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This one goes way deeper the the previous News Nation video I posted if this is the correct one. It has 3 different episodes including the one with Elizabeth Vargas. ETA the big one is/was the announcement that some of these beings have the ability to affect our consciousness! I finally know now 100% why I keep being forced out of my seat or why suddenly without even really my control I’m being forced to suddenly look at a license plate, my mileage on my truck, my clock be it my truck radio, or phone, a post count, serial numbers, account numbers, or microwave or whatever and constantly seeing these repeating numbers. For whatever it is trying to tell me?? ![]() Everything We Know About the UFO Disclosure Push |
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Originally Posted By sq40: If accurate, and she IS credible, thats the biggest event yet, We are entitled photos and videos. Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
video If accurate, and she IS credible, thats the biggest event yet, We are entitled photos and videos. That is I’m sure what Corbell has on that drive and is going to release if the next drop being prepared doesn’t include. It’s time to spill the whole enchilada. Let the chips fall where they may. If we’re already traveling the universe, it’s time we know that as well. Mars was wiped out in a past cosmic alien war and our moon is an abandoned crippled ship that was towed here for life to survive on this planet? We need to know that! Stop with all the fucking secrets, let us decide what we can and cannot handle. Maybe we are no longer the dominant species on this planet and maybe we never have been. I’ve been sharing some of this stuff on FB trying to wake a few more up if possible since I don’t really care what I may seem like to most of them anyway. I don’t know if I’m reaching many but without a doubt a few are looking. |
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Has everyone seen the clip of the green fireball crashing behind the volcano in Mexico and the flying saucer coming back out of the side of the volcano right after? If not it’s in the Cosmic Road video I believe just prior to the one I posted above on the previous page. Incredible! And pretty damn clear! But who/what are these things invading this planet? And why? Correction it’s in the Philippines, very beginning of the video. ![]() David Grusch Press Conference Drops UFO Bombshells! |
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I think the biggest thing may be the fact they have known about quantum physics since the late 1800s/early 1900s, and kept it suppressed from the rest of the world. I want film of Truman or Eisenhower meeting the aliens on the tarmac which supposedly does exist! |
Is it happening? I can’t tell if true yet that these were just released?
Video 2 GIANT red orbs on video just release by The Pentagon 👽🛸 Incredible video in The White House UFO Files drop 3 👀 FBI-UAP-PR004, “Northeastern Orb Sighting,” 2025 In July 2025, at approximately 2100 local time in the northeastern United States, an eyewitness observed an intense bright light in their backyard as they parked their car upon returning home from work. The light was hovering approximately 25 feet off the ground, below a tree line near the center of their backyard, at an estimated distance of 90 feet. The eyewitness exited their vehicle briefly before retrieving their phone to record the event. The spouse of the eyewitness came outside to assess the situation. The spouse also witnessed the light, describing it as a “brilliant red sphere” about one meter in diameter. The center of the red sphere appeared to be a white plasma “sun” about the size of a basketball. The orb slowly rose and moved to the left, and both eyewitnesses observed a second, identical orb, hovering above the other orb. The eyewitness then began recording the event using an iPhone 14 Pro Max, capturing the footage depicted in this video. As the eyewitness began recording, the orbs moved westward together above a nearby tree line. The witnesses described the orbs’ motion as silent and smooth, and as moving in tandem as though they were flying in formation or tethered together. As the orbs moved out of sight, both eyewitnesses saw them appear to merge. The eyewitnesses estimated that the orbs moved from their initial position before disappearing from view at an estimated distance of 75 yards. This observation occurred within 25 miles of the “Triangle Orbs,” “Red Orb Rotation,” and “Orbs Over the Pond,” sightings at a location well known to them, which is sparsely populated. |
🚨 BREAKING - Newly released UFO documents in Release 03 detail a "potato-shaped" UAP witnessed by five U.S. Army Intelligence officers in Colorado Springs on a clear blue sky day in 2022. The object, described in FBI-UAP-D002 and D003 reports (FD-1057 Unresolved UAP), hovered or moved anomalously before the trained observers. The files were publicly dropped on June 12, 2026. This latest batch adds to the growing catalog of military-grade sightings that defy conventional aircraft explanations and continue to surface through official channels. -UAP Release 03 documents (June 12, 2026).Attached File Attached File |
— Department of War \uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDF8 (@DeptofWar) June 12, 2026 Department of War 🇺🇸 @DeptofWar · 2h Statement Attributable to Assistant to the Secretary of War for Public Affairs and Chief Pentagon Spokesman @SeanParnellASW: Today, the Department of War is publishing the third release of declassified and historical Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) files as part of the Presidential Unsealing and Reporting System for UAP Encounters (PURSUE). The collection continues to be housed on WAR.GOV/UFO, and the Department will release additional files on a rolling basis. As the unprecedented levels of interest in both this topic and the Trump administration's historic transparency effort continue, WAR.GOV/UFO has received over 1.7 billion hits worldwide since the site's launch on May 8, 2026. The Department of War and our agency partners are actively working on the next release of UAP files. |
WTF are these things?
