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Posted: 10/14/2023 3:50:58 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Wow, what was the time elapsed between launches? Falcon Heavy from SLC-39A at 10:19 AM EDT and Falcon 9 from SLC-40 at 7:01 PM EDT. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/14/2023 3:53:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rustler: Here's what it looked like. Video isn't blurry, the light was just blurry and foggy looking. I thought it was a plane coming through low clouds at first but then quickly realized there were no clouds. Look at it shooting stuff out in front of it https://i.imgur.com/vSZIqWc.gif Approximate location and date/time are needed. Include time zone. Approximate location along the horizon (southwest, etc) and elevation above horizon. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/14/2023 3:56:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rustler: It was the second stage burn. Very cool  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B65Swo9UXcIt was not a second stage burn. It was the venting of unused propellants from the second stage after the deorbit burn occurred probably over the Pacific Ocean. This may have been my first prediction of this event of an earlier launch. This is the path as seen from Dallas, TX Here is the ground track: Here are the appropriate times of launch events. From Texas (CDT) the launch was 6:01 PM CDT so the last second stage burn was around 6:55 PM CDT and the satellites were deployed around 7:06 PM CDT. The pass as seen from the Dallas area was around 7:36 PM CDT. Events are time after launch in HH:MM:SS format. 00:08:39 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:53:58 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2) 00:53:59 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2) 01:05:06 Starlink satellites deploy |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2023 6:18:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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Mission: Falcon 9, Starlink 6-23
1) Mission Description: "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean." SpaceFlightNow source 2) Launch: 8:39 PM EDT (17 October 2023). 3) Launch Site: SLC-40, Florida 4) Launch direction: Southeast 5) Webcast viewing option: Look for a livestream here. 6) Observation comments: Second stage post-deorbit burn venting of excess propellant may be visible in parts of TX, NM, AZ, CO, UT, CA and OR. I will post a link when I get a useable prediction. 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out.  Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore. As the sun sets on a beautiful evening at Cape Canaveral, JRTI droneship is underway to support Starlink 6-23 on Tuesday. Tug Signet Titan is towing. b. Satellites: Previously provided. c. Ready for launch:  A Falcon 9 rocket supporting the Starlink 6-23 mission was brought upright Tuesday afternoon ahead of the 7:52 pm ET (2352 UTC) launch time. The fourth segment of SpaceX’s new crew and cargo tower is another new addition to the pad at Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station. Image: Adam Bernstein d. Navigation Warning:  Source: NASASpaceFlight.com 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Recover on drone ship JRTI. 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:01:12 Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket) 00:02:24 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:28 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:34 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1) 00:03:05 Fairing deployment 00:06:08 1st stage entry burn begins 00:06:32 1st stage entry burn ends 00:08:07 1st stage landing burn begins 00:08:28 1st stage landing 00:08:34 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:53:59 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2) 00:54:01 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2) 01:05:17 Starlink satellites deploy 10) Orbit insertion: 284 x 293 kilometers at 43 degree inclination |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/18/2023 9:28:55 AM EDT
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The Starlink 6-23 launch was successful.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/20/2023 2:57:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
[#6]
Mission: Falcon 9, Starlink 7-5
1) Mission description: "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink Version 2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Pacific Ocean." Source 2) Launch window: 12:47 AM PDT (21 October 2023). If needed, three backup opportunities are available starting at 1:23 a.m. PT until 3:00 a.m. PT. 3) Launch site: SLC-4E, Vandenberg Space Force Base, California 4) Launch direction: South-southeasterly 5) Webcast viewing options: NSF. Click on the link then look for the upcoming launch 6) Observation comments: None 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out.  Scorpius + OCISLY departed PoLB on Oct 18 @ 6:09pm PT / 9:09pm ET Source: NASASpaceFlight.com b. Satellites: See previous Starlink discussions. c. Ready for launch: d. Navigation warning:  Source: NASASpaceFlight.com 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Drone ship OCISLY 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:01:12 Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket) 00:02:25 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:29 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:35 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1) 00:03:03 Fairing deployment 00:06:18 1st stage entry burn begins 00:06:41 1st stage entry burn ends 00:08:08 1st stage landing burn begins 00:08:30 1st stage landing 00:08:38 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:53:32 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2) 00:53:34 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2) 01:02:35 Starlink satellites deploy 10) Orbit destination: 286 x 296 kilometers, 53 degree inclination |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/21/2023 2:41:00 PM EDT
[#7]
The Starlink 7-5 launch was a success.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/21/2023 2:44:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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Mission: Falcon 9, Starlink 6-24
