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Posted: 9/17/2024 9:03:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinSpinner: That’s about the exact same time I turned it off and went to bed, when he Eagles got a first down after the 2 minute warning I thought it was over. I’m kicking myself this morning. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinSpinner: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
 Amazing. That’s about the exact same time I turned it off and went to bed, when he Eagles got a first down after the 2 minute warning I thought it was over. I’m kicking myself this morning. At about the 8 minute mark in the 4th I almost called it quits. Figured the Falcons would Falcon and I could have used the sleep, but I figured it was a good enough game to keep watching. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 9:06:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stampkolektor: i turned off the TV to sleep 15-18 Eagles 1:34 left and went to brush my teeth. I check espn as I am about to sleep and the score as 21-21 lol i had to turn tv back on to rewind and see what happened
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Posted: 9/17/2024 9:24:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Jets Braelon Allen Wow. Not even 21. Thanks. Faith in my hearing has returned. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 9:29:42 AM EST
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C__zrldxdp3/?igsh=MWVsNG05czV3NWd1NA==
This guy is waking people up this morning! |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 9:32:09 AM EST
[#5]
Big charts:
Click To View Spoiler The Saints are playing like the best team in the NFL, the Panthers are the worst, the Chargers have the best defense, and the Rams might be missing Aaron Donald. Maybe. lol Derek Carr and Calamari are the best QBs so far with Allen and Mayfield joining them with video game efficiency stats. Sam Darnold continues to look weirdly good. Justin Fields is in an interesting spot. PFF thinks he's playing better than his stats indicate. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 9:35:44 AM EST
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Yet on today's power chart, they put the saints at #6 with KC at #1
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Posted: 9/17/2024 9:37:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gdirty5: Yet on today's power chart, they put the saints at #6 with KC at #1 Sir. Until the Chiefs are out in the playoffs they are #1. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 9:42:51 AM EST
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 Mahomes, Dak, and Goff are off to a brutal start to the season. Bryce Young at 9.1 is hilariously bad. Richardson's combination of catastrophic plays and mind blowing plays apparently averages out to good. National sports accounts on Twitter talk about Kirk looking cooked, but he's in his usual territory here. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 9:46:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: Hunter-Killer]
[#9]
From the prospective of “a fan watching your team play a game in September,” which is worse:
#1. A game where you know your team is going to lose at halftime. #2. A game where your team has a 99%+ win probability, but they blow it at the end. Personally, I think #2 is worse. At least with #1 you slowly realize your team is going to lose and you can even watch something else in the 2nd half if so inclined. #1 is just straight up gut-wrenching. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 9:53:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gdirty5: Yet on today's power chart, they put the saints at #6 with KC at #1 The Chiefs are a back to back Super Bowl Championship team that has been underwhelming to watch in the regular season the last few years, and they're 2-0 having played against two teams expected to be top-5 in the AFC. The Saints are a team that haven't made the playoffs since Drew Brees retired in 2020, and they've blown out the worst team in the NFL and a Cowboys team people are skeptical about. Beat the Ravens next week, and people will be asking if the Saints are that good or if the Ravens are that bad. Beat the Lions and the 9ers next month, and people will really be talking. But after two weeks? It makes sense. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 9:54:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Sir. Until the Chiefs are out in the playoffs they are #1. It's true... they always find a way to win. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 9:55:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: The Chiefs are a back to back Super Bowl Championship team that has been underwhelming to watch in the regular season the last few years, and they're 2-0 having played against two teams expected to be top-5 in the AFC. The Saints are a team that haven't made the playoffs since Drew Brees retired in 2020, and they've blown out the worst team in the NFL and a Cowboys team people are skeptical about. Beat the Ravens next week, and people will be asking if the Saints are that good or if the Ravens are that bad. Beat the Lions and the 9ers next month, and people will really be talking. But after two weeks? It makes sense. Thinking too far ahead, we have Eagles up this Sunday. Wonder how they will do with the eagles on an upset loss on a short week. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:01:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG: Originally Posted By stampkolektor: i turned off the TV to sleep 15-18 Eagles 1:34 left and went to brush my teeth. I check espn as I am about to sleep and the score as 21-21 lol i had to turn tv back on to rewind and see what happened