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WTF??? Could this have been real? Hard to believe but we are living in a completely new timeline now.
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: WTF are these things?
One of the comments below the video says that it is labeled a rendering in the actual drop? |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: WTF??? Could this have been real? Hard to believe but we are living in a completely new timeline now.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/318573/IMG_8219_jpeg-3777538.JPG Where was it originally posted? |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
BREAKING - Newly released UFO documents in Release 03 detail a "potato-shaped" UAP witnessed by five U.S. Army Intelligence officers in Colorado Springs on a clear blue sky day in 2022. The object, described in FBI-UAP-D002 and D003 reports (FD-1057 Unresolved UAP), hovered or moved anomalously before the trained observers. The files were publicly dropped on June 12, 2026. This latest batch adds to the growing catalog of military-grade sightings that defy conventional aircraft explanations and continue to surface through official channels. -UAP Release 03 documents (June 12, 2026).https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/318573/IMG_8216_jpeg-3777483.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/318573/IMG_8217_jpeg-3777484.JPG |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: WTF??? Could this have been real? Hard to believe but we are living in a completely new timeline now.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/318573/IMG_8219_jpeg-3777538.JPG Highly likely not real, the photo is being described as Trump meeting with actors from some event, but I haven't been able to track down specifics. This is another one of those curious disinformation postings where no one seems to have provenance that has timing that coincides with real drops. |
![]() LISTEN: Pentagon Releases Interview Between Walter Cronkite, Astronaut Regarding UAPs |
![]() Third batch of Pentagon UFO files released: See all 6 videos |
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IMHO, this report is very revealing, as it shows the government deciding to keep UFO information under wraps. "...the panel identified a significant indirect threat stemming from the public’s fascination with the subject. The panel concluded that the high volume of reports, encouraged by a "sensationalist press," could overwhelm and clog vital intelligence and communication channels, potentially distracting from genuine threats. Furthermore, they warned that a “morbid national psychology” could be exploited by adversaries to incite “hysterical behavior and harmful distrust of duly constituted authority.” To mitigate these risks, the panel recommended an official policy of “debunking” to “strip the UFO subject of its mystery,” alongside a training initiative for military personnel to better recognize and filter out misidentified objects, thereby reducing communication “noise” and allowing the national security apparatus to focus on more "legitimate defense concerns" |
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Originally Posted By aswrg7: IMHO, this report is very revealing, as it shows the government deciding to keep UFO information under wraps. "...the panel identified a significant indirect threat stemming from the public’s fascination with the subject. The panel concluded that the high volume of reports, encouraged by a "sensationalist press," could overwhelm and clog vital intelligence and communication channels, potentially distracting from genuine threats. Furthermore, they warned that a “morbid national psychology” could be exploited by adversaries to incite “hysterical behavior and harmful distrust of duly constituted authority.” To mitigate these risks, the panel recommended an official policy of “debunking” to “strip the UFO subject of its mystery,” alongside a training initiative for military personnel to better recognize and filter out misidentified objects, thereby reducing communication “noise” and allowing the national security apparatus to focus on more "legitimate defense concerns" Who comes up with this shit? This so called “panel” needs to be dissolved in whatever means possible. They are the problem! |
| When it has come to these drops I personally have found the documents much more interesting and informative than the videos with the exception of the orange orb giving birth to 3-4 smaller red ones in this latest drop. Even if recreated. They have repeatedly admitted in these documents that Roswell did happen as well as quite a few others such as the 1952 DC incursion yet they get very little attention. I haven’t gone through the documents in this one other than one or two highlights in his FB feed. I didn’t spend much time looking at this latest drop yet due to all I had happening yesterday which wore me out. |
