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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:00:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is how they will come take your guns. That would go over smoothly 
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:02:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ha! They didn't believe in individual accountability by the kings men, only by the little people. Otherwise why is it well known that ignorance of the law is no excuse?* Except for those changed with enforcing it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: She should get paid. Deputy Powertrip there entered her home without consent or a warrant. Yes, but deputy dipshit should pay, and as another member said the departments pension fund. Ha! They didn't believe in individual accountability by the kings men, only by the little people. Otherwise why is it well known that ignorance of the law is no excuse?* Except for those changed with enforcing it. This. The judiciary has, as a matter of law, created a second class of citizens. They are loathe to do anything that'll upset their lap dogs. Fuck this cop, and fuck anyone that defends him |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:14:59 AM EST
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope you are trolling, otherwise this is the stupidest comment I have read all week. Dude is a known troll |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:19:53 AM EST
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It's wild that I went from extremely pro to anti law enforcement in like 4 years.
Not I hate them, I just think we'd be better off without them. They seem to target the compliant/law abiding, protect the criminals, and ignore criminals mostly Just what it seems. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 2:38:28 AM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've always believed that if Bad Cops had to pay the settlement themselves or it comes from their department pension fund, they'd very soon learn that crime should not pay. Taking settlements & judgements from the Department's Pension pool .... and soon Officers & Deputies would be motivated to sort out their own "bad apples" much sooner. Bigger_Hammer  Have the settlement funds come from the next fiscal years budget. "Sorry guys, Officer Dumbass, through his stupidity cost the department $5.5 million because he was stupid. No OT, work week is cut back to 30 hrs per week for the foreseeable future" |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:08:33 AM EST
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42 USC 1983. The homeowner can file an action under this section of law. The payoff will be huge. The city will move to settle immediately because there is no defense here for the officer’s actions. The officer should be fired. Major blatant 4A violation.
I think the officer confused vampire rules (a vampire cannot enter your home unless you invite him in) with search warrants. Just a joke of course, but a vampire wouldn’t have entered be cause he wasn’t invited, and even though LE may control comings and goings during a search warrant, they certainly don’t own the home. This moron cop was neither a vampire nor had a warrant. Fuck that cop. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:12:09 AM EST
[#8]
He owns the home now.
The least she could do was make him a sandwich.l |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:22:57 AM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, am aware, but every case is unique. Was the child at the door in distress, prompting officer to enter to investigate? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lol Caniglia v Strom Yes, am aware, but every case is unique. Was the child at the door in distress, prompting officer to enter to investigate? No, the minor wasn’t in distress. The cop had zero PC. He didn’t even have reasonable suspicion (he observed no noise when he arrived and a report to dispatch gives him nothing as soon as he found there was no noise. Let me make this easy for you, the cop trampled that woman’s 4A rights. Like obliterated them. He then cemented the deal by placing her under arrest under false pretenses, yet another 4A violation. I have been in LE for over 30 years. This one is so easy, a caveman could figure it out. How it should have happened: - Cop arrives to investigate noise complaint. Heard nothing after observing for a minute or so. Cop leaves and calls it in as unfounded. Maybe goes and talks to the complaining party in person and finds out what the problem really is in case the complaint is called in again. That cop went from zero to retard as soon as he knocked on the door. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:29:26 AM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Isolated Incident. In this case, it is. The vast majority of cops know better than to do what that cop did. Does it happen? Yes, but very rarely because the cop knows he will get the shit sued out of him. This cop was truly one of the very stupid ones and will pay dearly for his blunder. Prior to streaming video and the internet this kind of thing probably happened a little more, but with nearly every encounter being recorded, even the bad cops know not to do something so blatant and stupid. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:38:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty wild. Dude opened the door and invited himself in. Where was this at? AZ? I like how body cameras were supposed to be the end all be all for nailing criminals, but all they seem to catch is cops acting like criminals themselves. You got that backwards, body cams were supposed catch all the cops doing dirty things. A big push came for them after the Michael Brown case. They have ended up showing more criminals acting like criminals. This case didn’t involve a body cam. The idiot cop was filmed violating the homeowner’s 4A rights by someone in the house. Good thing too. The homeowner will be getting a huge payout for it. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 3:43:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even though I was a Sheriffs Deputy from 2007 to 2015, I always thought it was ridiculous to arrest someone for “resisting arrest” when they weren’t under arrest in the first place. Edit to add: I left law enforcement because of witnessing to much corruption within the department. Way too many shady dealings within the good ol boy system. That’s because you were 100% correct. A resisting arrest charge cannot stand on its own. There has to be a predicate offense. Resisting arrest, aka “contempt of cop”, is way overused and dismissed frequently. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:27:18 AM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are many instances you can enter a home without a warrant and uninvited. I don’t think a loud music complaint is one of those unless extenuating circumstances exist. It's not. He's the reason why the barrier of entry for law enforcement should be a law degree. And gypsy cops should be barred from even working at McDonalds. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:30:49 AM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is the Deputy Dipshit's boss complaining that police get no respect. https://www.reddit.com/r/ACAB/comments/15mnfuv/riverside_county_sheriff_chad_bianco_whines/ 
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:31:22 AM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's wild that I went from extremely pro to anti law enforcement in like 4 years. Not I hate them, I just think we'd be better off without them. They seem to target the compliant/law abiding, protect the criminals, and ignore criminals mostly Just what it seems. Always respected most law enforcement for doing a difficult job but was wary about a lot of the unconstitutional practices and casual violation of civil rights. COVID BS enforcement while tolerating rioting and looting from other demographics shifted my cautious optimism about the profession to just acknowledging that we doing this anarchotyranny thing now and police are not here to help. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:38:49 AM EST
[#16]
Get a storm door and keep it locked. Then speak to the officer through that door.
Once you open the door and they cross the barrier, they will charge you with battery on a police officer if you try and bar their entry. The officer was a dick, and deserves to be fired, but he will prevail in court. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:43:05 AM EST
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Quoted: Cop is investigating a noise complaint. Cop rings the doorbell, kids answer door, they realize a cop is standing on the porch and so they run to get their mother. Officer proceeds to open the door, invites himself in the house and refuses to leave when asked to leave. Homeowner demands cop leaves, cop says he owns the house if he is standing inside and that he doesn't have to leave. Officer then drags woman outside and arrests her for contempt of cop. At what point is the cop an armed home invader? What could possibly justify this thinking?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfGooi1JJUgLet’s see how many officers line up to throw him under the bus, file charges, arrest him and send him off to prison. Let me guess 0. Back the blue is gone. And qualified immunity needs to be done away with so fast it’s ridiculous. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:49:48 AM EST
[#18]
Defund the police and this is what we get.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:53:27 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are numerous exceptions to the warrant requirement, and in California they have the community caretaking function. I can see this go either way. I haven’t watched the video, but I’ve had to sit thru enough 4th amendment classes/videos that I bet it’s a violation. Sue the officer and the County for this in federal court. That’s where it will carry weight. Police have the exigent circumstance rule. Entering a home because the child left the door open isn’t an invitation to enter and doesn’t fit the exigent circumstance rule. Period. If a wife and husband open the door together and one says come in and the other says you cannot, you cannot, without exigent circumstance. What is exigent circumstance? Violent domestic 911 call where “he is stabbing me” is heard screamed and no one will open the door….door will get kicked down. No time to obtain a judge signed warrant. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:56:03 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They seem to target the compliant/law abiding, protect the criminals, and ignore criminals mostly Just what it seems. That's the message that they get from their Masters, the politicians who write the laws. A high profile shooting? Write new laws that take away the rights of John and Jane Whitebread but will do nothing to control Jamiriqui Q. Quantavius who is out roaming the hood with a Glock switch. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:57:31 AM EST
[#21]
He got home safe at the end of his shift and that's all that matters.
