Posted: 2/11/2013 2:43:22 AM EDT
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There was a doctor shortage before ObamaCare but the President's signature bill and grand theft will exacerbate the shortage. It is a "grand theft" because to pay for his >$1 trillion expansion of bureaucracy, Obama will take money from patient care services: $716 billion from Medicare. As Robert Moffit, PhD (Heritage Foundation) testified before Congress, "You cannot get more of something [viz., doctor care] by paying less for it."
Good short read.http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/02/obamacare_shell_game_now_apparent.html |
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In a way, Obobocare is a good thing for our local hospital. We've had several new doctors come here after closing practices in urban centers and deciding to move out here to the sticks. We now have a former neurosurgeon from New York City running the Emergency Room along with a former instructor from Long Island University Hospital working with hm.
And we have several more doctors from that area who are "commuting" to the area to work the ER on weekends as they set the groundwork to leave their current big city practices and relocate to the country. One is coming from as far away as Chicago for two weekends per month to establish herself in the community for an eventual move here. Obobocare, bleeding the cities by convincing the doctors to get the hell out. |
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The FSA wants to eat cake, let them eat cake. They can stuff their fat, lazy asses full and choke to death on their checks too for all I care.
I can't wait to tell them all to fuck off when this house of cards comes down, hopefully right on top of their big screen TV's in their shitty little apartments we pay for. |
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The FSA wants to eat cake, let them eat cake. They can stuff their fat, lazy asses full and choke to death on their checks too for all I care. I can't wait to tell them all to fuck off when this house of cards comes down, hopefully right on top of their big screen TV's in their shitty little apartments we pay for. This |
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In a way, Obobocare is a good thing for our local hospital. We've had several new doctors come here after closing practices in urban centers and deciding to move out here to the sticks. We now have a former neurosurgeon from New York City running the Emergency Room along with a former instructor from Long Island University Hospital working with hm. And we have several more doctors from that area who are "commuting" to the area to work the ER on weekends as they set the groundwork to leave their current big city practices and relocate to the country. One is coming from as far away as Chicago for two weekends per month to establish herself in the community for an eventual move here. Obobocare, bleeding the cities by convincing the doctors to get the hell out. hopefully she leaves the chicago in chicago |
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No problem, make medical school so freaking expensive that no one can afford to go.
Offer scholarships only to those candidates who agree to practice in underserved areas. Call it the "National Health Corps". Regular doctors will struggle to make a living, with high debt loads and minimal repayment allowed by Government approved insurers and Medicare. On the other hand, Government doctors graduate with no debt, and steady raises delivered by the taxpayers. Net they make more money than almost any private physician. After a decade or two, there won't be anybody left in private practice or the private health insurance business. |
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The American public will spend the next 3 years realizing the shit sandwich they just made for themselves and the fourth year will be spent removing enough of these idiots from positions of power to undo what Obama has done and allowing the adults to fix this thing.
Or maybe our economy will collapse under its own weight before that and these issues will be dealt with in other ways. I'm hoping for the first but betting on the latter. |
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Bongocare is a huge cluster fuck of epic proportions. This. Normally, when a politician even thinks about medicare/aid, the oldsters shun him...I can't believe the grays didn't come out in force to a) stop Zerocare before it got started and b) vote for the only way of hoping to end it. |
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Bongocare is a huge cluster fuck of epic proportions. This. Normally, when a politician even thinks about medicare/aid, the oldsters shun him...I can't believe the grays didn't come out in force to a) stop Zerocare before it got started and b) vote for the only way of hoping to end it. WAY TOO MANY older people do NOT want to have their SS or Medicare benefits reduced. It is all about the money they keep in their pockets. |
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The American public will spend the next 3 years realizing the shit sandwich they just made for themselves and the fourth year will be spent removing enough of these idiots from positions of power to undo what Obama has done and allowing the adults to fix this thing. Or maybe our economy will collapse under its own weight before that and these issues will be dealt with in other ways. I'm hoping for the first but betting on the latter. One can only hope this proves to be true...of course I started saying the same thing 4 years ago. |
| The 0bamacare plan was designed to fail. That way when it collapses the private sector alternatives are destroyed and only a full on government single payer system will fill the void (because they've already trained us that we can't just pay a fee for services rendered). |
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The 0bamacare plan was designed to fail. That way when it collapses the private sector alternatives are destroyed and only a full on government single payer system will fill the void (because they've already trained us that we can't just pay a fee for services rendered). This really is the end game IMHO. |