| And one thing is for sure in my mind now. If someone/something has the ability to mess with our consciousness and the way we think, see, and behave, then we truly are a type of computer program that is just way above my understanding. Or suddenly receive downloads like the guy that came up suddenly in seconds with the software for the SAR scanning technology. One second it wasn’t there. A few seconds later he had the entire software program written in his head as he stated. Maybe the cosmic computer game they’re playing is getting boring and they are ready to play a new and different game? |
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The files released so far, are crap. Especially when we hear there are 4K high-res that exist. Nothing that deniers can't pass off as fireflies, headlights, camera lens distortion, Sky Link, aircraft, etc. Maybe that's part of the disinformation plan. Or, is it boiling the frog? Big Don needs to live-up. |
Not sure how to find this particular audio they are referring to in this post? |
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Saved at 9:11, I can’t make this shit up! Anywho the document Groush was referring to. Attached File |
Declassified CIA Document: "One might say that the brain, even the entire human body is nothing more than a liquid crystal. "Liquid" in this case need not be understood literally, of course. The substance of such a crystal might be physically solid. Its crystal lattice is clearly very dynamic. The electrons in it can, under the influence of different fields, be easily shifted from their own levels, and auxiliary electromagnetic fields can arise. Experience gained in working with the problems of the energetics of the human organism and the presence in it of a biofield are evidence of the fact that the brain is capable of creating the effect of superconductivity or a space tunnel effect analogous to electromagnetic phenomena in radio engineering. Some individuals are able to control this process at will - to create a channel with an intense concentrated biofield in the space between themselves and the object which they wish to influence.” Humans are liquid crystals according to Russian rocket scientist Sergeyev. Read the rest here: cia.gov/readingroom/do… Attached File |
Torn where to put this but i think it may deserve to go here in its entirety. If not i can take it down
🔻 THEY RELEASED THE FILES TODAY. NOT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO. BECAUSE THEY WERE TOLD TO. 162 declassified UAP documents. Six new videos. Files dating back to 1947. The Pentagon uploaded them this morning. No press conference. No explanation. Just a quiet upload at 6 AM on a Friday. You know what else dropped today? A Spielberg film called DISCLOSURE DAY. About a government hiding alien contact for 80 years. Released the same day the government releases alien files. That is not a coincidence. That is a script. They are preparing you. David Grusch returned to Capitol Hill on June 9. He said the following in front of five members of Congress: THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT IS AWARE OF SEVERAL KINDS OF NON-HUMAN INTELLIGENCE. Not one. SEVERAL. He confirmed crash retrieval programs. Biological evidence. Billions spent annually on programs hidden from Congress. Foreign governments corroborating independently. Then he asked for one thing: permanent immunity. So the others can finally talk. A former intelligence liaison — DIA-adjacent, 2019-2024: "The controlled release schedule is not about public readiness. It is about legal exposure. There are individuals — still living — who authorized the elimination of civilian witnesses between 1952 and 1989. The files cannot be released in full without implicating them. The batches are structured to build awareness while a parallel legal process determines who gets charged and who receives immunity. This is not disclosure. This is a prosecution timeline disguised as transparency." NOT DISCLOSURE. A PROSECUTION TIMELINE. The 1971 Australian intelligence assessment — referenced by Grusch himself — confirms the CIA ran debunking operations against its own scientists who verified non-human origin. Page 7 through 16. Declassified. They lied to their own people for 54 years. Trump ordered the release. The same president whose uncle — Dr. John G. Trump — reviewed Tesla's seized papers in 1943. Papers about frequency. About communication with intelligence outside this dimension. Three generations. One family. One secret. One decision to end the silence. The files are out. The whistleblowers are talking. The immunity is coming. The movie is in theaters right now — telling you the truth disguised as fiction. CODE: UAP-162 / GRUSCH-0609 / NHI-MULTI / BIO-EVIDENCE / DIA-BILLIONS / PROSECUTION-TIMELINE / TESLA-1943 / TRUMP-ORDERED / SPIELBERG-0612 ⟁ They hid it for 80 years. They killed to keep it hidden. And now they are being forced to show you — because the man in the Oval Office said enough. |
Chris Cuomo pretty much makes his own case here that Groush is telling the 100% real truth.
