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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople: Best thing to do is just take Musk's predictions as "notional." He is doing great with Falcon 9, Crew Dragon, Cargo Dragon. Starship/Super Heavy booster will take time. There will be lots of failures. Probably lots of deaths. Mainly because he seems to like suicide maneuvers just prior to landing with no real-time backup. View Quote Falcon 9 booster has little choice but to "suicide burn" as it cannot hover. Can't throttle down enough to make 1:1 thrust to weight. |
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Never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose—with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be. - Adm James Stockdale
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No surprise. He drops in, stirs up shit, and bails out.
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Nou ani Anquietas. Hic qua videum.
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Originally Posted By Dagger41: Still waiting on Zero G flight test data from any Starship, let alone returning from an altitude higher than a 737 can fly and safely landing. Then there is MaxQ, how many TPS tiles are they going to lose if it ever gets to that point ? And now Elon want's to scrap the idea of a re-useable booster/2nd stage because he has 'get there itis' for half an orbit ? None of those plans are remotely close to his initial claims, scrapping things like landing gear and reusability have gone out the window. The point is, he's got to get that stuff off the ground and return it safely before he starts hauling the mail. And he is overdue and once again under delivering. Don't see any of his pipe dreams happening this year, maybe not even next year. He's too far behind. View Quote laughing compilation Goddamn, you are so butthurt |
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Originally Posted By Dagger41: Landing isn't important ? That's his whole "I'm better than everybody else because reusability" schitck. So far his whole Starship program has not demonstrated anything close to that. But he keeps telling everybody that, but what's the point ? The guy would be in a much better light if he told everybody the truth. I love his F9 success, but so far his Starship endeavors have fallen short of his promises. View Quote Do you even have enough mental horsepower to wrap your head around how a fast iterative development process works? They haven't given up on landing, they are performing soft virtual landings over the water to make sure the system works first. Your posts are full of hysterical nonsense. |
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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman: Do you even have enough mental horsepower to wrap your head around how a fast iterative development process works? They haven't given up on landing, they are performing soft virtual landings over the water to make sure the system works first. Your posts are full of hysterical nonsense. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Neotopiaman: Originally Posted By Dagger41: Landing isn't important ? That's his whole "I'm better than everybody else because reusability" schitck. So far his whole Starship program has not demonstrated anything close to that. But he keeps telling everybody that, but what's the point ? The guy would be in a much better light if he told everybody the truth. I love his F9 success, but so far his Starship endeavors have fallen short of his promises. Do you even have enough mental horsepower to wrap your head around how a fast iterative development process works? They haven't given up on landing, they are performing soft virtual landings over the water to make sure the system works first. Your posts are full of hysterical nonsense. I believe the technical term is "TurboKaren." |
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Nou ani Anquietas. Hic qua videum.
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Wow, the purse swinging!