Oh wait! |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:09:03 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In this case, it is. The vast majority of cops know better than to do what that cop did. Does it happen? Yes, but very rarely because the cop knows he will get the shit sued out of him. This cop was truly one of the very stupid ones and will pay dearly for his blunder. Prior to streaming video and the internet this kind of thing probably happened a little more, but with nearly every encounter being recorded, even the bad cops know not to do something so blatant and stupid. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Isolated Incident. In this case, it is. The vast majority of cops know better than to do what that cop did. Does it happen? Yes, but very rarely because the cop knows he will get the shit sued out of him. This cop was truly one of the very stupid ones and will pay dearly for his blunder. Prior to streaming video and the internet this kind of thing probably happened a little more, but with nearly every encounter being recorded, even the bad cops know not to do something so blatant and stupid. If more "good" cops were willing to speak up about "bad" cops, public perception would change. I'm NOT saying that all or even most cops would do the same thing. What I AM saying is that if they say or do nothing to the contrary, it at least implies that they're OK with it. I I live in a "cop town" and have overheard multiple instances of cops at kids' sporting events openly discussing how they have pulled over cops for drunk driving and sent them on their way. Now, I don't drink, so I don't care about inequal treatment, but I DO care about potentially being on the road with some liquored up cop. And to openly discus it within earshot of children!?! I have seen countless instances on Arfcom where cops will even take it a step further and defend bad behavior. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:11:02 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In this case, it is. The vast majority of cops know better than to do what that cop did. Does it happen? Yes, but very rarely because the cop knows he will get the shit sued out of him. This cop was truly one of the very stupid ones and will pay dearly for his blunder. Prior to streaming video and the internet this kind of thing probably happened a little more, but with nearly every encounter being recorded, even the bad cops know not to do something so blatant and stupid. Sternly worded letter in his file? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:13:30 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sternly worded letter in his file? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In this case, it is. The vast majority of cops know better than to do what that cop did. Does it happen? Yes, but very rarely because the cop knows he will get the shit sued out of him. This cop was truly one of the very stupid ones and will pay dearly for his blunder. Prior to streaming video and the internet this kind of thing probably happened a little more, but with nearly every encounter being recorded, even the bad cops know not to do something so blatant and stupid. Sternly worded letter in his file? See? Now I know that Extorris was a cop and roughly where. I trust his perspective. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:18:53 AM EST
[#25]
So how do I know that the "cop" is actually a cop? Uniforms and badges don't mean shit. If you like, you can wait there while I call the local department and verify who you are. Or you can force your way into my house and be dealt with the same as an armed intruder of any other type.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:25:19 AM EST
[#26]
Where do they find a nearly continuous string of officers who missed their first day of law enforcement training?
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:26:33 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Have the settlement funds come from the next fiscal years budget. "Sorry guys, Officer Dumbass, through his stupidity cost the department $5.5 million because he was stupid. No OT, work week is cut back to 30 hrs per week for the foreseeable future" The workload in law enforcement doesn't work that way. Responding to the MVA or crime in progress isn't something that can be pushed back to another day because you ran out of paid hours today |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:27:22 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted:Loud music is the exception? Lol wtf. And he " owns their house"? He can get fked The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized, except if someone complains about loud music. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:28:58 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In this case, it is. The vast majority of cops know better than to do what that cop did. Does it happen? Yes, but very rarely because the cop knows he will get the shit sued out of him. This cop was truly one of the very stupid ones and will pay dearly for his blunder. Prior to streaming video and the internet this kind of thing probably happened a little more, but with nearly every encounter being recorded, even the bad cops know not to do something so blatant and stupid. I do appreciate your input on this thread, but why is getting sued the accepted standard for punishing bad cops like this? His actions were criminal and should be treated as such, |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:31:43 AM EST
[#30]
I don’t understand why people open the door for strangers, let alone ones with badges. Just don’t let him in.