1) Mission Description: "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean." SpaceFlightNow source 2) Launch: 10:17 PM EDT (21 October 2023) 3) Launch site: SLC-40, Florida 4) Launch direction: Southeast 5) Webcast viewing option: Look for a livestream here.  SpaceX Falcon 9 Launches Starlink 6-24 Mission 6) Observation comments: 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out.  Crosby Skipper + ASOG departed PC on Oct 18 @ 5:03pm ET Source: NASASpaceFlight.com b. Satellites: Previously provided. c. Ready for launch: d. Navigation Warning:  Source: NASASpaceFlight.com 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Recover on drone ship ASOG. 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:01:12 Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket) 00:02:30 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:34 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:39 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1) 00:03:12 Fairing deployment 00:06:12 1st stage entry burn begins 00:06:28 1st stage entry burn ends 00:08:01 1st stage landing burn begins 00:08:22 1st stage landing 00:08:43 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:54:10 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2) 00:54:13 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2) 01:05:29 Starlink satellites deploy 10) Orbit insertion: 284 x 293 kilometers at 43 degree inclination |
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Posted: 10/21/2023 10:26:57 PM EDT
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Another perfect landing.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 10/22/2023 12:38:33 AM EDT
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Caught if from the pool deck at my parents place:
 Didn’t realize there was a launch tonight, happened to catch something out of the corner of my eye while we were all watching a movie. Pretty neat stuff. 
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/22/2023 9:07:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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Start looking at T+8:00 in the following video
[tweet]https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1YqJDgWXyyEGV[/tweet] |
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Posted: 10/25/2023 10:09:37 PM EDT
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/26/2023 9:50:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: The British government bought a Crew Dragon flight. It sounds like a trip to the ISS which on Axiom flights has to be commanded by a former NASA astronaut. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/27/2023 6:08:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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Mission: Falcon 9, Starlink 7-6
1) Mission description: "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink Version 2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Pacific Ocean." Source 2) Launch window: 2:00 AM PDT (29 October 2023) 3) Launch site: SLC-4E, Vandenberg Space Force Base, California 4) Launch direction: South southeasterly 5) Webcast viewing options: NSF. Click on the link then look for the upcoming launch  Launch Pad Live: Starship / Falcon 9 / Falcon Heavy 6) Observation comments: None 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out.  Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore. Of Course I Still Love You droneship is underway from California to support the upcoming Starlink 7-6 launch from VSFB. b. Satellites: See previous Starlink discussions. c. Ready for launch: d. Navigation warning:  Source: NASASpaceFlight.com 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Drone ship OCISLY 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:01:12 Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket) 00:02:25 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:29 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:35 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1) 00:03:03 Fairing deployment 00:06:18 1st stage entry burn begins 00:06:38 1st stage entry burn ends 00:08:07 1st stage landing burn begins 00:08:30 1st stage landing 00:08:38 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:53:36 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2) 00:53:38 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2) 01:02:39 Starlink satellites deploy 10) Orbit destination: 286 x 297 kilometers, 53 degree inclination |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/29/2023 9:23:33 AM EDT
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The Starlink 7-6 launch was successful.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/29/2023 9:25:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
[#16]
Mission: Falcon 9, Starlink 6-25
1) Mission description: "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean." SpaceFlightNow source 2) Launch time: 7:20 PM EDT (30 October 2023). If needed, seven backup opportunities are available starting at 7:46 p.m. ET until 10:22 p.m. ET. 3) Launch site: SLC-40, Florida 4) Launch direction: Southeast 5) Webcast viewing options: a. Look for a livestream here. It may not exist for each launch. b. This is a twitter link that requires sign-in c. Space Affairs youtube link:  SpaceX Falcon 9 Launches Starlink 6-25 Mission 6) Observation comments: Jellyfish alert. Timing may be good. Jellyfish effect may not appear until the rocket has risen substantially so possibly only once the second stage has lit. I would still look for first stage thruster firings after separation as the first stage ascends to its apogee. Sunset: 6:40 PM, Civil Twilight: 7:04 PM, Nautical Twilight: 7:32 PM, Astronautical Twilight: 7:59 PM. All times EDT. Details on seeing the Post deorbit propellant venting observation in Texas, NM is located here 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out.  Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore. Just Read the Instructions droneship is underway from Port Canaveral to support Starlink 6-25. Tug Signet Titan towing.  Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore. Departure! Bob is outbound from Port Canaveral to support Starlink 6-25. The forecast suggests it'll be a bumpy ride. JRTI got underway yesterday. Source: NASASpaceFlight.com b. Satellites: Previously provided. c. Ready for launch:  Source: NASASpaceFlight.com d. Navigation Warning:  Source: NASASpaceFlight.com 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Recover on drone ship JRTI. 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:01:12 Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket) 00:02:26 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:29 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:35 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1) 00:03:05 Fairing deployment 00:06:12 1st stage entry burn begins 00:06:32 1st stage entry burn ends 00:08:05 1st stage landing burn begins 00:08:26 1st stage landing 00:08:39 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:54:09 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2) 00:54:11 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2) 01:05:38 Starlink satellites deploy 10) Orbit insertion: 284 x 293 kilometers at 43 degree inclination |
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Posted: 10/29/2023 9:27:15 AM EDT
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Please please please be on time with clear skies !!!
