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5/26/2009 7:28:30 AM EDT
I've been trying to decide this for a while, years and the rapid movement to the left has made me wonder even more.

Is Obama (the man, his supporters, his plan and liberals in general)

1) actually out to destroy the American way of life and replace it with a socialist/totalitarian regime

or

2) just an idiot who seriously believe the shit that he says

It occurs to me that there are other factors to consider.  Example: the idea that he is just a puppet for Soros and the like.  Also, whether he is either in way over his head (as would go with number 2) or everything is going according to plan (which would go, mostly with choice 1)
5/26/2009 7:29:45 AM EDT
[#1]
There's no doubt it's  #1.  

HH
5/26/2009 7:30:33 AM EDT
[#2]
The kenyan commie is an idiot out to destroy America.  Get both?
5/26/2009 7:31:38 AM EDT
[#3]
...living proof that you can get a Harvard Law Degree while possessing the intellectual horsepower of a rutabaga.
5/26/2009 7:31:52 AM EDT
[#4]
Anti-American piece of shit.
5/26/2009 7:32:56 AM EDT
[#5]
Out to destroy America
5/26/2009 7:32:57 AM EDT
[#6]
...idiot and in over his head.
5/26/2009 7:34:11 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
The kenyan commie is an idiot out to destroy America.  Get both?


You really can't get both...  if he is out to destroy America then he (or his handlers) is a genius and stands a pretty good chance of succeeding
5/26/2009 7:34:50 AM EDT
[#8]
Anti-American Socialist ASSHOLE.

5/26/2009 7:35:28 AM EDT
[#9]
All of the above.  I hate this fucker.
5/26/2009 7:38:33 AM EDT
[#10]
[tinfoil] He's a stupid puppet that believes what's scrolling on the teleprompter and has no problem being the patsy that destroys America. [/tinfoil]
5/26/2009 7:44:45 AM EDT
[#11]
An idiot with a lust for power and fame. His ego knows no bounds.
5/26/2009 7:50:04 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
There's no doubt it's  #1.  

HH


I'm inclined to agree with you (which suggests doubt however) I typically enjoy your reasoning and would like to hear your arguments of 1 vs 2.
5/26/2009 7:50:12 AM EDT
[#13]
I don't think he wakes up in the morning with the goal of destroying America (at least not in the way he sees it), but it seems to be the path we are headed towards.
5/26/2009 8:35:25 AM EDT
[#14]
Hanlon's Razor.
5/26/2009 8:39:18 AM EDT
[#15]
He doesn't CARE about anything other than himself.  He doesn't have an agenda for the United States, because he doesn't really give a shit.

He'll do whatever he does in order to please various constituents that he owes political favors to (that's how the Chicago machine works), and he'll try to make whatever decisions he's FORCED to make, with as little personal acocuntability as he possibly can - but mostly he just wants to make big sweeping speeches, get lots of media coverage, and enjoy his ride as American "royalty" and milk it as much as he can.

Narcissists don't care about anything but themselves.  The only way he cares about the United States is in the sense that he can do something that will be HIS "legacy" - and you better believe he doesn't want a legacy like Carter, or a legacy as someone who was divisive, or who really screwed things up.  He wants to please as many people as possible, but is apparently too dumb to realize that many of the decisions he has to make simply doesn't allow that, which is why he will avoid the big decisions as much as possible.
5/26/2009 8:50:40 AM EDT
[#16]
He is just now really discovering his cluelessness.

His leftist ideals aren't working out as he had hoped.

What a tard.  
5/26/2009 8:53:45 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
An idiot with a lust for power and fame. His ego knows no bounds.




This....
5/26/2009 8:55:50 AM EDT
[#18]
Kitten killer
5/26/2009 8:57:39 AM EDT
[#19]
Too many historic parallels not to be a future megalomaniac. His ideas may be idiotic, but his plan isn't...he knows fully well what he's doing.
5/26/2009 9:05:33 AM EDT
[#20]
When the OP adds the following fourth option, I'll vote.

- A giant walking turd who cares nothing about what this country was founded on.
5/26/2009 9:06:05 AM EDT
[#21]
I cannot reply to this post in the way I really feel because I would be banned from this and every other site one could think of.....Lets just say he is a commie asshole.....
5/26/2009 9:06:16 AM EDT
[#22]
People I meet always say he doesn't know what he is doing... I think he knows exactly what he is doing.
5/26/2009 9:07:02 AM EDT
[#23]
I find it hard to believe that four people have selected the "hope and change" option.  Hopefully it was a mistake and/or people fucking with me.

Some interesting perspectives otherwise.
5/26/2009 9:07:59 AM EDT
[#24]
To me, aspiring to fundamentally change America is  an aspiration to destroy it. I vote A.
5/26/2009 9:09:31 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Hanlon's Razor.


Thanks for making me look that up.  It had been a long time since I heard it and didn't remember it.

Of course it ignores the fact that there really is malice in the world, I'm not sure what this is.

Of course I don't think the majority of his supporters have malice in their hearts, most are just idiots.

5/26/2009 9:10:41 AM EDT
[#26]
to say that it is his intention to destroy America would imply that he actually has a goal other than self-advancement and self aggrandizement.

If he destroys America, it will be accidental.

(Hanlon's Razor, in other words...or Clark's Law)

5/26/2009 9:12:16 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
There's no doubt it's  #1.  

HH


ETA: IMO, his definition of what America

A) doesnt work, which has been proven by the likes of Cuba and Russia

and

B) Only serves to empower him and his fellows because in their narcissitic haze they TRULY believe we are too stupid to govern ourselves.

so therefore, he is a) out to destroy America
5/26/2009 9:16:05 AM EDT
[#28]
5 Dummies So Far
5/26/2009 9:17:38 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Hanlon's Razor.


"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity".
5/26/2009 9:22:04 AM EDT
[#30]
i voted C because you have no pie choice and i cant make up my mind between 1 and 2.



FOADDL


ETA the pic of him not holding his hand over heart during the national anthem does suggest 1 is the case.
5/26/2009 4:28:13 PM EDT
[#31]
just an idiot

who

out to destroy America





5/26/2009 6:02:09 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
i voted C because you have no pie choice and i cant make up my mind between 1 and 2.



FOADDL


ETA the pic of him not holding his hand over heart during the national anthem does suggest 1 is the case.


On the surface I would be inclined to agree with that, but if he was a genius bent on destroying America (or if his handlers are) he would have certainly put his hand up just for the few votes it would get him.

But he seems to be thumbing his nose at us, at every patriotic American..."guys it doesn't matter, I'm going to win."  AND he got away with it, more than once.  That makes me think evil genius (even though I just contradicted myself)
5/26/2009 6:11:43 PM EDT
[#33]
shitbag .....oh sorry that wasnt one the choices
5/26/2009 6:46:18 PM EDT
[#34]
bed time bump