The GD launch complex is not even built yet and Starship is a failure all the sudden? Yea, OK. Attached File Enough with the Bezos Ball guzzling in the thread please. |
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Originally Posted By Dagger41: Landing isn't important ? That's his whole "I'm better than everybody else because reusability" schitck. So far his whole Starship program has not demonstrated anything close to that. But he keeps telling everybody that, but what's the point ? The guy would be in a much better light if he told everybody the truth. I love his F9 success, but so far his Starship endeavors have fallen short of his promises. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dagger41: Originally Posted By Obo2: where did reusability go out the window? cause they are choosing not to try it for a test flight? they showed it can land at terminal velocity, why risk a breakup over a populated area? don't need legs with a giant fucking robot crane to catch it. Get there itis is being able to launch 100 tons in to leo. landing is not as important. Landing isn't important ? That's his whole "I'm better than everybody else because reusability" schitck. So far his whole Starship program has not demonstrated anything close to that. But he keeps telling everybody that, but what's the point ? The guy would be in a much better light if he told everybody the truth. I love his F9 success, but so far his Starship endeavors have fallen short of his promises. Lol are you nuts? How many falcons did spaceX blow up before they started landing them reliably. So far starship has has 3-4 grain silos with flaps as test vehicles. 1 actually landed. 1 almost landed perfectly too. Pretty good for the infancy of a new engine, flight profile, and design. |
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Originally Posted By RyanEsstac: Lol are you nuts? How many falcons did spaceX blow up before they started landing them reliably. So far starship has has 3-4 grain silos with flaps as test vehicles. 1 actually landed. 1 almost landed perfectly too. Pretty good for the infancy of a new engine, flight profile, and design. View Quote I just don't buy in to Musks koolaid, the guy is full of broken promises. "This is the final design of Starship" comes to mind. As well as his launch timelines, 2 weeks becomes 2 months, 2 months become 2 years. I believe the entire Starship program is headed for disaster because of his "get there itis" attitude that has now become a shell of his lofty claims. What's he going to do next, strip it of the TPS to get it to fly for a photo op so he can continue patting himself on the back ? But it is, after all, his money and he can burn through it as fast as Starship is going to burn up in the atmosphere (if it ever gets high enough to deorbit). |
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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Originally Posted By Dagger41: I just don't buy in to Musks koolaid, the guy is full of broken promises. "This is the final design of Starship" comes to mind. As well as his launch timelines, 2 weeks becomes 2 months, 2 months become 2 years. I believe the entire Starship program is headed for disaster because of his "get there itis" attitude that has now become a shell of his lofty claims. What's he going to do next, strip it of the TPS to get it to fly for a photo op so he can continue patting himself on the back ? But it is, after all, his money and he can burn through it as fast as Starship is going to burn up in the atmosphere (if it ever gets high enough to deorbit). View Quote |
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Coyote with 40 people crammed into a minivan gets into a chase with DPS, Paco over estimates his driving abilities and *whmmo!* the Astrovan of Immigration becomes a Pinata of Pain, hurling broken bodies like so many tasty pieces of cheap candy...
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Originally Posted By Dagger41: I just don't buy in to Musks koolaid, the guy is full of broken promises. "This is the final design of Starship" comes to mind. As well as his launch timelines, 2 weeks becomes 2 months, 2 months become 2 years. I believe the entire Starship program is headed for disaster because of his "get there itis" attitude that has now become a shell of his lofty claims. What's he going to do next, strip it of the TPS to get it to fly for a photo op so he can continue patting himself on the back ? But it is, after all, his money and he can burn through it as fast as Starship is going to burn up in the atmosphere (if it ever gets high enough to deorbit). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dagger41: Originally Posted By RyanEsstac: Lol are you nuts? How many falcons did spaceX blow up before they started landing them reliably. So far starship has has 3-4 grain silos with flaps as test vehicles. 1 actually landed. 1 almost landed perfectly too. Pretty good for the infancy of a new engine, flight profile, and design. I just don't buy in to Musks koolaid, the guy is full of broken promises. "This is the final design of Starship" comes to mind. As well as his launch timelines, 2 weeks becomes 2 months, 2 months become 2 years. I believe the entire Starship program is headed for disaster because of his "get there itis" attitude that has now become a shell of his lofty claims. What's he going to do next, strip it of the TPS to get it to fly for a photo op so he can continue patting himself on the back ? But it is, after all, his money and he can burn through it as fast as Starship is going to burn up in the atmosphere (if it ever gets high enough to deorbit). Full blown Musk Derangement Syndrome. |