Video I think @ChrisCuomo sounds unhinged here. Why? Because he is directly and correctly processing what David Grusch is saying. No matter what the resolution is, if you process this correctly, you will sound unstable and unhinged. There is no safe explanation left on the table. ETA I posted this to my FB page. You might want to also! Attached File |
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Is Groush about to disclose more? Holy fuck what James Fox states on video!! He even says Trump has seen these videos and audios! [tweet]https://x.com/uapjames/status/2065806011693232298[/ James Fox says David Grusch will soon publicly address ‘jaw-dropping’ UFO evidence he personally saw that left members of Congress speechless “Mr. Grusch yesterday publicly said there have been several dozen cases involving the Govt examining what he called non-human biologics. He was exposed to U.S.-held audio/visual info on recovered vehicles and associated biologic materials.” Fox’s impression is that Grusch saw this evidence “during his official investigations just within the last few years.” “I think it had an extremely profound impact on his life.” |
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If David Grusch discloses anything more than he already has it will be because the US government has given the ok for him to do so. And what he has stated publicly so far has been approved by the US government. Without approval he would be breaking non-disclosure agreements he has signed punishable under The Espionage Act. Same goes for any other whistleblower that has spoken publicly. That’s my take on all that I’ve heard or read. Aside from James Lacatski I believe he is the only non-intelligence official that has come forward with direct contact knowledge with a craft. Until congress passes a bill giving protection to ALL whistleblowers we’ll just keep hearing from those that haven’t actually worked on UAP craft. I don’t think an Executive Order is going to cut it. Legally. Not when the next administration can just undo the EO. At this point I’d like to hear from technicians, engineers and scientists that worked on UAP’s. Just hearing from the intelligence community leaves me skeptical on motives for disclosure. |
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Originally Posted By HighlanderI: If David Grusch discloses anything more than he already has it will be because the US government has given the ok for him to do so. And what he has stated publicly so far has been approved by the US government. Without approval he would be breaking non-disclosure agreements he has signed punishable under The Espionage Act. Same goes for any other whistleblower that has spoken publicly. That’s my take on all that I’ve heard or read. Aside from James Lacatski I believe he is the only non-intelligence official that has come forward with direct contact knowledge with a craft. Until congress passes a bill giving protection to ALL whistleblowers we’ll just keep hearing from those that haven’t actually worked on UAP craft. I don’t think an Executive Order is going to cut it. Legally. Not when the next administration can just undo the EO. At this point I’d like to hear from technicians, engineers and scientists that worked on UAP’s. Just hearing from the intelligence community leaves me skeptical on motives for disclosure. It has been stated that Dillon Borlan has first hank knowledge of both retrieval and reverse engineering also, not just as a first hand witness of the Triangle he saw. They haven’t gone any further than that. That has come from Corbell on several occasions. |
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Originally Posted By tawaggs: I don’t know what everyone else thinks, but it seems to me that at this rate we will get to “we have alien bodies” in approximately 450 years. Wake me up when we get there… Brazil just released that they had downed alien bodies and craft in the 90s (Varghina) and that the US came and took everything when Brazil asked for advice on how to proceed. Yet, all that's been released in the past 3 years, and many people are saying in their comfy little programming that Roswell was a Hoax, crop circles are all hoaxes, it's all just advanced US aerospace craft that we designed from scratch ourselves. The potency of the programming is mind boggling for how effective it is, holding the decided opinion that aliens and UFOs aren't real. This seems to be something between Hard/Catastrophic and soft disclosure. Like the gov said they'd go on with "regular disclosure" but not catastrophic. They're like Iran saying "yeah, we'll do that", then launching more missiles at everybody, the US just publishes the minimum in many cases and then there's the people that have been pushing (Grusch et al) and they add the missing context to this released stuff and it tends to grow pushing this closer to catastrophic disclosure rather than soft disclosure. From what people said, the timing, and the keystone kops and the whole cluster fuck around this where they're debunking what they reported last week makes me pretty confident that this is huge, and it's going to have a direct impact on us citizens soon, so trying to keep us in ignorant bliss won' work because if this' not the government educating citizens, others will do it and it's not all happy things. |
