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Cool, but even on the most optimistic timelines it's going to be a little while until Starship is flying people.
Its going to be really cool to see a Starship with a furnished interior. |
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It’s… probably not as bad as you think it is.
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Nice landing video of the Starlink 10-5 booster. It will be used for Crew-9 in late September 2024.
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Mission: Falcon 9, Starlink 9-5
1) Mission description: "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of 20 Starlink internet, 2) Launch window: 11:33 PM PDT (26 August 2024) 3) Launch site: SLC-4E, Vandenberg Space Force Base, California 4) Launch direction: Southeasterly 5) Webcast viewing options: SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 9-5 - SLC-4E - Vandenberg SFB, CA - August 31, 2024 6) Observation comments: No sunlit jellyfish on this launch. 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out. Lindsay C + OCISLY departed PoLB on Aug 21 @ 2:34pm PT / 5:34pm ET Source: NASASpaceFlight.com Go Beyond departed PoLB on Aug 21 @ 5:02pm PT / 8:02pm ET Source: NASASpaceFlight.com b. Satellites: Previously provided c. Ready for launch: Not found d. Navigation warning: Source: NASASpaceFlight.com 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Recovery on drone ship OCISLY 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:01:07 Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket) 00:02:25 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:28 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:35 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1) 00:03:02 Fairing deployment 00:06:01 1st stage entry burn begins 00:06:27 1st stage entry burn ends 00:07:49 1st stage landing burn begins 00:08:12 1st stage landing 00:08:39 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:52:20 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2) 00:52:21 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2) 00:59:14 Starlink satellites deploy 10) Orbit destination: 283 kilometers perigee x 293 kilometers apogee, 53.16 degree inclination |
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVnAXp5XsAAtWzs?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVnAXp7XsAAPzLc?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVnAXp7XsAMXoox?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVnAXp9XsAQrMto?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 View Quote |
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Fetchez la vache!
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quick video
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Originally Posted By Chokey: quick video
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Scott Manley
SpaceX Astronauts Will Fly Higher Than Any Human Has This Century |
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVnAXp5XsAAtWzs?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVnAXp7XsAAPzLc?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVnAXp7XsAMXoox?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVnAXp9XsAQrMto?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 View Quote |
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NRA Benefactor Life
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The @PolarisProgram mission readiness review just finished and we are currently go for launch in just over 24 hours. Crew safety is absolutely paramount and this mission carries more risk than usual, as it will be the furthest humans have traveled from Earth since Apollo and the first commercial spacewalk! If any concerns arise, the launch will be postponed until those concerns are addressed. |
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But he sure found out the hard way
That dreams don't always come true |
Mission: Falcon 9, Starlink 8-6
1) Mission Description: "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean." SpaceFlightNow source 2) Launch window: 2:54 AM EDT (28 August 2024). 3) Launch site: SLC-40, Florida 4) Launch direction: Northeast 5) Webcast viewing option: SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink Group 8-6 - SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFB - August 28, 2024 6) Observation comments: None. 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out: Signet Warhorse I + JRTI departed PC on Aug 25 @ 7:31am ET Bob departed PC on Aug 25 @ 7:13am ET Source: NASASpaceFlight.com b. Satellites: Previously provided. c. Ready for launch: Not found d. Navigation Warnings: Source: NASASpaceFlight.com 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Recovery on drone ship JRTI. 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:01:10 Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket) 00:02:26 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:30 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:36 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1) 00:02:59 Fairing separation 00:06:13 1st stage entry burn begins 00:06:34 1st stage entry burn ends 00:07:59 1st stage landing burn begins 00:08:21 1st stage landing 00:08:39 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:54:50 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2) 00:54:51 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2) 01:03:44 Starlink satellites deploy 10) Orbit insertion: 285 kilometers (perigee) x 296 kilometers (apogee) at 53 degree inclination |
