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Somebody needs to clean the camera lenses.
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nailed'em
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One more to go!
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Never gets old.
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“Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a 10mm at your side, kid.”
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Watched from my office from St. Aug. It went straight into the sun, but still had a good show. Saw the booster entry burns, too.
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foggy here, didn't see it.. took a while but heard it.
heard both boosters return sonic booms. |
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A wise man gets more use from his enemies than a fool from his friends.
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Watching those twin boosters light the fires and touchdown never gets old!
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Originally Posted By Chokey: weird that the SpaceX stream is delayed on their webcast compared to the NSF stream watching the SpaceX stream. View Quote I turn the webcasts and news radio off for launches because of the 1-2 minute delays. It's annoying as fuck ! The fog never really cleared out, caught the stack going up for maybe 30 seconds after it cleared the fog and another layer obscured the rest. Could not see the boosters returning, but 2 sets of double sonic booms was very cool. |
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They're going to recover the fairing halves. Will they try to get the center core too? Seems like I remember they towed one in before.
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Originally Posted By Jack_Rackham: They're going to recover the fairing halves. Will they try to get the center core too? Seems like I remember they towed one in before. View Quote they had a problem with a booster that was supposed to RTLS but some failure caused it to to splashdown just off the coast, then they towed it back in. from CRS-16 in 2018
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For decades we couldn't get into space quickly or cheaply. Missions had to be designed around the limitations of the rockets that existed.
Falcon 9 has blown the doors off of that and correct me if I'm wrong, the reason why it's been so long between Falcon Heavy flights is because there wasn't a customer that needed its capabilities. If that is so then we finally have room to grow. We can put whatever we like into space that fits into a F9 fairing whenever we want. I couldn't be happier with this. All I can ask at this point is that Rocket Lab's Neutron proves to be half as good as F9. Well... That and we don't have a nuclear war or some other disaster that effectively ends orbital class rocket launches for a good long time. |
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All great change in America begins at the dinner table.
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Wow, the video from the higher booster, showing the other one landing is crazy. Really shows how fast they come in and absolutely slam on the brakes with the retro landing burn.
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I'm curious about details of how the boosters return to ground. They use three engines to do it. They don't have any conventional wing structure but it looks like they have to reverse course and travel westward a significant distance to return. Do they fly nose first on the return then do a 180 to land on their tails right-side up? How do they maintain correct position? It's very impressive!
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Originally Posted By Furloaf: Wow, the video from the higher booster, showing the other one landing is crazy. Really shows how fast they come in and absolutely slam on the brakes with the retro landing burn. View Quote If this was easy someone would have done it in the early 80s. As is often said though, they sure do make it look easy. |
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Originally Posted By jpcdmd: I'm curious about details of how the boosters return to ground. They use three engines to do it. They don't have any conventional wing structure but it looks like they have to reverse course and travel westward a significant distance to return. Do they fly nose first on the return then do a 180 to land on their tails right-side up? How do they maintain correct position? It's very impressive! View Quote Main engines, cold gas thrusters, and grid fins for control. Attached File |
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Mission: Hotbird 13G
1) Background info: Source "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Hotbird 13G television broadcasting satellite for Eutelsat. Hotbird 13G is the second satellite to be built on Airbus’s new Eurostar Neo all-electric spacecraft design, and will provide television broadcast services to Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean. " 2) Launch window: 11:26 PM EDT (2 November 2022) - 1:22 AM EDT (3 November 2022) 3) Launch Site: SLC-40, Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida 4) Launch direction: East 5) Webcast viewing options: a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 15 minutes before liftoff) b. You Tube Eutelsat HOTBIRD 13G Mission 6) Observation comments: Cape Canaveral sunset is at 6:37 PM EDT. The launch time is such that the ascent is not sunlit...so no jellyfish effect. However the launch should be easier to see at night for locations further away. For some close enough locations, I would also look for the re-entry and landing burns. Both might require binoculars...although some have reported seeing the re-entry burn from near the launch site, presumably without binoculars. 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out. Video at this link Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore. Departure! Just Read the Instructions droneship is outbound to support the Hotbird-13G mission. Tug Crosby Skipper is towing JRTI ~670 km downrange, due east of SLC-40. Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore. Bob departed Port Canaveral earlier today to support the Hotbird-13G mission on Wednesday night. JRTI left a few days ago. Clip via http://nsf.live/spacecoast b. Satellite: The hotbird 13F satellite after ground testing (Credit: ESA). Reportedly 13G is identical. c. Ready for launch: Source d. Navigation warning: 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Drone ship JRTI recovery 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:02:32 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:35 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:43 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1) 00:03:23 Fairing deployment 00:06:30 1st stage entry burn begins 00:06:55 1st stage entry burn completes 00:08:08 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO) 00:08:22 1st stage landing burn begins 00:08:44 1st stage landing 00:29:11 2nd stage engine restarts (SES-2) 00:30:10 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2) 00:36:11 Eutelsat HOTBIRD 13G deploys 10) Orbit destination: Geosynchronous transfer orbit with satellite performing maneuvers to reach geosynchronous orbit. |
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Fuck Cancer. Love you Pop.