Wow. I have never watched Manningcast. Maybe next week. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:01:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gdirty5: Thinking too far ahead, we have Eagles up this Sunday. Wonder how they will do with the eagles on an upset loss on a short week. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gdirty5: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: The Chiefs are a back to back Super Bowl Championship team that has been underwhelming to watch in the regular season the last few years, and they're 2-0 having played against two teams expected to be top-5 in the AFC. The Saints are a team that haven't made the playoffs since Drew Brees retired in 2020, and they've blown out the worst team in the NFL and a Cowboys team people are skeptical about. Beat the Ravens next week, and people will be asking if the Saints are that good or if the Ravens are that bad. Beat the Lions and the 9ers next month, and people will really be talking. But after two weeks? It makes sense. Thinking too far ahead, we have Eagles up this Sunday. Wonder how they will do with the eagles on an upset loss on a short week. I was apparently looking at the wrong schedule (Dallas). Eagles, Falcons, Chiefs, and Bucs? The Saints can prove a LOT in that stretch. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:03:36 AM EST
[#15]
Via Forbes: Aaron Rodgers voted NFL's 'Most Annoying Player'
Action Network recently polled more than 3,000 football fans and asked a handful of questions, including who is the league's 'Most Annoying Player?' Rodgers, now with the New York Jets, was the runaway winner garnering 27% of the vote. Kansas City tight end Travis Kelce was second with 17% and Miami Dolphins wide receiver Odell Beckham was third at 10%. Rodgers was named 'Most Annoying' by 24 of the NFL's 32 fan bases, including Green Bay's. Kelce was named 'Most Annoying' by the other eight fan bases. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:08:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: I was apparently looking at the wrong schedule (Dallas). Eagles, Falcons, Chiefs, and Bucs? The Saints can prove a LOT in that stretch. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Originally Posted By Gdirty5: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: The Chiefs are a back to back Super Bowl Championship team that has been underwhelming to watch in the regular season the last few years, and they're 2-0 having played against two teams expected to be top-5 in the AFC. The Saints are a team that haven't made the playoffs since Drew Brees retired in 2020, and they've blown out the worst team in the NFL and a Cowboys team people are skeptical about. Beat the Ravens next week, and people will be asking if the Saints are that good or if the Ravens are that bad. Beat the Lions and the 9ers next month, and people will really be talking. But after two weeks? It makes sense. Thinking too far ahead, we have Eagles up this Sunday. Wonder how they will do with the eagles on an upset loss on a short week. I was apparently looking at the wrong schedule (Dallas). Eagles, Falcons, Chiefs, and Bucs? The Saints can prove a LOT in that stretch. The Falcons play the Chiefs, Bucs, and the Saints in the next few games too. Should be a good indicator of how the NFC south is shaping up. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:17:35 AM EST
[#17]
Tuesday morning mini-stat post.
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:23:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: From the prospective of “a fan watching your team play a game in September,” which is worse: #1. A game where you know your team is going to lose at halftime. #2. A game where your team has a 99%+ win probability, but they blow it at the end. Personally, I think #2 is worse. At least with #1 you slowly realize your team is going to lose and you can even watch something else in the 2nd half if so inclined. #1 is just straight up gut-wrenching. For me, #1 is worse. That tells me the team didn't show up if they aren't at least competitive. Losing after blowing a lead, sometimes shit happens. If they had a lead, they were competitive. And that type of game is more entertaining IMO. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:24:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gdirty5: It's true... they always find a way to win. As long as there is at least 1 ref or umpire on the field you can not count out the Chiefs. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:29:49 AM EST
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Aaron Schatz posted the current DVOA numbers and wrote about the Saints, Panthers, Seahawks, and Chiefs: https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/dvoa-week-2-more-new-orleans-magic
He notes that adjustments for strength of opponent haven't been established yet, so numbers are pretty crazy. Teams 1-5 are the Saints, Seahawks, Chargers, Vikings, and Texans, 14-16 are the Cowboys, 9ers, and Bengals, and the Chiefs are at #18. 