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Mission: Falcon 9, Polaris Dawn
1) Mission Description: "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Crew Dragon spacecraft. The Polaris Dawn mission will be commanded by billionaire Jared Isaacman, making his second trip to space. He will be joined on the all-private mission by pilot Scott “Kidd” Poteet, and SpaceX employees Sarah Gillis and Anna Menon. The first stage booster B1083 is making its fourth flight and will land on the drone ship “A Shortfall of Gravitas” about nine and a half minutes after launch. The Crew Dragon will return to a splashdown at sea. " SpaceFlightNow source 2) Launch window: 3:38 AM EDT (28 August 2024). 3) Launch site: SLC-39A, Florida 4) Launch direction: Northeast 5) Webcast viewing option: SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Polaris Dawn - LC-39A - KSC - September 10, 2024 6) Observation comments: None. 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out: Signet Warhorse III + ASOG departed PC on Aug 24 @ 5:59pm ET Go Cosmos departed PC on Aug 24 @ 6:34pm ET Source: NASASpaceFlight.com b. Satellites: See Crew Dragon photos above c. Ready for launch: See Crew Dragon photos above d. Navigation Warnings: Source: NASASpaceFlight.com 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Recovery on drone ship ASOG. 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:00:58 Max Q (moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket) 00:02:38 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:42 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:51 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1) 00:07:39 1st stage entry burn starts 00:08:01 1st stage entry burn ends 00:08:59 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:09:11 1st stage landing burn 00:09:35 1st stage landing 00:12:16 Dragon separates from 2nd stage 00:12:58 Dragon nosecone open sequence begins 10) Orbit insertion: 200 kilometer perigee by 1400 kilometer apogee at 51 degree inclination |
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Scrubbed.
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Fetchez la vache!
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SpaceX and the Polaris Program are delaying a launch attempt of the Polaris Dawn mission during launch windows available on both Wednesday and Thursday. SpaceX said it is "due to unfavorable weather forecasted in the Dragon's splashdown areas off the coast of Florida." No new launch date was named, but the National Hurricane Center is tracking some activity in the tropics that is moving towards the Gulf of Mexico. It notes that "an area of low pressure could form over the next few days. This system has a low chance (20% 🟡) of TC formation over the next 7 days." |
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Our launch criteria are heavily constrained by forecasted splashdown weather conditions. With no ISS rendezvous and limited life support consumables, we must be absolutely sure of reentry weather before launching. As of now, conditions are not favorable tonight or tomorrow, so we’ll assess day by day. As Elon mentioned, Polaris Dawn is a challenging mission with critical objectives, so we’ll wait for the best opportunity to ensure success. Sometimes, the hardest journeys require the most patience, and we’re ready to wait for the right moment. We know many have traveled to see the launch, and we’re grateful for your support. Alongside @SpaceX, we’ll do our best to keep you updated. |
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There was extended duration flame from the bottom of the booster after the Starlink 10-6 booster landed.
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Charter Member, Knights of Wonder
Norcal LEO callsign: Hold Fast Team Randstad |
You don't hate the media enough
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But he sure found out the hard way
That dreams don't always come true |
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That sucks about the booster. Was that one the flight leader?
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“Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a 10mm at your side, kid.”
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
View Quote 23rd!!!! Amazing |
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RIP booster 1062.
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Chokey, thanks for providing those updates. They showed up after I went to bed so I was unable to update the information here. It was never clear if they could launch two boosters from Florida within about 30 minutes.
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Originally Posted By AJE: That sucks about the booster. Was that one the flight leader? View Quote 23rd flight. I plan to be at the Port when ASOG comes in to see if there is anything left of it on the deck. Might look something like this. Attached File |
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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Here is the landing and tip over. You can see the flame that I assumed was extended duration although I only saw perhaps two seconds before they cut the feed.
