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That story was magically generated about the same time that it would have become painfully clear to the Oathkeepers that Epps flipped on them. I think the whole thing was a tall tale generated by the same people that were arrested for seditious conspiracy based upon the Signal chats that someone gave to the feds. That someone is more than likely Ray Epps, who would have been one of the first people the FBI came after because he was on video instigating people. It also explains why he went from one of their "most wanted" to not being on their list. He simply gave them what they wanted and made a deal because they had him sunk.

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Not all Feds knew who he was.

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I think my explanation fits the facts better than any alternative. We will know for sure, because if he was, the Oathkeeper leadership that was arrested and charged with the most serious crimes relating to January 6th will argue in court that they were infiltrated by a fed.  If they don't make that argument, we will know that they concocted the whole story as a preemptive public relations effort.  The fact that they haven't made that argument in any court filings since they were snagged over 5 months ago is telling.  I suspect that if it goes to trial, Ray Epps will be testifying in the part of the prosecution as a witness who made a deal for immunity.

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I think my explanation fits the facts better than any alternative. We will know for sure, because if he was, the Oathkeeper leadership that was arrested and charged with the most serious crimes relating to January 6th will argue in court that they were infiltrated by a fed.  If they don't make that argument, we will know that they concocted the whole story as a preemptive public relations effort.  The fact that they haven't made that argument in any court filings since they were snagged over 5 months ago is telling.  I suspect that if it goes to trial, Ray Epps will be testifying in the part of the prosecution as a witness who made a deal for immunity.

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Like I said, let's see what the defense argues. That will tell the story. Someone gave the FBI all of the Signl messages.  The Oathkeepers already had those. If Epps was organizing anything, the Oathkeepers will make that argument. I suspect he wasn't, though. He was just in the receiving end. As far as the FBI knowing who everyone is, they obviously don't.  If they did, they wouldn't have released hundreds of pictures asking the public to identify various people that were there. I believe the Oathkeepers were smart enough to tell their people not to bring their cellphones, which is how most people were caught quickly.

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Might be hard for the defense to argue what they know to be true, if evidence is being withheld.

We should also factor in, he may not have been working in an official capacity for the Feds or alone.

How can you know it's all signal messages? Sounds like they got what someone wanted them to see.

Knowing who random protesters who got caught up in the trap are, is entirely different than knowing who someone connected to the Oath Keepers inner circle is.

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Because the Signal group they were in had all of the Oathkeeper leadership in it that is being prosecuted. If that group of leadership has other messages outside of that group planning message that shows that Epps was doing something other than receiving instructions, that evidence would be in the possession of the Oathkeepers and they could introduce it or make it public, but they haven't. You have to remember that because of the nature of the case (essentially prosecuting the Oathkeepers for what they planned), all of the relevant evidence of those plans are fully known by the people being prosecuted. They also know exactly what Epps said and did, because for it to be relevant, it would have had to involved the people being prosecuted.  Like I said, I will get that if it goes to trial, Epps will be the star witness doe the prosecution as an observer who reduced instructions from leadership.

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How do you know they have access to their own communications?

Will the defense even be allowed to make that argument in court?

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The defense will be able to make whatever arguments that they want in pre-trial motions, and we will get to read it all. The result of those motions will dictate whatever gets introduced at trial. They can also make whatever arguments they want to make to the public. Being 5 months in and not making any noise about things like entrapment isn't a good sign, because a good defense would already be saying that publicly if that's what occurred. The fact that they have been silent tells a story all on its own.

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“I listen to your podcast and I follow @julie_kellyz. It’s every bit as bad as she describes. I am a husband and father who has zero criminal history…. And I am looking at years in prison AFTER I took a plea.



“You may ask why would people take a plea if they are innocent? Innocent has nothing to do with this as my lawyer has told over and over again. This is payback. There are only a handful of representatives in DC that care about us. The vast majority couldn’t care less.



“They secretly despise Trump and anyone on the 6th as well. The DOJ knows this. There will be no reform of this government. There will be no going back. All there is now is the path ahead. But that path will never lead back to the country we once were.



“I watched for 4 years as our government that I pay taxes for, try to impeach and even oust our president with sheer impunity. Hillary’s smearing stunt morphed into a coup that lasted Trumps entire term. Then I watched the election get stolen from the American people.



“So I went to DC to support the way I thought best. I wasn’t violent, I didn’t break anything, I didn’t steal anything and that doesn’t matter. I lost my 6 figure income, friends, and my family is a wreck. I had the FBI in my home, I was brought before a judge in shackles.



“And I am a lucky one. I got to remain free till sentencing.”



“We are no longer free. And this country WAS taken without firing a single shot. Guns are meaningless at this point. It was the First Amendment that people should have been fighting for the most.”



“I am now barely making a living doing manual labor for just over minimum wage until my sentencing is over. I was threatened with 20 years in prison, something only murderers face. We couldn’t change the venue and none of the motions to dismiss were accepted.”



“So, at the pleading of my wife, the extreme bias of DC and it’s “jury pool of my peers” and advice from my lawyer, I destroyed a part of me and signed a paper full of exaggerations, lies and more importantly a narrative that fits what they want.”



“I am a Christian and somehow I feel damned. I lied to save my family. My pastor tells me about rehab but it doesn’t help. I don’t look at myself in the mirror anymore. A part of me is dead now. I now wake up longing for the Lord to take me.”



“January 6th was a dark day. There was violence by some, that’s reprehensible. No one should have broken anything or stolen anything or hurt anyone. Having said that, January 6th should be remembered as the last outburst from people who were sick of the coups against Trump.”



“The lies about Russia gate, the double standard of the Bidens and how they obtained their wealth compared to the treatment of Trump, the double standard of BLM rioters and everyone else.”



“The forced LGBTQ pumped into our children minds at school while trying to shut out God at every corner, the endless wars, the celebrations of abortions, the government spending that has put children not even born into life long debt, the list goes on.”



“This was the last cry out for the death of a nation. I don’t know what’s going to happen to my family while I’m gone for years. My wife has depended on me our whole marriage. She is the only woman I have ever been with, the only woman I have ever loved.”



“I hope she and my kids can make it without me. I am a J6er and I am going to prison.”