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Originally Posted By RyanEsstac: Lol are you nuts? How many falcons did spaceX blow up before they started landing them reliably. So far starship has has 3-4 grain silos with flaps as test vehicles. 1 actually landed. 1 almost landed perfectly too. Pretty good for the infancy of a new engine, flight profile, and design. View Quote yep, and the landing and reuse, doesn't cost them all that much mass. even without recovery, as a single-use vehicle, this combo would be cheaper than a single SLS engine, possibly a lot cheaper. for 1.5x the tonnage to LEO. SLS is 2 billion per.. Even if these cost 100 million each... which its probably far less... Spacex can probably build and launch 20 of these and put 30x times the mass in LEO for the cost of one SLS without landing a single one... |
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Originally Posted By AZ_Sky: Clean landing video on ASOG from rocket cam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-LJk-ZB55s View Quote I'm just thinking how amazing it is that we've gone from: 'You'll never be able to land a Rocket, C'mon...' to 'Holy shit we can land a Rocket!' to 'Holy shit we can land a rocket on a Barge!' to 'Holy Shit, look at the new barge they're landing rockets on!' ...All in about 6 years. |
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-9v1ReXoAQ1Wu5?format=jpg&name=orig
View Quote Beautiful, just beautiful. |
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"Is it still larping when you actually chop someone with a battle axe?" Tacocat
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1) Background info: Source
"A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch on the first dedicated mission with Starlink internet satellites from Vandenberg Space Force Base. This mission will deploy 51 Starlink satellites into a high-inclination orbit." 2) Launch window: 8:55 PM PDT (13 September 2021). 3) Launch Site: SLC-4E, Vandenberg Space Force Base, California 4) Webcast viewing options: a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 15 minutes before liftoff) b. You Tube Starlink Mission 5) Launch preparations: a. Boats heading out. Sentinel-2 captured SpaceX droneship Of Course I Still Love You @ 2021-09-10 18:45:17 UTC, as it was being tugged to the landing zone for the first Starlink mission from Vandenberg. (Source: Harry Stranger @Harry__Stranger) b. Ready for launch. 6) First stage return/disposal: Ocean recovery on OCISLY 7) Mission press kit: Now online here 8) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off 00:02:32 1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO) 00:02:35 1st and 2nd stages separate 00:02:43 2nd stage engine starts 00:02:59 Fairing deployment 00:06:46 1st stage entry burn starts 00:07:07 1st stage entry burn ends 00:08:46 1st stage landing 00:08:51 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO) 00:15:32 Starlink satellites deploy |
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-9v1ReXoAQ1Wu5?format=jpg&name=orig
View Quote How close can we get to the Fantastic 4 logo without being sued by Marvel/Disney? |
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Arthur Dent: ALLRIGHT, WHERE IS SHE?!?!?
Vogon Receptionist: Who, the director of robot arm repair? Xbox Live GT: DeltaPlaneMech PSN ID: DeltaAir423 MoS# 42 |
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1 hour to launch
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"What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch!"
~ W.C. Fields ~ "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free and live in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." ~ Thomas Jefferson ~ |
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View Quote nice forgot that was tonight. |
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GD is talented. If you are butt hurtable, someone will hurt your butt. . - 74novaman
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View Quote Got it up now also. |
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"What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch!"
~ W.C. Fields ~ "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free and live in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." ~ Thomas Jefferson ~ |
Webcast starting
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10 minutes.
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Is anyone in California going to watch it outside?
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Might just be the camera or camera mount but the second stage seems to have more vibrations than I remember.
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nailed it
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Never gets old. So cool
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Imagine Apollo if we could have reflow boosters 10 times.
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Why 51 Starlink sats? Are these the new, bigger ones?
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But he sure found out the hard way
That dreams don't always come true |
Nice.
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The world is full of nice people. If you cannot find one, try to be one!
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The launch timeline did say deployment around T+15 minutes.
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I knew this was scheduled for over a week.
I've been in Florida since May, and STILL haven't seen one go! |
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Floridaman/FluBro
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_N-bk5VEAYY8gS?format=jpg&name=orig View Quote Red, White, and Blue... |
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"What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch!"
~ W.C. Fields ~ "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free and live in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." ~ Thomas Jefferson ~ |
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