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Vid of Heavy's boosters landing:
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God's grace is not cheap; it's free.
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Originally Posted By M-1975: Vid of Heavy's boosters landing:
View Quote Anyone know where that location is? I'm sure its easy to find by searching for lighthouses. |
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Originally Posted By RyanEsstac: Anyone know where that location is? I'm sure its easy to find by searching for lighthouses. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RyanEsstac: Originally Posted By M-1975: Vid of Heavy's boosters landing:
Anyone know where that location is? I'm sure its easy to find by searching for lighthouses. it's the Cape Canaveral Lighthouse, about 1.75 miles from the LZ. 28°27'37.23"N 80°32'36.51"W |
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Originally Posted By RyanEsstac: Anyone know where that location is? I'm sure its easy to find by searching for lighthouses. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RyanEsstac: Originally Posted By M-1975: Vid of Heavy's boosters landing:
Anyone know where that location is? I'm sure its easy to find by searching for lighthouses.
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God's grace is not cheap; it's free.
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Originally Posted By Hesperus: For decades we couldn't get into space quickly or cheaply. Missions had to be designed around the limitations of the rockets that existed. Falcon 9 has blown the doors off of that and correct me if I'm wrong, the reason why it's been so long between Falcon Heavy flights is because there wasn't a customer that needed its capabilities. If that is so then we finally have room to grow. We can put whatever we like into space that fits into a F9 fairing whenever we want. I couldn't be happier with this. All I can ask at this point is that Rocket Lab's Neutron proves to be half as good as F9. Well... That and we don't have a nuclear war or some other disaster that effectively ends orbital class rocket launches for a good long time. View Quote This is sort of true, but also not really true. Falcon 9 Heavy has more payload capacity than the Falcon 9, so it can take heavier payloads, but it has the same payload fairing, so it can't take BIGGER payloads. There aren't a lot of payloads that are too heavy for Falcon 9, but still fit. Hence, the heavy version has few customers. |
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: Main engines, cold gas thrusters, and grid fins for control. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/86377/476ACF6E-F221-435B-97FE-49273E505698_jpe-2584074.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: Originally Posted By jpcdmd: I'm curious about details of how the boosters return to ground. They use three engines to do it. They don't have any conventional wing structure but it looks like they have to reverse course and travel westward a significant distance to return. Do they fly nose first on the return then do a 180 to land on their tails right-side up? How do they maintain correct position? It's very impressive! Main engines, cold gas thrusters, and grid fins for control. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/86377/476ACF6E-F221-435B-97FE-49273E505698_jpe-2584074.JPG I can't wait to see the ones on Starship Heavy in action. SH Heavys' on the left. |
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Originally Posted By JoseCuervo: I can't wait to see the ones on Starship Heavy in action. https://i.imgur.com/QQ8Lp6m.gif SH Heavy's on the left. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExLBzf6U8AEiyza?format=jpg&name=small View Quote When can we expect SH flights? That's what I really want to see. |
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KF7WNX If you want a picture of the future, imagine Clownshoes stomping on a human face—for ever.