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:30:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: Via Forbes: Aaron Rodgers voted NFL's 'Most Annoying Player' Action Network recently polled more than 3,000 football fans and asked a handful of questions, including who is the league's 'Most Annoying Player?' Rodgers, now with the New York Jets, was the runaway winner garnering 27% of the vote. Kansas City tight end Travis Kelce was second with 17% and Miami Dolphins wide receiver Odell Beckham was third at 10%. Rodgers was named 'Most Annoying' by 24 of the NFL's 32 fan bases, including Green Bay's. Kelce was named 'Most Annoying' by the other eight fan bases. Libs are still mad about the whole vaccine thing
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:34:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: Libs are still mad about the whole vaccine thing Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: Originally Posted By David_ESM: Via Forbes: Aaron Rodgers voted NFL's 'Most Annoying Player' Action Network recently polled more than 3,000 football fans and asked a handful of questions, including who is the league's 'Most Annoying Player?' Rodgers, now with the New York Jets, was the runaway winner garnering 27% of the vote. Kansas City tight end Travis Kelce was second with 17% and Miami Dolphins wide receiver Odell Beckham was third at 10%. Rodgers was named 'Most Annoying' by 24 of the NFL's 32 fan bases, including Green Bay's. Kelce was named 'Most Annoying' by the other eight fan bases. Libs are still mad about the whole vaccine thing That's certainly part of it, but it's far from the whole story. Turning his Packers vs Jets decision into a months long soap opera, the darkness retreat, the hallucinogens, and attention whoring on PatMac's and Rogan's shows don't help, either. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:38:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colklink: As long as there is at least 1 ref or umpire on the field you can not count out the Chiefs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colklink: Originally Posted By Gdirty5: It's true... they always find a way to win. As long as there is at least 1 ref or umpire on the field you can not count out the Chiefs. lol
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:40:31 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colklink: As long as there is at least 1 ref or umpire on the field you can not count out the Chiefs.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:43:45 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gdirty5: Yet on today's power chart, they put the saints at #6 with KC at #1 My brother in Christ, have you considered that Dallas just isn’t all that good? |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:43:51 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: lol
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Originally Posted By colklink: Originally Posted By Gdirty5: It's true... they always find a way to win. As long as there is at least 1 ref or umpire on the field you can not count out the Chiefs. lol
It’s a conspiracy. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:52:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_: Wow. I have never watched Manningcast. Maybe next week. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_: Originally Posted By RSG: Originally Posted By stampkolektor: i turned off the TV to sleep 15-18 Eagles 1:34 left and went to brush my teeth. I check espn as I am about to sleep and the score as 21-21 lol i had to turn tv back on to rewind and see what happened
Wow. I have never watched Manningcast. Maybe next week. The vast majority of it comes down to who the guests are. If it’s someone who hasn’t played or coached in the NFL, I don’t even bother. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:54:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: Libs are still mad about the whole vaccine thing Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: Originally Posted By David_ESM: Via Forbes: Aaron Rodgers voted NFL's 'Most Annoying Player' Action Network recently polled more than 3,000 football fans and asked a handful of questions, including who is the league's 'Most Annoying Player?' Rodgers, now with the New York Jets, was the runaway winner garnering 27% of the vote. Kansas City tight end Travis Kelce was second with 17% and Miami Dolphins wide receiver Odell Beckham was third at 10%. Rodgers was named 'Most Annoying' by 24 of the NFL's 32 fan bases, including Green Bay's. Kelce was named 'Most Annoying' by the other eight fan bases. Libs are still mad about the whole vaccine thing That’s almost certainly some of it. It damn sure isn’t all of it. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:54:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: It’s a conspiracy. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Originally Posted By colklink: Originally Posted By Gdirty5: It's true... they always find a way to win. As long as there is at least 1 ref or umpire on the field you can not count out the Chiefs. lol
It’s a conspiracy. It's funny how a pile of evidence to the contrary gets overlooked and pretty obvious things get ignored. 