What is he going to do, kick your door in over a noise complaint? Let him try to explain that. If the cops are at your door for a reason that’s actually bad enough to justify forcing entry, then make them do it - you’re already fucked anyway well beyond the cost of repairing your door. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:33:44 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are many instances you can enter a home without a warrant and uninvited. I don’t think a loud music complaint is one of those unless extenuating circumstances exist. One of the reasons I will never call 911. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:35:20 AM EST
[#32]
Some people think a badge is a super power, when in reality it's only as powerful as others allow it to be. Everything's hunky dory until somebody doesn't give a fuck.
"I own your home." LOL. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:38:28 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You can tell a cop is trustworthy when is standing inside the house and stating he isn’t in the house, Also, didn't the kid open the door and then shut it? If so, then the cop is a liar as well by stating the kid let him inside. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:38:30 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sternly worded letter in his file? Don't forget the paid admin leave while they investigate. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:41:04 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The moment he turns into an armed invader in someone's private home he ceases to be a cop and is a threat to that family's lives. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: [Deleted]I deleted this. Don't make implied threats v police Aimless The moment he turns into an armed invader in someone's private home he ceases to be a cop and is a threat to that family's lives. He is a threat to the entire community his whole shift. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:41:29 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I do appreciate your input on this thread, but why is getting sued the accepted standard for punishing bad cops like this? His actions were criminal and should be treated as such, Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In this case, it is. The vast majority of cops know better than to do what that cop did. Does it happen? Yes, but very rarely because the cop knows he will get the shit sued out of him. This cop was truly one of the very stupid ones and will pay dearly for his blunder. Prior to streaming video and the internet this kind of thing probably happened a little more, but with nearly every encounter being recorded, even the bad cops know not to do something so blatant and stupid. I do appreciate your input on this thread, but why is getting sued the accepted standard for punishing bad cops like this? His actions were criminal and should be treated as such, A civil suit is part of the remedy. As I indicated already, he is subject to a 1983 action - violation of rights under color of law. That is a federal crime. Make sense? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:42:22 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope you are trolling, otherwise this is the stupidest comment I have read all week. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes, am aware, but every case is unique. Was the child at the door in distress, prompting officer to enter to investigate? Known troll. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:42:36 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sternly worded letter in his file? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In this case, it is. The vast majority of cops know better than to do what that cop did. Does it happen? Yes, but very rarely because the cop knows he will get the shit sued out of him. This cop was truly one of the very stupid ones and will pay dearly for his blunder. Prior to streaming video and the internet this kind of thing probably happened a little more, but with nearly every encounter being recorded, even the bad cops know not to do something so blatant and stupid. Sternly worded letter in his file? Lawsuit and federal criminal action under 1983. DOJ will have a piece of his ass. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:43:07 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are many instances you can enter a home without a warrant and uninvited. I don’t think a loud music complaint is one of those unless extenuating circumstances exist. That’s the Ole Yeller exemption |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:43:15 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lawsuit and federal criminal action under 1983. DOJ will have a piece of his ass. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: In this case, it is. The vast majority of cops know better than to do what that cop did. Does it happen? Yes, but very rarely because the cop knows he will get the shit sued out of him. This cop was truly one of the very stupid ones and will pay dearly for his blunder. Prior to streaming video and the internet this kind of thing probably happened a little more, but with nearly every encounter being recorded, even the bad cops know not to do something so blatant and stupid. Sternly worded letter in his file? Lawsuit and federal criminal action under 1983. DOJ will have a piece of his ass. I'll believe it when I see it. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:46:30 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A civil suit is part of the remedy. As I indicated already, he is subject to a 1983 action - violation of rights under color of law. That is a federal crime. Make sense? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: In this case, it is. The vast majority of cops know better than to do what that cop did. Does it happen? Yes, but very rarely because the cop knows he will get the shit sued out of him. This cop was truly one of the very stupid ones and will pay dearly for his blunder. Prior to streaming video and the internet this kind of thing probably happened a little more, but with nearly every encounter being recorded, even the bad cops know not to do something so blatant and stupid. I do appreciate your input on this thread, but why is getting sued the accepted standard for punishing bad cops like this? His actions were criminal and should be treated as such, A civil suit is part of the remedy. As I indicated already, he is subject to a 1983 action - violation of rights under color of law. That is a federal crime. Make sense? It is part of the remedy, but not the primary means to punish criminal activity. And this shouldn’t be a federal issue, the states have plenty of laws about breaking into houses and kidnapping people. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:51:19 AM EST
[#42]
I keep hearing it's just a few bad apples.