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Posted: 10/29/2023 9:50:49 AM EDT
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I might try to get a photo of it tonight.. last three times I tried have been fairly successful
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Posted: 10/29/2023 1:25:01 PM EDT
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It's ridiculous how routine this system has gotten.
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Posted: 10/29/2023 2:09:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stillnothere: It's ridiculous how routine this system has gotten. I love it, as I keep saying. Falcon 9 has become the long sought "Space Truck." I wonder though how things would be if not for these regular Starlink launches. From what I've seen the rest of the aerospace community has to do some work to catch up to Falcon 9 and Heavys capabilities. We can put very heavy payloads into geostationary orbit relatively easily now. We can shoot something like DART off into the cosmos to intercept an incoming rock. We can do all this and much more with Falcon. Imagine how things will change once Starship, Neutron and perhaps even New Glenn are flying. |
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Posted: 10/29/2023 3:42:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: klinc]
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Thinking about taking a bike ride that direction in an hour or so.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/29/2023 6:08:13 PM EDT
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Tonight's launch will mark the 200th reflight of a Falcon 9 first stage; not counting FH cores.
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Posted: 10/29/2023 7:06:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: klinc]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By klinc: Thinking about taking a bike ride that direction in an hour or so. Rode over. Found a nice little park on the water south end of town. VAB just to the right of the moon.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/29/2023 8:16:54 PM EDT
[#24]
This should be interesting with moon rising.
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Posted: 10/29/2023 8:19:54 PM EDT
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Scrub.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/29/2023 8:20:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
[#26]
Abort and scrub for tonight.
Second stage pusher issue. |
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Posted: 10/29/2023 9:56:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: klinc]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanPeople: Abort and scrub for tonight. Second stage pusher issue. . It was my fault. I decided to ride 90miles to Titusville to watch it. 
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Posted: 10/30/2023 10:24:39 AM EDT
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The boat launch where I went was full of people last night.. once scrubbed, they didn't waste any time getting out of there
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Posted: 10/30/2023 10:45:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By klinc: . It was my fault. I decided to ride 90miles to Titusville to watch it. oof! I feel less bad about standing on my front porch last night disappointed about the scrub
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Posted: 10/30/2023 7:44:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2023 7:45:51 PM EDT
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/1/2023 11:18:55 AM EDT
[#32]
 The Falcon 9 second stage leaves a spectacular plume in the sky as it climbs to orbit. The separated payload fairing halves are visible as two bright dots. Image: Michael Cain/Spaceflight Now. |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 7:39:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2023 8:13:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Hadrian]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/3/2023 8:03:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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Mission: Falcon 9, Starlink 6-26
1) Mission description: "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean." SpaceFlightNow source 2) Launch time: 3) Launch site: SLC-40, Florida 4) Launch direction: Southeast 5) Webcast viewing options: a. Look for a livestream here. It may not exist for each launch. b. Space Affairs:  SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink Group 6-26- SLC-40 - CCSFS - November 4, 2023 6) Observation comments: Observers in the US southwest may be ale to see the post deorbit burn propellant dump. That discussion is here. 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out.  Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore. Departure! A Shortfall of Gravitas SpaceX droneship is heading to sea to support Starlink 6-26. Tug Crosby Skipper is towing.  Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore. Departure! SpaceX Support ship Doug is underway from Port Canaveral to support Starlink 6-26. Source: NASASpaceFlight.com b. Satellites: Previously provided. c. Ready for launch: Not found d. Navigation warning:  Source: NASASpaceFlight.com 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Recover on drone ship JRTI. 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:01:12 Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket) 00:02:26 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:29 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:35 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1) 00:03:05 Fairing deployment 00:06:12 1st stage entry burn begins 00:06:32 1st stage entry burn ends 00:08:05 1st stage landing burn begins 00:08:27 1st stage landing 00:08:39 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:54:05 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2) 00:54:08 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2) 01:05:24 Starlink satellites deploy 10) Orbit insertion: 285 x 293 kilometers at 43 degree inclination |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 8:18:04 PM EDT
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/3/2023 8:49:37 PM EDT
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Another good first stage landing on a drone ship.