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Originally Posted By elcope: When can we expect SH flights? That's what I really want to see. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By JoseCuervo: I can't wait to see the ones on Starship Heavy in action. https://i.imgur.com/QQ8Lp6m.gif SH Heavy's on the left. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExLBzf6U8AEiyza?format=jpg&name=small When can we expect SH flights? That's what I really want to see.
I hope he's right but I think more like Jan. |
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Anyone know why the center center booster was not recovered? They said during the launch they will not be recovering it but did not say why.
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Originally Posted By The_Syndicate: Anyone know why the center center booster was not recovered? They said during the launch they will not be recovering it but did not say why. View Quote The fuel required to get the payload into its orbit was too much. As a result the central core didn't have enough to make a controlled reentry and landing. |
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Webcast is beginning.
Jessie Anderson! |
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T- 2 minutes
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Good video of the first stage landing.
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Aimless: "F@ck that. If my kid was sitting on the floor I would launch my wife at the teacher like a hawk on a rabbit!"
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"The difference between robbery and charity is consent."
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I wonder if anyone was able to see the re-entry and landing burns from land.
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Excellent view of payload separation with Earth in the background.
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Originally Posted By Mike_c130: This is sort of true, but also not really true. Falcon 9 Heavy has more payload capacity than the Falcon 9, so it can take heavier payloads, but it has the same payload fairing, so it can't take BIGGER payloads. There aren't a lot of payloads that are too heavy for Falcon 9, but still fit. Hence, the heavy version has few customers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mike_c130: Originally Posted By Hesperus: For decades we couldn't get into space quickly or cheaply. Missions had to be designed around the limitations of the rockets that existed. Falcon 9 has blown the doors off of that and correct me if I'm wrong, the reason why it's been so long between Falcon Heavy flights is because there wasn't a customer that needed its capabilities. If that is so then we finally have room to grow. We can put whatever we like into space that fits into a F9 fairing whenever we want. I couldn't be happier with this. All I can ask at this point is that Rocket Lab's Neutron proves to be half as good as F9. Well... That and we don't have a nuclear war or some other disaster that effectively ends orbital class rocket launches for a good long time. This is sort of true, but also not really true. Falcon 9 Heavy has more payload capacity than the Falcon 9, so it can take heavier payloads, but it has the same payload fairing, so it can't take BIGGER payloads. There aren't a lot of payloads that are too heavy for Falcon 9, but still fit. Hence, the heavy version has few customers. Well, it's not so much a matter that customers using FH have heavier payload, it's really more a matter of needing the payload somewhere other than LEO. All that extra delta-V is damn important if you're going GEO or interplanetary. |
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Originally Posted By elcope: When can we expect SH flights? That's what I really want to see. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By JoseCuervo: I can't wait to see the ones on Starship Heavy in action. https://i.imgur.com/QQ8Lp6m.gif SH Heavy's on the left. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExLBzf6U8AEiyza?format=jpg&name=small When can we expect SH flights? That's what I really want to see. Supposedly sometime in Dec now (according to the boss). FWIW. |
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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Originally Posted By Dagger41: It also didn't have landing legs installed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dagger41: Originally Posted By Mike_c130: The fuel required to get the payload into its orbit was too much. As a result the central core didn't have enough to make a controlled reentry and landing. It also didn't have landing legs installed. It didn't have gridfins either as they aren't going to install landing hardware on a booster that isn't going to be recovered for both mass for coat savings. The NASA spaceflight webcast said the next two FH launches are also going to expend the center core. They also mentioned another consideration was the fact that space x only has two drone ships on the east coast so it was not possible to recover all three boosters at sea. The FH launch profile has to be conducive for a side booster RTLS for the center booster to even have a possibility of recovery. |
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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1) Landing zone wide angle video of both Falcon Heavy side boosters landing
Credit may be to Stephen Marr 2) Jenny Hautmann needed better camera securing to the ground
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople: 1) Landing zone wide angle video of both Falcon Heavy side boosters landing <snip> View Quote Holy shit! That was a cool clip!!! |
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I knew they came in fast, but holy shit..
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Seriously... unTex the Mex..
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