They need to police themselves of them. A bad apple off gasses and spoils the good ones if not separated. It's surprisingly accurate to the government. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:51:47 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It is part of the remedy, but not the primary means to punish criminal activity. And this shouldn’t be a federal issue, the states have plenty of laws about breaking into houses and kidnapping people. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: In this case, it is. The vast majority of cops know better than to do what that cop did. Does it happen? Yes, but very rarely because the cop knows he will get the shit sued out of him. This cop was truly one of the very stupid ones and will pay dearly for his blunder. Prior to streaming video and the internet this kind of thing probably happened a little more, but with nearly every encounter being recorded, even the bad cops know not to do something so blatant and stupid. I do appreciate your input on this thread, but why is getting sued the accepted standard for punishing bad cops like this? His actions were criminal and should be treated as such, A civil suit is part of the remedy. As I indicated already, he is subject to a 1983 action - violation of rights under color of law. That is a federal crime. Make sense? It is part of the remedy, but not the primary means to punish criminal activity. And this shouldn’t be a federal issue, the states have plenty of laws about breaking into houses and kidnapping people. I'll believe it when the police actually police their own. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:54:33 AM EST
[#44]
Protected and served
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:56:18 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are many instances you can enter a home without a warrant and uninvited. I don’t think a loud music complaint is one of those unless extenuating circumstances exist. One of those circumstances is if they invite you in to play beer pong. I didn’t win but I got a free Pepsi. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:56:24 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's wild that I went from extremely pro to anti law enforcement in like 4 years. Not I hate them, I just think we'd be better off without them. They seem to target the compliant/law abiding, protect the criminals, and ignore criminals mostly Just what it seems. Imagine the possibilities, all the problems that could be solved swiftly by citizens that have tired of the BS. I've got no ill will towards some agencies (the local SO is outstanding with regards to the 2A and taking care of business) but damn sure won't go out if my way to support any branch of any governmental agency without knowing exactly who it is i'm supporting. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:57:05 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Great. Now what should happen to t this officer in your opinion? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are many instances you can enter a home without a warrant and uninvited. I don’t think a loud music complaint is one of those unless extenuating circumstances exist. Great. Now what should happen to t this officer in your opinion? Is it specifically against department policy and training to “own a persons home” for a while? I doubt it. 30 minutes of new training and officer is good to go. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:59:33 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lawsuit and federal criminal action under 1983. DOJ will have a piece of his ass. 1983 would be a self driven civil suit and good luck with that without some kind of civil rights group/ interested lobby (religious, gun, abortion, etc.) footing the bill since going to spend years just fighting qualified immunity defenses most likely. Federal criminal charges would be under Title 18, U.S.C., Section 242 - Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law or similar and pretty much guaranteed not to happen with the current DOJ. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:59:34 AM EST
[#49]
What a fucking stupid officer.
 How in God's name did that silly goose make it through the first day of cop school?  The tax payers are going to get raped. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:02:00 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've always believed that if Bad Cops had to pay the settlement themselves or it comes from their department pension fund, they'd very soon learn that crime should not pay. Taking settlements & judgements from the Department's Pension pool .... and soon Officers & Deputies would be motivated to sort out their own "bad apples" much sooner. Bigger_Hammer It’s called a Biven’s action, and It would def. be a part of my lawsuit in this case, in federal court. Disregard, Biven’s action appears to pertain to fed LEO. |
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