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Posted: 11/3/2023 8:51:20 PM EDT
[#38]
Caught it !
Thought it was going to be a scrub so it caught us off guard. Just saw MECO and the second stage light off. Heard it though. LOL |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 8:54:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MrHold]
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That was one of the longest down range views I have ever seen
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Posted: 11/3/2023 9:02:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrHold: That was one of the longest down range views I have ever seen You probably saw it better than we did here. The closer to the launch, the quicker it gets out of sight. |
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Posted: 11/4/2023 9:13:08 PM EDT
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A historic Falcon 9 made a little more history Friday night
CAPE CANAVERAL, Florida—In three-and-a-half years of service, one of SpaceX's reusable Falcon 9 boosters stands apart from the rest of the company's rocket inventory. This booster, designated with the serial number B1058, has now flown 18 times. Pretty cool. |
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Posted: 11/4/2023 9:39:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/4/2023 9:44:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SparticleBrane: A historic Falcon 9 made a little more history Friday night Pretty cool. Beat me to posting that, and yes very cool. I hope it makes past 20 or 30. |
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Posted: 11/6/2023 6:57:02 PM EDT
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new crew access arm for SLC-40
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2023 8:26:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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Mission: Falcon 9, Starlink 6-27
1) Mission description: "A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch another batch of Starlink V2 Mini internet satellites. The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean." SpaceFlightNow source 2) Launch time: 3) Launch site: SLC-40, Florida 4) Launch direction: Southeast 5) Webcast viewing options: Look for a livestream here. It may not exist for each launch. Click on the "Watch" box. No guarantee that it works.  SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink Group 6-27 - SLC-40 - CCSFS - November 8, 2023  Launch of Starlink 6-27 6) Observation comments: None 7) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out.  Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore. 12 hours later... JRTI droneship has been unloaded, completed turnaround, and is back to sea to support the upcoming Starlink 6-27. Tug Signet Titan towing. Source: NASASpaceFlight.com b. Satellites: Previously provided. c. Ready for launch:  SpaceX photo d. Navigation warning:  Source: NASASpaceFlight.com 8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal: Recover on drone ship JRTI. 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off. Times approximate. 00:01:12 Max Q (Moment of peak mechanical stress on the rocket) 00:02:25 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:28 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:34 2nd stage engine starts (SES-1) 00:03:06 Fairing deployment 00:06:06 1st stage entry burn begins 00:06:28 1st stage entry burn ends 00:07:52 1st stage landing burn begins 00:08:23 1st stage landing 00:08:39 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1) 00:53:19 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2) 00:53:22 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2) 01:04:49 Starlink satellites deploy 10) Orbit insertion: 285 x 293 kilometers at 43 degree inclination |
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Posted: 11/7/2023 11:30:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/7/2023 11:51:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/8/2023 12:15:44 AM EDT
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Pretty cool they're planning on such a fast launch cadence.
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Posted: 11/8/2023 12:45:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SparticleBrane: Pretty cool they're planning on such a fast launch cadence. On the other hand, I hope their employees are not being pushed so hard that they start to miss things or cut corners. Its a valid concern. As much as I love SpaceX I couldn't ever see myself working there for 2 reasons. One being a severe lack of valid training and certifications. The other being that it is a famously brutal company to work for. Like family, vacations, weekends, all out the window for as long as you chose to work there. |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 1:15:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Its a valid concern. As much as I love SpaceX I couldn't ever see myself working there for 2 reasons. One being a severe lack of valid training and certifications. The other being that it is a famously brutal company to work for. Like family, vacations, weekends, all out the window for as long as you chose to work there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Originally Posted By SparticleBrane: Pretty cool they're planning on such a fast launch cadence. On the other hand, I hope their employees are not being pushed so hard that they start to miss things or cut corners. Its a valid concern. As much as I love SpaceX I couldn't ever see myself working there for 2 reasons. One being a severe lack of valid training and certifications. The other being that it is a famously brutal company to work for. Like family, vacations, weekends, all out the window for as long as you chose to work there. Most just go down the road when they get burned out. Rocket just launched a few minutes ago. |
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