reference to being "born-again" or having a "life change." He actually said the un-PC-like phrase, "Jesus Christ!" On September 11, he was thrust into a position only known by the likes of Roosevelt, Churchill, Lincoln, and Washington. The weight of the world was on his shoulders, and the responsibility of a generation was on his soul. So President George W. Bush walked to his seat at the front of the National Cathedral just three days after two of the most impressive symbols of American capitalism and prosperity virtually evaporated. When the history of this time is written, it will be acknowledged by friend and foe alike that President George W. Bush came of age in that cathedral and lifted a nation off its knees. In what was one of the most impressive exhibitions of self-control in presidential history, President George W. Bush was able to deliver his remarks without losing his resolve, focus, or confidence. God's hand, which guided him through that sliver-thin election, now rested fully on him. As he walked back to his seat, the camera angle was appropriate. He was virtually alone in the scene, alone in that massive place with God, just him and the Lord. Back at his seat, George H. Bush reached over and took his son's hand. In that gesture his father seemed to say, "I wish I could do this for you, son, but I can't. You have to do this on your own." President George W. Bush squeezed back and gave him a look of peace that said, "I don't have to do it alone, Dad. I've got Help." What a blessing to have a professing Christian as President. Please take a moment after you read this to "pray for him." He truly does have the weight of the world on his shoulders. Pray that God will sustain him and give him wisdom and discernment in his decisions. Pray for his protection and that of his family. And after you have prayed, send this to everyone on your e-mail list. Our President needs Christians, Democrats and Republicans alike, to be praying for him. As this makes the e-mail rounds, eventually there could literally be millions of people praying for him, and for our Great Country. |
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Swell...in the meantime while you are busy giving Prez Bush a "treat" on your knees..you may notice that he IS continuing past presedential legacy of destroying our civil liberties. The Federal Government has now seen fit to do away with Habeus Corpus, and throw both Citizens and Non-Citizens into a Military Jail WITHOUT charges or a trial. Frankly I am NOT impressed by Bush. Yeah..he isn't the lying sad sack of sh_t that Klinton was..but Bush IS destroying our constitution just the same. |
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Quoted: Swell...in the meantime while you are busy giving Prez Bush a "treat" on your knees..you may notice that he IS continuing past presedential legacy of destroying our civil liberties. The Federal Government has now seen fit to do away with Habeus Corpus, and throw both Citizens and Non-Citizens into a Military Jail WITHOUT charges or a trial. Frankly I am NOT impressed by Bush. Yeah..he isn't the lying sad sack of sh_t that Klinton was..but Bush IS destroying our constitution just the same. Exactly. Kudos on taking the words out of my mouth. He is taking my rights, not defending them. At least the BATF&E is [i]part[/i] of the Justice Department now. |
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Quoted: Yeah..he isn't the lying sad sack of sh_t that Klinton was..but Bush IS destroying our constitution just the same. Please list ALL the rights & liberties that you have **personally** lost? Or perhaps you can list ONE? Or list when you got arrested w/o a warrant or lawyer? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Yeah..he isn't the lying sad sack of sh_t that Klinton was..but Bush IS destroying our constitution just the same. Please list ALL the rights & liberties that you have **personally** lost? Or perhaps you can list ONE? Or list when you got arrested w/o a warrant or lawyer? perhaps you should read the following: [b]First They Came for the Jews[/b] First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. [i]Pastor Martin Niemöller [/i] Just because it doesnt effect YOU personally you should still worry about it. As a matter of fact not worrying about it because it DOESNT effect you is silly. Every liberty lost, be it mine, or some american muslim held in some unnamed prison cell on the suspicion (and only that) that he may be a terrorist, or some family pet on the side of the highway gunned down because of an idiot police officer, effects me. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Yeah..he isn't the lying sad sack of sh_t that Klinton was..but Bush IS destroying our constitution just the same. Please list ALL the rights & liberties that you have **personally** lost? Or perhaps you can list ONE? Or list when you got arrested w/o a warrant or lawyer? ok...fine 1. The Bush administration's proposal would expand the government's wiretap authority, allowing law enforcement agencies to seek one order to track communications in any jurisdiction, regardless of whether they are by voice or e-mail. It also would give enforcement agencies almost ubiquitous ability to monitor an individual, regardless of what form of communication the suspect uses. Current law requires investigators to seek court approval in each jurisdiction for each device being monitored. That law is "ill adapted for use in communications over multiple cell phones and computer networks," said Ashcroft. "We're not asking the law to expand, just to grow as technology grows," he added. [url]http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/story/0,10801,64194,00.html[/url] 2. As part of his war on terrorism, President Bush has asked Congress for a complete overhaul of US surveillance and immigration rules that would give law enforcement officials expanded privileges to spy on phone calls, the Internet, and voicemail messages. "We need these tools to fight the terrorism threat which exists in the United States, and we must meet that growing threat," Attorney General John Ashcroft said this week. Bush submitted a draft of the bill, the Mobilization Against Terrorism Act (MATA)[url]http://www.wartimeliberty.com/articles/01/09/19/2311225.shtml[/url], to Congress on Wednesday. Lawmakers are expected to vote on the measure over the weekend. A reaction to the terror attacks of September 11, the bill would give the government greater leeway in deploying its most controversial spy systems: Echelon and Carnivore. Echelon is the National Security Agency's global surveillance system, operated in conjunction with Canada and Great Britain. The system can eavesdrop on phone calls, faxes, and emails. Carnivore is the FBI's online surveillance tool. By installing the Carnivore