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What would you say is the best evidence ever revealed that extraterrestrial life has visited earth? I think we need to start with the most convincing events and build from there. There is nothing that I have seen in the latest release that can’t be explained as being man made. The “orb” sightings have occurred at sunset, when airplanes and helicopters can reflect the bright orange sun and appear to glow. And the footage is still so blurry and pixelated. I’m waiting for that “there it is!” moment, that we can grab on to. But I haven’t seen it yet. So, what is our best evidence? Originally Posted By brass: Brazil just released that they had downed alien bodies and craft in the 90s (Varghina) and that the US came and took everything when Brazil asked for advice on how to proceed. Yet, all that's been released in the past 3 years, and many people are saying in their comfy little programming that Roswell was a Hoax, crop circles are all hoaxes, it's all just advanced US aerospace craft that we designed from scratch ourselves. The potency of the programming is mind boggling for how effective it is, holding the decided opinion that aliens and UFOs aren't real. This seems to be something between Hard/Catastrophic and soft disclosure. Like the gov said they'd go on with "regular disclosure" but not catastrophic. They're like Iran saying "yeah, we'll do that", then launching more missiles at everybody, the US just publishes the minimum in many cases and then there's the people that have been pushing (Grusch et al) and they add the missing context to this released stuff and it tends to grow pushing this closer to catastrophic disclosure rather than soft disclosure. From what people said, the timing, and the keystone kops and the whole cluster fuck around this where they're debunking what they reported last week makes me pretty confident that this is huge, and it's going to have a direct impact on us citizens soon, so trying to keep us in ignorant bliss won' work because if this' not the government educating citizens, others will do it and it's not all happy things. |
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Originally Posted By goloud: What would you say is the best evidence ever revealed that extraterrestrial life has visited earth? I think we need to start with the most convincing events and build from there. There is nothing that I have seen in the latest release that can't be explained as being man made. The "orb" sightings have occurred at sunset, when airplanes and helicopters can reflect the bright orange sun and appear to glow. And the footage is still so blurry and pixelated. I'm waiting for that "there it is!" moment, that we can grab on to. But I haven't seen it yet. So, what is our best evidence? Originally Posted By goloud: What would you say is the best evidence ever revealed that extraterrestrial life has visited earth? I think we need to start with the most convincing events and build from there. There is nothing that I have seen in the latest release that can't be explained as being man made. The "orb" sightings have occurred at sunset, when airplanes and helicopters can reflect the bright orange sun and appear to glow. And the footage is still so blurry and pixelated. I'm waiting for that "there it is!" moment, that we can grab on to. But I haven't seen it yet. So, what is our best evidence? Originally Posted By brass: Brazil just released that they had downed alien bodies and craft in the 90s (Varghina) and that the US came and took everything when Brazil asked for advice on how to proceed. Yet, all that's been released in the past 3 years, and many people are saying in their comfy little programming that Roswell was a Hoax, crop circles are all hoaxes, it's all just advanced US aerospace craft that we designed from scratch ourselves. The potency of the programming is mind boggling for how effective it is, holding the decided opinion that aliens and UFOs aren't real. This seems to be something between Hard/Catastrophic and soft disclosure. Like the gov said they'd go on with "regular disclosure" but not catastrophic. They're like Iran saying "yeah, we'll do that", then launching more missiles at everybody, the US just publishes the minimum in many cases and then there's the people that have been pushing (Grusch et al) and they add the missing context to this released stuff and it tends to grow pushing this closer to catastrophic disclosure rather than soft disclosure. From what people said, the timing, and the keystone kops and the whole cluster fuck around this where they're debunking what they reported last week makes me pretty confident that this is huge, and it's going to have a direct impact on us citizens soon, so trying to keep us in ignorant bliss won' work because if this' not the government educating citizens, others will do it and it's not all happy things. Do I default to "extraterrestrial life has visited Earth"? No, but it is the only explanation within a traditional materialistic framework that fits the phenomenon. I think there's a whole category of strangeness that lies outside our ability to understand and explain but it's real and it's been a part of the human experience since the beginning. |
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Originally Posted By tawaggs: I don’t know what everyone else thinks, but it seems to me that at this rate we will get to “we have alien bodies” in approximately 450 years. Wake me up when we get there… It's all more bullshit. Not saying the phenomenon is BS but the release is. Nothing will ever actually be unclassed. |