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:56:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colklink: As long as there is at least 1 ref or umpire on the field you can not count out the Chiefs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colklink: Originally Posted By Gdirty5: It's true... they always find a way to win. As long as there is at least 1 ref or umpire on the field you can not count out the Chiefs. Haha, true. If it wasn’t for that factor, the value wouldn’t have been there and I wouldn’t have made the +400 Chiefs in game bet I made. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 10:56:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: The vast majority of it comes down to who the guests are. If it’s someone who hasn’t played or coached in the NFL, I don’t even bother. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Originally Posted By zach_: Originally Posted By RSG: Originally Posted By stampkolektor: i turned off the TV to sleep 15-18 Eagles 1:34 left and went to brush my teeth. I check espn as I am about to sleep and the score as 21-21 lol i had to turn tv back on to rewind and see what happened
Wow. I have never watched Manningcast. Maybe next week. The vast majority of it comes down to who the guests are. If it’s someone who hasn’t played or coached in the NFL, I don’t even bother. I enjoy it in limited doses with the right guest. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 11:00:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: I enjoy it in limited doses with the right guest. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Originally Posted By zach_: Originally Posted By RSG: Originally Posted By stampkolektor: i turned off the TV to sleep 15-18 Eagles 1:34 left and went to brush my teeth. I check espn as I am about to sleep and the score as 21-21 lol i had to turn tv back on to rewind and see what happened
Wow. I have never watched Manningcast. Maybe next week. The vast majority of it comes down to who the guests are. If it’s someone who hasn’t played or coached in the NFL, I don’t even bother. I enjoy it in limited doses with the right guest. I also will pretty much never watch it for a game in which I really care about the outcome and/or is close very late. They can make a boring game more interesting, but they also sometimes get sidetracked while the game plays in the background. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 11:29:38 AM EST
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Posted: 9/17/2024 11:36:04 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: If you can get pressure in his face his throws drop off a cliff That's like saying, "If you can chop the arms off the receivers, they can't catch the ball." No shit. Haven't we said this about every NFL quarterback? |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 11:41:06 AM EST
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lol
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Posted: 9/17/2024 11:43:38 AM EST
[#36]
In 7 of Lamar Jackson's last 10 losses, he had the lead and possession in the last 10 minutes of the game.
The 3 exceptions are 2x vs the Chiefs and 1x vs the Bills. Which means the only way that Lamar and the Ravens have lost is by either: A: Facing elite quarterbacks on winning teams (Chiefs and Bills) B: Choking a lead away List of the 7 losses as well as when they had the ball with what lead:Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 11:44:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: That's like saying, "If you can chop the arms off the receivers, they can't catch the ball." No shit. Haven't we said this about every NFL quarterback? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: Originally Posted By Rebel31: If you can get pressure in his face his throws drop off a cliff That's like saying, "If you can chop the arms off the receivers, they can't catch the ball." No shit. Haven't we said this about every NFL quarterback? Not really? Pressure isn't a good thing for QB play, but there are QBs that vapor lock and get smashed, there are QBs that immediately tuck and run, there are QBs take that last step available in the pocket and either hit the best target they see or throw the ball away, and then there are QBs that scramble around outside the pocket and extend plays before throwing the ball. These are different outcomes that different QBs execute at a different levels. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 11:46:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Not really? Pressure isn't a good thing for QB play, but there are QBs that vapor lock and get smashed, there are QBs that immediately tuck and run, there are QBs take that last step available in the pocket and either hit the best target they see or throw the ball away, and then there are QBs that scramble around outside the pocket and extend plays before throwing the ball. These are different outcomes that different QBs execute at a different levels. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: Originally Posted By Rebel31: If you can get pressure in his face his throws drop off a cliff That's like saying, "If you can chop the arms off the receivers, they can't catch the ball." No shit. Haven't we said this about every NFL quarterback? Not really? Pressure isn't a good thing for QB play, but there are QBs that vapor lock and get smashed, there are QBs that immediately tuck and run, there are QBs take that last step available in the pocket and either hit the best target they see or throw the ball away, and then there are QBs that scramble around outside the pocket and extend plays before throwing the ball. These are different outcomes that different QBs execute at a different levels. Exactly lol |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 11:46:26 AM EST
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Via Penn Live Steelers coverage guy: Mike Tomlin was asked about the 'petty game ball' Russell Wilson got after the Steelers defeated the Broncos. He wouldn't go deeper on it, but gave this quote: "I can't give you all the ingredients to the hot dog. You might not like it."