Go to 1:50 time tag in the video. A poster on another forum did a detailed assessment and he stated that it appeared to be a hard landing with one or more engine nozzles contacting the deck. SpaceX Starlink 188 launch and Falcon 9 first stage failed landing, 28 August 2024 |
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Originally Posted By Chokey: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWFXHGFWoAANSiq?format=jpg&name=small View Quote Between a possible hard landing and possible strut failure, I suspect that the investigation will be a short one and that operational flights will resume soon. |
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Originally Posted By Chokey: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWFXHGFWoAANSiq?format=jpg&name=small View Quote I can't wait to see that FAA's investigation of the anomaly when everyone else's boosters go sploosh. |
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"And I never did get my lawnmower back!" - Bandit 6
"On the bright side, the money we saved by not going to Mars in the 1970s, we spent on welfare and public schools." - @MorlockP |
Originally Posted By mPisi: I can't wait to see that FAA's investigation of the anomaly when everyone else's boosters go sploosh. View Quote The FAA won't be running the investigation, SpaceX will complete it and submit the report to the FAA just like they did for the 2nd stage failure a few weeks ago and the first starship launches. |
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FAA grounds SpaceX after fiery landing of uncrewed launch: It may impact Starliner, Polaris Dawn
The mishap involved a rocket booster from an uncrewed SpaceX mission tipping over and exploding early Thursday upon returning to Earth. The failure occurred during a delivery of SpaceX’s Starlink internet satellites into orbit from the Cape Canaveral Space Force Station. The latest FAA grounding could complicate SpaceX’s plans to launch the Polaris Dawn crew aboard one of its SpaceX Dragon capsules, and could imperil the Crew-9 launch if the investigation drags on. Two crucial crewed SpaceX missions could be in jeopardy after federal regulators grounded the company's Falcon 9 rockets to investigate the cause of a fiery landing mishap following a successful Thursday satellite launch. SpaceX has been looking for a viable window to launch four private astronauts into orbit on the Polaris Dawn mission, where the crew hopes to become the first commercial spacefarers to conduct a spacewalk. The launch has already been delayed three times. And next month, two NASA astronauts were scheduled to travel to the International Space Station on Crew-9, a mission that would in February also bring home the Boeing Starliner test crew. Just last week, NASA determined that the Starliner is unsafe to transport astronauts Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore back to Earth following their June arrival at the orbital outpost aboard the Boeing capsule. But the future of both Polaris Dawn and Crew-9 now looks even more uncertain." My opinion: This is fake gloom and doom. First, the cause and remedy are probably easy to identify and fix, especially if only the post-separation return and landing are impacted. Second, there may be an option to continue flights if this issue is not a hazard too people or property...which is highly likely. The investigation can still continue while flights resume. |
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople: there may be an option to continue flights if this issue is not a hazard too people or property...which is highly likely. The investigation can still continue while flights resume. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople: FAA grounds SpaceX after fiery landing of uncrewed launch: It may impact Starliner, Polaris Dawn The mishap involved a rocket booster from an uncrewed SpaceX mission tipping over and exploding early Thursday upon returning to Earth. The failure occurred during a delivery of SpaceX’s Starlink internet satellites into orbit from the Cape Canaveral Space Force Station. The latest FAA grounding could complicate SpaceX’s plans to launch the Polaris Dawn crew aboard one of its SpaceX Dragon capsules, and could imperil the Crew-9 launch if the investigation drags on. Two crucial crewed SpaceX missions could be in jeopardy after federal regulators grounded the company's Falcon 9 rockets to investigate the cause of a fiery landing mishap following a successful Thursday satellite launch. SpaceX has been looking for a viable window to launch four private astronauts into orbit on the Polaris Dawn mission, where the crew hopes to become the first commercial spacefarers to conduct a spacewalk. The launch has already been delayed three times. And next month, two NASA astronauts were scheduled to travel to the International Space Station on Crew-9, a mission that would in February also bring home the Boeing Starliner test crew. Just last week, NASA determined that the Starliner is unsafe to transport astronauts Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore back to Earth following their June arrival at the orbital outpost aboard the Boeing capsule. But the future of both Polaris Dawn and Crew-9 now looks even more uncertain." My opinion: This is fake gloom and doom. First, the cause and remedy are probably easy to identify and fix, especially if only the post-separation return and landing are impacted. Second, there may be an option to continue flights if this issue is not a hazard too people or property...which is highly likely. The investigation can still continue while flights resume. View Quote Why would they be grounded? If anything delay any RTLS if upcoming... maybe ground any booster that's been used more than 20 times.... SpaceX basically is pushing their landings to the failure point on purpose to see how many stress cycles these can put up with. |
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The wild part of this to me is that the failed landing was just that, an unmanned landing... in the ocean... near no one.
NASA just drops the boosters in the ocean. |
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