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Originally Posted By mancow: It's all more bullshit. Not saying the phenomenon is BS but the release is. Nothing will ever actually be unclassed. I think they are giving breadcrumbs when most people are hoping for a warm out of the oven loaf of bread. Whether they are ready for a loaf versus crumbs or even a slice is up for debate. |
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I fully agree. It’s part of the reason why we need to take a skeptical approach to these releases. Each blurry video, pixelated image, and vague report undermines the whole idea of real disclosure. I trust our member’s accounts of their personal experiences more than what I have seen disclosed in the last two months. The story of the guy hunting in Colorado in the car with the bright lights behind him comes to mind. If there is something, we wont learn about it through declassified documents or videos. It will be through an earth shattering revelation. Not literally, hopefully. Originally Posted By Cypher214: The best evidence is having your own experience. Until that happens, any pictures, videos, or testimony can be dismissed because you haven't seen something with your own eyes. Once you've seen something, you know 100% that there's a "there" there and it's no longer "is this shit even real?" Do I default to "extraterrestrial life has visited Earth"? No, but it is the only explanation within a traditional materialistic framework that fits the phenomenon. I think there's a whole category of strangeness that lies outside our ability to understand and explain but it's real and it's been a part of the human experience since the beginning. |
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I wonder where in the Northeast the orb sightings were filmed? The video seems awfully similar to what the four canoe campers say they encountered on the Allagash in Maine in 1976. I was part of a Christmas bird count a few years ago and I came across a guy with binos scanning the sky. I thought he was part of the count but he told me he was looking for UFOs. He said he was retired Air Force and that he lived on the lake- I think it was Swain’s Lake in Barrington- and that he and several neighbors witnessed a craft descend and hover over the lake when it was frozen. He said it hovered over two people crossing the frozen lake on cross country skis. He did not give off kook vibes and in my opinion he was sincere. |
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First I've heard of this. US officials closer to cracking UFO mystery after locating site of recurring glowing orbs WASHINGTON — US officials have found a location in the Northeast where unexplained glowing orbs frequently appear in the night sky, bringing experts closer to solving a longstanding UFO mystery. The site’s existence, reported to the FBI and confirmed by agents, is being disclosed Friday as part of a third tranche of UFO files released pursuant to President Trump’s February declassification order. The location is not identified in documents, but it is described as being on a secluded pond. Two glowing red orbs visible through dark trees against a twilight sky. 4 A possible breakthrough has emerged, according to US officials, as to why mysterious orbs keep appearing across the Northeast. Obtained by the NY Post The sightings began in 2021 and have continued at irregular intervals, but the information released Friday is significant because the resident who reported the sightings to the FBI in October 2024 is considered credible and recorded footage on his cellphone of the orbs — including them appearing to replicate. The pinpointing of a location where orbs are frequently seen could be a break-through because the objects are similar to descriptions supplied by witnesses from other areas with one-off reports that do not allow for the deployment of scientific equipment that could more deeply analyze the phenomena. much more |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: When it has come to these drops I personally have found the documents much more interesting and informative than the videos with the exception of the orange orb giving birth to 3-4 smaller red ones in this latest drop. Even if recreated. They have repeatedly admitted in these documents that Roswell did happen as well as quite a few others such as the 1952 DC incursion yet they get very little attention. I haven’t gone through the documents in this one other than one or two highlights in his FB feed. I didn’t spend much time looking at this latest drop yet due to all I had happening yesterday which wore me out. People only care about videos, preferably under 30 seconds unless totally fascinating, then they'll tolerate a whole minute. |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: WTF??? Could this have been real? Hard to believe but we are living in a completely new timeline now.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/318573/IMG_8219_jpeg-3777538.JPG Looks loke Trump meeting the Wraith. Yes, I know it's not GD. But that's what it looks like! |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: The best evidence is having your own experience. Until that happens, any pictures, videos, or testimony can be dismissed because you haven't seen something with your own eyes. Once you've seen something, you know 100% that there's a "there" there and it's no longer "is this shit even real?" Do I default to "extraterrestrial life has visited Earth"? No, but it is the only explanation within a traditional materialistic framework that fits the phenomenon. I think there's a whole category of strangeness that lies outside our ability to understand and explain but it's real and it's been a part of the human experience since the beginning. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By goloud: What would you say is the best evidence ever revealed that extraterrestrial life has visited earth? I think we need to start with the most convincing events and build from there. There is nothing that I have seen in the latest release that can't be explained as being man made. The "orb" sightings have occurred at sunset, when airplanes and helicopters can reflect the bright orange sun and appear to glow. And the footage is still so blurry and pixelated. I'm waiting for that "there it is!" moment, that we can grab on to. But I haven't seen it yet. So, what is our best evidence? Originally Posted By brass: Brazil just released that they had downed alien bodies and craft in the 90s (Varghina) and that the US came and took everything when Brazil asked for advice on how to proceed. Yet, all that's been released in the past 3 years, and many people are saying in their comfy little programming that Roswell was a Hoax, crop circles are all hoaxes, it's all just advanced US aerospace craft that we designed from scratch ourselves. The potency of the programming is mind boggling for how effective it is, holding the decided opinion that aliens and UFOs aren't real. This seems to be something between Hard/Catastrophic and soft disclosure. Like the gov said they'd go on with "regular disclosure" but not catastrophic. They're like Iran saying "yeah, we'll do that", then launching more missiles at everybody, the US just publishes the minimum in many cases and then there's the people that have been pushing (Grusch et al) and they add the missing context to this released stuff and it tends to grow pushing this closer to catastrophic disclosure rather than soft disclosure. From what people said, the timing, and the keystone kops and the whole cluster fuck around this where they're debunking what they reported last week makes me pretty confident that this is huge, and it's going to have a direct impact on us citizens soon, so trying to keep us in ignorant bliss won' work because if this' not the government educating citizens, others will do it and it's not all happy things. Do I default to "extraterrestrial life has visited Earth"? No, but it is the only explanation within a traditional materialistic framework that fits the phenomenon. I think there's a whole category of strangeness that lies outside our ability to understand and explain but it's real and it's been a part of the human experience since the beginning. It's not so much even seeing it. Doesn't matter if it's 16k IMAX. It's the feeling, the peace, the learning, the confusion on what just happened and wondering if it was real, the wondering if it was connected with that object you saw or not, and thinking that if you told anybody they'd call you insane. Saying you saw a bright light in a field follow along with you and then shoot up super fast is something you say you saw and it was pretty strange. When you get into the feeling or mental / ESP (?) aspect, that's where you realize wall the other experiencers have been afraid to come forward because they'd be thrown in the loony bin due to the stigma. Seeing a light, yep, that's fine, and I didn't feel nothing. Thanks, nothing else to se here, bye. Exception is pilots in both buses and fighter jets where the objects lock onto the plane, like literally if they stuck a 10 ft rod onto the fighter canopy next to the pilot then onto their orb it just stays there no matter what the plane does, until it leaves the area, then it just vanishes. This stuff being released is making some of the coast to coast callers seem pretty straight laced boring people. |
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Originally Posted By NotIssued: Looks loke Trump meeting the Wraith. Yes, I know it's not GD. But that's what it looks like! Huh. Except for the clothes, I would have said the Targaryens. |
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Video At link regarding various vehicles **Breaking** David Grusch: "I have seen photos of UFO Crash Retrievals" 👽🛸 "This is the most earth shattering thing that changed my world view" "They were everything from flying discs to egg shape craft & every other morphology" "They landed or crashed on the surface of the earth" UFO Disclosure just escalated to a new level. |
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Originally Posted By brass:
Video At link regarding various vehicles **Breaking** David Grusch: "I have seen photos of UFO Crash Retrievals" 👽🛸 "This is the most earth shattering thing that changed my world view" "They were everything from flying discs to egg shape craft & every other morphology" "They landed or crashed on the surface of the earth" UFO Disclosure just escalated to a new level. Nothing has escalated and we are at the same argument from authority level we have been at for decades. Having former military and/or former intelligence saying all this stuff without providing evidence is not in any way, shape, or form new or escalated. If the pictures come out, then we've got something. They better not be artists renderings, or bad photocopies, etc. |