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Posted: 9/17/2024 11:47:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: fike]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG: lol
The best Belichick isn’t X’s and O’s, but a jilted Belichick spilling dirt on how the business of football and the league works. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 11:47:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: Via Penn Live Steelers coverage guy: Mike Tomlin was asked about the 'petty game ball' Russell Wilson got after the Steelers defeated the Broncos. He wouldn't go deeper on it, but gave this quote: "I can't give you all the ingredients to the hot dog. You might not like it." Wait what. He gave a game ball to the QB who didn't play? |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 11:50:27 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Wait what. He gave a game ball to the QB who didn't play? They call it a "petty game ball" and give one to any former player of a team they just beat |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 11:52:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: David_ESM]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackHoleSon: They call it a "petty game ball" and give one to any former player of a team they just beat "I can't give you all the ingredients to the hot dog. You might not like it." In reference to stuff happening in their locker-room/team dynamics... What the fuck does this even mean? Edit: Made me think of the old bartender in Boondock Saints that always fucks up his analogies. "Why don't you make like a tree, and get the fuck out of here?" |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 11:55:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Not really? Pressure isn't a good thing for QB play, but there are QBs that vapor lock and get smashed, there are QBs that immediately tuck and run, there are QBs take that last step available in the pocket and either hit the best target they see or throw the ball away, and then there are QBs that scramble around outside the pocket and extend plays before throwing the ball. These are different outcomes that different QBs execute at a different levels. I can't think of a QB who was known for doing well when the pass rush was in his face. The comment was football cliche 101. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 12:01:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: It's funny how a pile of evidence to the contrary gets overlooked and pretty obvious things get ignored. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXsI8_eW4AArXwt?format=jpg&name=small You mean like the 2 bengals rushers being held on that last play? Or the ticky tack illegal use of hands on Muholmes 3rd interception? Or like Hendrickson getting choke-held 5 rushes in a row? Hell yeah, that was all missed. Personally, the Bengals should have stopped KC on 4th and 16...they shouldn't have had Anthony, a rookie 7th round CB on the field, either, in that situation. Most Bengals fans are pointing to that and rightly sucking it up. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 12:04:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: Alembic]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Haha, true. If it wasn’t for that factor, the value wouldn’t have been there and I wouldn’t have made the +400 Chiefs in game bet I made. I thought it wasn't a conspiracy?  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 12:11:29 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: Yeah. I don't care about that... "I can't give you all the ingredients to the hot dog. You might not like it." In reference to stuff happening in their locker-room/team dynamics... What the fuck does this even mean? Edit: Made me think of the old bartender in Boondock Saints that always fucks up his analogies. "Why don't you make like a tree, and get the fuck out of here?" As a lifelong Steelers fan I can tell you it's pointless to read into Tomlin's sayings. It's random cliches mixed with a little Yogi Berra |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 12:20:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: David_ESM]
[#48]
Titans RT Nicholas Petit-Frere, who was previously suspended by the league for gambling, who leads the Titans in pressures (11) and sacks (2) allowed, was just announced as the new "Fantasy Expert" for known gambling entity Fantasy Life .
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Posted: 9/17/2024 12:37:04 PM EST
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Posted: 9/17/2024 12:48:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: I can't think of a QB who was known for doing well when the pass rush was in his face. The comment was football cliche 101. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Not really? Pressure isn't a good thing for QB play, but there are QBs that vapor lock and get smashed, there are QBs that immediately tuck and run, there are QBs take that last step available in the pocket and either hit the best target they see or throw the ball away, and then there are QBs that scramble around outside the pocket and extend plays before throwing the ball. These are different outcomes that different QBs execute at a different levels. I can't think of a QB who was known for doing well when the pass rush was in his face. The comment was football cliche 101. All QBs play worse when pressured. But not all QBs have the same outcome when pressured.  The first thing to note here is the scale. The average QB put up just over .2 EPA/play when not pressured and almost -.4 EPA when pressured. The only QB that didn't have a negative EPA value when pressured last season was Jordan Love, but he was barely above 0. Brock Purdy is INSANE when not pressured, but merely above average when pressured. Jimmy G was nearly MVP level when not pressured, but a colossal train wreck when pressured. A less extreme but noteworthy example is Tua. His production was great when not pressured, but poverty tier when pressured. |
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