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In a way, Obobocare is a good thing for our local hospital. We've had several new doctors come here after closing practices in urban centers and deciding to move out here to the sticks. We now have a former neurosurgeon from New York City running the Emergency Room along with a former instructor from Long Island University Hospital working with hm. And we have several more doctors from that area who are "commuting" to the area to work the ER on weekends as they set the groundwork to leave their current big city practices and relocate to the country. One is coming from as far away as Chicago for two weekends per month to establish herself in the community for an eventual move here. Obobocare, bleeding the cities by convincing the doctors to get the hell out. Are those physicians residency trained board certified in Emergency Medicine? How exactly is it good that a neurosurgeon is running an ED? That would be like me running a neurosurgery department. They will not leave Chicago behind, and they may not be the best for the specific job. The neurosurgeon should be doing neurosurgery, not emergency medicine. |
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No one should think that obamacare was designed to do anything other than strip the medical field of any independent action and wipe it out so as to have government run it all, just a part and parcel of the progressive plans for America. One of its main goals is to destroy the private insurance sector. |
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No one should think that obamacare was designed to do anything other than strip the medical field of any independent action and wipe it out so as to have government run it all, just a part and parcel of the progressive plans for America. One of its main goals is to destroy the private insurance sector. I agree |
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In a way, Obobocare is a good thing for our local hospital. We've had several new doctors come here after closing practices in urban centers and deciding to move out here to the sticks. We now have a former neurosurgeon from New York City running the Emergency Room along with a former instructor from Long Island University Hospital working with hm. And we have several more doctors from that area who are "commuting" to the area to work the ER on weekends as they set the groundwork to leave their current big city practices and relocate to the country. One is coming from as far away as Chicago for two weekends per month to establish herself in the community for an eventual move here. Obobocare, bleeding the cities by convincing the doctors to get the hell out. Are those physicians residency trained board certified in Emergency Medicine? How exactly is it good that a neurosurgeon is running an ED? That would be like me running a neurosurgery department. They will not leave Chicago behind, and they may not be the best for the specific job. The neurosurgeon should be doing neurosurgery, not emergency medicine. The neurosugeon said "Screw it!" to running a neurosurgery department and moved out to the sticks several years ago. As far as running the ER goes, my family members who work with him say "he's very damn good" working in that ER. Those commenting members of the wife's family probably have fifty years of combined ER work between them, too. And the doctor who's coming from Chicago is a native of Pennsylvania who wants to get away from Chicago to raise her family. |
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Quoted: No problem, make medical school so freaking expensive that no one can afford to go. Offer scholarships only to those candidates who agree to practice in underserved areas. Call it the "National Health Corps". Regular doctors will struggle to make a living, with high debt loads and minimal repayment allowed by Government approved insurers and Medicare. On the other hand, Government doctors graduate with no debt, and steady raises delivered by the taxpayers. Net they make more money than almost any private physician. After a decade or two, there won't be anybody left in private practice or the private health insurance business. Actually it already exists - the Public Health Service Corps - a uniformed service under the command of the Surgeon General (that's the uniform the Surgeon General wears). And doctors, PAs, NPs and RNs that quit or retired due to our historic President, Barack Hussein Obama's inevitable and triumphant transformation of healthcare will find themselves conscripted directed volunteers in the Public Health Service Corps. |
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No one should think that obamacare was designed to do anything other than strip the medical field of any independent action and wipe it out so as to have government run it all, just a part and parcel of the progressive plans for America. One of its main goals is to destroy the private insurance sector. That was admitted by the (I believe) GAO a few months ago, they predict it and say obamacare was tailored to cause just that. Pelosi primarily should be held accountable along with obama for widespread damage from this bill. |
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The 0bamacare plan was designed to fail. That way when it collapses the private sector alternatives are destroyed and only a full on government single payer system will fill the void (because they've already trained us that we can't just pay a fee for services rendered). This really is the end game IMHO. No, Single payer is only the 'second to last' step. Eventually (happening even now) there will be no 'fee for service' insurance (Medicare/Medicaid/Privates). Once they get to single payer, then they'll decide "it's too expensive to keep paying this way, now we have to nationalize the medicine in the US. For you to get a DEA/NPI and practice, you'll have to work for the government. All Doctors, Nurses, etc will be government employees (or, the penalties, licensing, etc will be so severe, only a very few will be able to practice outside the government system). Don't believe it? How about $50,000 annual DEA re-registration, DEA examining all your charts to ensure you are prescribing 'appropriately', etc, etc...if you don't want to be 'protected' from that by being a Government employee... 