software on an ISP's servers, the FBI can intercept a suspect's incoming and outgoing email messages. Right now, the FBI must obtain a court order before installing Carnivore on an ISP's systems, but a bill approved by the Senate on September 14 would permit monitoring in more situations. Among the changes MATA seeks: Expanding police wiretap powers. Any US attorney or state attorney general could order an ISP to install Carnivore without a court order. Letting law enforcement officials obtain suspects' voicemail messages with just a search warrant. Currently, they must get a wiretap order, which requires higher judicial scrutiny. [red][b]Allowing investigators to use Echelon against American citizens -- if the information-gathering procedures previously would have violated the Fourth Amendment. [/b][/red] Allowing DNA samples to be taken from all convicted felons. Expanding the powers of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), a 1978 law that created a secret court for spy investigations. Under the FISA revisions, surveillance could be carried out for up to a year instead of the current range of 45 to 90 days. The revised FISA also would allow prosecutors to search the records of any ISP, business, or credit card company without a judge's subpoena. [url]http://www.techtv.com/news/politicsandlaw/story/0,24195,3349081,00.html[/url] OK, That's enough for the first ammendment... I might have to continue tamale... much more reading to do- [b]I didn't realize just how badly I'm getting fucked in the name of homeland security.[/b] I also have to add, I will start a seperate thread on the facts tomorrow. I don't want to completely Hijack this fellows thread.[:D] |
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He is my president but I don’t have to like it. He can say he’s a Christian and but that does not mean he’s a Christian. Christians don’t swear to do something and then do the opposite. Did he not swear to protect the constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic? I don’t care what some fast talker says; I look at what they do, not what they say and I will not vote for this man even if it means I don’t vote for president in the next election. THISISME |
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Quoted: He is my president but I don’t have to like it. He can say he’s a Christian and but that does not mean he’s a Christian. Christians don’t swear to do something and then do the opposite. HAHA!...Oh Lord I can't believe that statement. So, tell me then buddy, since when are Christians always perfect, or humans for that matter? I was raised with Christian values and LORD knows I'm not perfect. If your gonna make an arguement, make it based on facts and not..."Christians don't swear to do something then do the opposite" I guess Christians dont lie, cheat, arent adulterers, dont steal either? Ever heard of Jimmy Swaggert, REVEREND Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, oh the list goes on. That's as absurd as saying all Jews are greedy, all men are pigs, all Blacks are criminal...or anything else for that matter. I dont mean to bash you, but you put youself out there for it on that one. Think next time. --Kara |
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xxKAREBEARxx, I was not raised as a Christian though I was saved over eighteen years ago. The Christians I know don’t do those things and neither do I. I would not call anyone on your short list a Christian either. The bible lets us know that many who call themselves Christians will go into judgment following these words; “depart from me you doers of iniquity, I never knew you.” We are not saved by our works but we are known by them. Can a good tree bear bad fruit? If it does it is cut down and cast into the fire. THISISME |
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I think its a joke if you think your perfect.....I think its even worse that you judge and call yourself a Christian.... Who are you to call out who's Christian and who's not? Isnt it a belief of Christian's that judgement of others is a sin and that there's only one being who can judge us and that's God? And if it is believed by Christian's that a sin, is a sin, is a sin...then how are you and your sins any better? Surely your not telling me you've never sinned....I only know one person who can fall into that category. And unless your leading the second coming ...lol I dont believe its you. |
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xxKAREBEARxx, Nobody said anyone was perfect but its obvious you don’t know the bible because everything I wrote was based on scripture. If you where a Christian you would know that there’s a difference between judging and discerning. When you see someone stealing you stuff and you call them a thief, it’s not judging. In the same way the bible tells us that if someone makes a practice of doing certain things that they are not saved and it doesn’t matter what anyone else says about it. Luke 6:43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. 45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh. 46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? 47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: 48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. 49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great. James 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. 22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. 23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: 24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. 25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. 26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. 27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? The bible is full of such scriptures and I could go one for dozens of pages but suffice it to say that if you make a practice of sinning after you are saved there is no guaranty written in the bible that you will remain saved and there are a great deal that say you will will be judged. THISISME |
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Post from Bostonterrier97 - Yeah..he isn't the lying sad sack of sh_t that Klinton was..but Bush IS destroying our constitution just the same. How do you feel about Lincoln's conduct in the War Between the States? Had he not conducted the War so, would the Union still have been preserved? Eric The(JustAsking)Hun[>]:)] |
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Quoted: Quoted: Yeah..he isn't the lying sad sack of sh_t that Klinton was..but Bush IS destroying our constitution just the same. Please list ALL the rights & liberties that you have **personally** lost? Or perhaps you can list ONE? Or list when you got arrested w/o a warrant or lawyer? Bob, when 1 American lose's a Freedom or right, All Americans lose it..... |