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Originally Posted By Herc: If the pictures come out, then we've got something. They better not be artists renderings, or bad photocopies, etc. Well, the problem with that is AI. Long-dead are the days when all AI could produce were blurry seven-fingered hands and smeared nipples and eyeballs. The photos and video the various models make today are indistinguishable from reality to the casual observer, or almost any human, especially if they spend a while cleaning up mistakes with additional prompts. It takes other AI or sophisticated computer programs to pick out the fakes, and those methods are being rendered obsolete as fast as they're created. And what you're seeing is three generations behind what's in their labs. We're entering a new phase of reality, where nothing you don't witness with your own eyes can be trusted. Every video or photo can be manipulated, or created from scratch, by someone with an agenda to push. Which makes me think two things off the top of my head. One, this is the very reason they're pushing "disclosure" right now. If everything is fake, or can be claimed to be so, then none of it will matter. A real photo could be released, someone will shout "it's bullshit, my computer found these mistakes!" (whether that's accurate or not, or just that person pushing an agenda), then the original party disputes that, etc. etc. etc., ad nauseum. It's the perfect intersection of circumstances to render it all meaningless. Two, if the only thing you can trust is something you witness yourself, get ready to start seeing what they want you to see. I don't think Project Blue Beam is anything but a conspiracy theory, but smaller-scale things like that, false-flag operations, and the like could become very real. |
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: Well, the problem with that is AI. Long-dead are the days when all AI could produce were blurry seven-fingered hands and smeared nipples and eyeballs. The photos and video the various models make today are indistinguishable from reality to the casual observer, or almost any human, especially if they spend a while cleaning up mistakes with additional prompts. It takes other AI or sophisticated computer programs to pick out the fakes, and those methods are being rendered obsolete as fast as they're created. And what you're seeing is three generations behind what's in their labs. We're entering a new phase of reality, where nothing you don't witness with your own eyes can be trusted. Every video or photo can be manipulated, or created from scratch, by someone with an agenda to push. Which makes me think two things off the top of my head. One, this is the very reason they're pushing "disclosure" right now. If everything is fake, or can be claimed to be so, then none of it will matter. A real photo could be released, someone will shout "it's bullshit, my computer found these mistakes!" (whether that's accurate or not, or just that person pushing an agenda), then the original party disputes that, etc. etc. etc., ad nauseum. It's the perfect intersection of circumstances to render it all meaningless. Two, if the only thing you can trust is something you witness yourself, get ready to start seeing what they want you to see. I don't think Project Blue Beam is anything but a conspiracy theory, but smaller-scale things like that, false-flag operations, and the like could become very real. AI and possible mind control are going to be a huge problem moving forward. But I’m just along for the ride so whatever happens happens. Not much I can do about it regardless. |
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Originally Posted By NotIssued: Looks loke Trump meeting the Wraith. Yes, I know it's not GD. But that's what it looks like! Originally Posted By NotIssued: Originally Posted By tnriverluver: WTF??? Could this have been real? Hard to believe but we are living in a completely new timeline now.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/318573/IMG_8219_jpeg-3777538.JPG Looks loke Trump meeting the Wraith. Yes, I know it's not GD. But that's what it looks like! Who is the Wraith? Looks like he met with some faction of the LGBT possibly? |
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I'm hearing some strange stuff, not a huge amount of room for a happy outcome. There's a bunch of talk about being a far/prison to replenish blood like to fix a bunch of leukemia type problem they can't fix with technology. or This is a simulation or These are god and indistinguishable from the miracles of the big G God. So now it's onto nail biting for several people. After thinking on the above, what are the happy outcome options of something with aliens and UFOs are real? Would the riot control be part of hwy they're floating these concepts so people don't suddenly freak out when it settles more toward specific options in the cloud? I'm now seeing a mech between the various programs created in the past 30 years to point toward depopulation, maybe 8 billion is our limit and they've come to "fix" Earth? Will they tell us how the pyramids were put together if it was them? |
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By lil_Sig: Who is the Wraith? Looks like he met with some faction of the LGBT possibly? Originally Posted By lil_Sig: Originally Posted By NotIssued: Originally Posted By tnriverluver: WTF??? Could this have been real? Hard to believe but we are living in a completely new timeline now.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/318573/IMG_8219_jpeg-3777538.JPG Looks loke Trump meeting the Wraith. Yes, I know it's not GD. But that's what it looks like! Who is the Wraith? Looks like he met with some faction of the LGBT possibly? The Wraith are an alien species from the Stargate Atlantis TV show. |