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When the FSA realizes that ObamaCare a failure, they, and the rest of the liberals, will blame someone/something else for that failure. Agreed, the scapegoat posterchild George W Bush. And the POS FSA will wholeheartedly agree, the lib press will prop it up, and our fearless leader will be glorified once again as our saviour against those racist Republicans who have come to take away your FS. |
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No one should think that obamacare was designed to do anything other than strip the medical field of any independent action and wipe it out so as to have government run it all, just a part and parcel of the progressive plans for America. One of its main goals is to destroy the private insurance sector. Will it also be some sort of Tort reform?  if so I think I like it. Did the lawyers think about this before they passed it?
If the .gov takes over health care can they be sued for negligence? This could be a good thing. |
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I've spent the past 6 months, and enlisted friends who are Docs to talk my 18yo not to go Pre-Med this fall. How screwed up is this nation when proud parents do NOT want their brilliant, empathetic, hard-working kid to be a doctor? She keeps insisting on healthcare and we've been trying to at least steer her towards being an Orthodontist or Dermatologist or Plastic Surgeon. Something where she can still make a great living from doing medicine for 'cash' and not depending on the FSA commie-care for a salary. Or veterinary school.
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: In a way, Obobocare is a good thing for our local hospital. We've had several new doctors come here after closing practices in urban centers and deciding to move out here to the sticks. We now have a former neurosurgeon from New York City running the Emergency Room along with a former instructor from Long Island University Hospital working with hm. And we have several more doctors from that area who are "commuting" to the area to work the ER on weekends as they set the groundwork to leave their current big city practices and relocate to the country. One is coming from as far away as Chicago for two weekends per month to establish herself in the community for an eventual move here. Obobocare, bleeding the cities by convincing the doctors to get the hell out. Are those physicians residency trained board certified in Emergency Medicine? How exactly is it good that a neurosurgeon is running an ED? That would be like me running a neurosurgery department. They will not leave Chicago behind, and they may not be the best for the specific job. The neurosurgeon should be doing neurosurgery, not emergency medicine. The neurosugeon said "Screw it!" to running a neurosurgery department and moved out to the sticks several years ago. As far as running the ER goes, my family members who work with him say "he's very damn good" working in that ER. Those commenting members of the wife's family probably have fifty years of combined ER work between them, too. And the doctor who's coming from Chicago is a native of Pennsylvania who wants to get away from Chicago to raise her family. The week before the Panic, I sold a case of .223 to a high-profile Doc here (St Pete) who was going Galt and moving the hills of TN to just be a nobody contract physician. He made his nut and is taking off. Godspeed to him. |
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In a way, Obobocare is a good thing for our local hospital. We've had several new doctors come here after closing practices in urban centers and deciding to move out here to the sticks. We now have a former neurosurgeon from New York City running the Emergency Room along with a former instructor from Long Island University Hospital working with hm. And we have several more doctors from that area who are "commuting" to the area to work the ER on weekends as they set the groundwork to leave their current big city practices and relocate to the country. One is coming from as far away as Chicago for two weekends per month to establish herself in the community for an eventual move here. Obobocare, bleeding the cities by convincing the doctors to get the hell out. Are those physicians residency trained board certified in Emergency Medicine? How exactly is it good that a neurosurgeon is running an ED? That would be like me running a neurosurgery department. They will not leave Chicago behind, and they may not be the best for the specific job. The neurosurgeon should be doing neurosurgery, not emergency medicine. The neurosugeon said "Screw it!" to running a neurosurgery department and moved out to the sticks several years ago. As far as running the ER goes, my family members who work with him say "he's very damn good" working in that ER. Those commenting members of the wife's family probably have fifty years of combined ER work between them, too. And the doctor who's coming from Chicago is a native of Pennsylvania who wants to get away from Chicago to raise her family. The week before the Panic, I sold a case of .223 to a high-profile Doc here (St Pete) who was going Galt and moving the hills of TN to just be a nobody contract physician. He made his nut and is taking off. Godspeed to him. You would think there will be a demand for health care by the rich who will be able to pay cash for private health care on top of paying for obamacare. I would think the best of the best in the healthcare field will cater to the rich and the politicians who are exempt from obamacare. |
